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Revised thinking!

We have done a lot more research over the last week and thought long and hard about what we want from the experience.
What do you think of this.....?

1/11 Arrive Delhi am. Check in and sightseeing.
2/11 Delhi sightseeing.
3/11 Train to Amritsar. Check in and Wagah evening ceremony.
4/11 Golden Palace.
5/11 5am train to Delhi. Relax and shopping.
6/11 Fly to Kathmandu. Check in and Durbar Square - KTM.
7/11 Bhaktapur
8/11 Patan
9/11 Flight around Everest am? Return to Delhi.
10/11 Train to Agra. Check in. Pm and evening at the Taj.
11/11 Taj and Fort.Return to Delhi.
12/11 Delhi to Jaisalmer. Arr 23.30.
13/11 s/seeing
14/11 s/seeing. Desert trip.
15/11 s/seeing. Pm - 5hr train to Jodhpur
16/11 Jodhpur s/seeing.
17/11 Train to Jaipur.
18/11 Elefantastic
19/11 Jaipur and overnight train to Udaipur..
20/11 Check in. Sightseeing Lake!
21/11 Visit Ranakpur and Kumbhalgarh.
22/11 Udaipur s/seeing. Overnight train to Mumbai
23/11 Fly to Goa.
24 to 28 on the beach.
29/11 Fly back to Mumbai.
30/11 Return to UK.
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What a wonderful month. Think the wolfytoms have the energy of twenty year olds.
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Still too much, even with the week in Goa?

We want to see so much and I'm struggling to know what to cut.

I thought the flight to Kathmandu would ease a lot of pressure caused by getting to and travelling round the hill stations? And wow, those Durber Squares look fantastic!

Perhaps I drop Jaipur but my wife is really keen to get to elefantastic.

What about if we have fixed dates for flights to Nepal and Goa and leave everything else to fate?! Then the trains will be booked up !
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I'd hate to do all that in 6 months let alone a month...
As you're landing in Delhi, I'd chill out there for the month.
If you can't handle it or get bored after 2 weeks, book a flight to Goa for the remaining 2 weeks.

Go back & do the rest when you have more time...
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Originally Posted by ironman View Post I'd hate to do all that in 6 months let alone a month...
As you're landing in Delhi, I'd chill out there for the month.
If you can't handle it or get bored after 2 weeks, book a flight to Goa for the remaining 2 weeks.

Go back & do the rest when you have more time...
So none of the Rajasthani cities?
Just Delhi?
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Originally Posted by wolfytom View Post So none of the Rajasthani cities?
Just Delhi?
No, I'd love to do Rajasthani cities, just take my time doing them.
I'd happily chill out in any city for a month people watching & getting to know the culture if I had the time.
Just a personal opinion.
If it's your first time, there's so much to take in that a day or 2 will never do it justice.
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What about
Week 1 - Udaipur and locality
Week 2 - Jodhpur and Jaipur
Week 3 - Jaisalmer
Week 4 - Delhi and Agra

I feel more relaxed just looking at it !!

Problems -
Wife wants to see the Himalayas and the Golden Temple!
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Looks a bit more relaxed...
Wherever you go, you'll experience touts. After a few days, the touts get to recognize your face & you saying no, so are a lot easier to deal with & a lot more easy to bargain with when you finally say yes.
The longer you spend in one place the cheaper it gets & the more you see.
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Thanks very much Ironman, that seems really useful advice.
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Originally Posted by wolfytom View Post Thanks very much Ironman, that seems really useful advice.
Just my experience, everyone takes it differently.
If you can sit it out, it's usually worth it.
My next trip is to Vietnam as I can't get in & out of India twice during Irish 6 month tourist visa & need to be in Switzerland for Easter. So hopefully, 3 months in Vietnam, week in Switzerland & 6 months in India.
Can't wait & presume I'll still see a lot less of India than I want due to people watching & falling in love with where ever I land...
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Andy

I think that you could still fit Amritsar in. It's certainly worth the effort. For what it is worth I would look at something like.

