Lahaul-Spiti or Ladakh?

#1 May 22nd, 2005, 13:57
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Hey,
I'm a new member and would have posted on other threads like 'introduce yourself' , but i'm kinda pressed for time.
Me and a friend intend to make a week long trip in and around lahaul-spiti valley, or leh-ladakh.
I would have checked other threads to see if this topic has been asked about, but as i mentioned i am pressed for time.
I would be highly grateful if you guys could possibly help me out by suggesting what routes to take, how to go about it, and give any other pointers necessary.

Thanks a lot.
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Welcome on board

The All about Ladakh thread is a good starting point.
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Hi

Hi,
I presume that you are looking at doing an exploration kinda trip ... I would suggest .. starting Shimla onto Sangla ... Hike to Sangla Kanda ...Chitkul .. Kamru Fort ... Upto Kalpa ... from there on to Nako and further to Tabo Monastery ... From tabo to Kaza and making that as base walking the Lingti Valley (Langza - Demul - Lallaung - Kungri - Dhankar) ... do visit Gete and Kibber and The Kye Monastery ... on towards Losar .. Hiking to Chandratal ... Though the Kunzum is not open yet ... get back to Kaza and back to Shimla ... or trod on to Manali ... however the best option would be to do the four-five day hike over the Tarikhango Pass(Bhabha) pass from The Greenery of Kinnar at Kafnu to the vast cold desert of Spiti at MUDH .... A great Hike for the variety of Landscape ... and possibly the best way to Discover .