3 days in Delhi to get into the swing of India, get over the flights etc
Morning Shatabdi to Amritsar. 2 days there then overnight train to Agra.
1 night (max) in Agra visiting Taj, Fort and Fatephur Sikri. Taj is closed on Fridays
Train to Jaipur - 2 nights there
Train to Udaipur - 3 nights there
Drive to Jodhpur - 3 nights there including an overnight desert experience
Train to Jaisalmer - few days there. I haven't been yet so not sure how many.
Train back to Delhi then either Shimla if you want a hill station or Goa if you want the beach.

I think that is perfectly workable for pace - we did similar on our first trip when we were nearer 60 than 50 (Still are for that matter) For us the trick is to have a 3 night stay every now and again which allows you to take a lazy day without feeling that you are losing out.

For me booking trains in advance is the way to do it as many do get fully booked. The c ost of cancelling is pretty low if a different plan presents itself while you are on the road.
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Think about this slight modification of Dave W's plan:

After Agra
Train to Udaipur
Then Jodhpur, Jaisalmer, Jaipur
Fly from Jaipur to Goa
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Not sure if anyone has mentioned the 'no return within 2 months' when departing India, that could mean problems for Nepal.

Not sure if there is a way around it.

DO you want to end on the perfect beach, even if it could be a little pricey? (1000 for 6 days including all transport to/from)

It would be an awesome surprise for your partner, can you keep a surprise or are they viewing this thread?
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I'd appreciate the details Stephen...

Of course, she's worth it!!! And I love your idea of a big finish to the holiday as a surprise!

She's not reading this thread.
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Originally Posted by wolfytom View Post We have done a lot more research over the last week and thought long and hard about what we want from the experience.
What do you think of this.....?

1/11 Arrive Delhi am. Check in and sightseeing.
2/11 Delhi sightseeing.
3/11 Train to Amritsar. Check in and Wagah evening ceremony.
4/11 Golden Palace.
5/11 5am train to Delhi. Relax and shopping.
6/11 Fly to Kathmandu. Check in and Durbar Square - KTM.
7/11 Bhaktapur
8/11 Patan
9/11 Flight around Everest am? Return to Delhi.
10/11 Train to Agra. Check in. Pm and evening at the Taj.
11/11 Taj and Fort.Return to Delhi.
12/11 Delhi to Jaisalmer. Arr 23.30.
13/11 s/seeing
14/11 s/seeing. Desert trip.
15/11 s/seeing. Pm - 5hr train to Jodhpur
16/11 Jodhpur s/seeing.
17/11 Train to Jaipur.
18/11 Elefantastic
19/11 Jaipur and overnight train to Udaipur..
20/11 Check in. Sightseeing Lake!
21/11 Visit Ranakpur and Kumbhalgarh.
22/11 Udaipur s/seeing. Overnight train to Mumbai
23/11 Fly to Goa.
24 to 28 on the beach.
29/11 Fly back to Mumbai.
30/11 Return to UK.
Why no Varanasi?

This is a hard thread to reply to, so many permutations.

Because of the 'no return within 2 months' rule (no idea if this still applies), you may be best to go first to Nepal, then fly to either Varanasi or Delhi, then Agra, then around Rajasthan (Udaipur first), then at the end of the Rajasthan sector get a train from Jaipur to Amritsar, then back to Delhi to fly to either Goa or Port Blair in the Andamans, then treat your partner to this place.

You can get flights back from Port Blair to either Mumbai or Delhi (stopping once along the way, hunt for the flights where you stay on the same plane) and return home from there.

www.ixigo.com is good for looking for flights in India, let me know if you find it complex (it is), I've got a bit of experience with various connecting flights, so may be able to help.

It could very easily be argued that better overall value for money could be had in Goa (when compared to the total cost of getting to/from and staying at Havelock in the Andamans), but what price do you pay for the perfect place, for that little twinkle in your partners eyes?

I've not yet been to Havelock, hopefully going in February, but I have experienced a white sand/clear sea destination, and words just can't describe it, and the trip adviser reviews of barefoot havelock sound awesome.

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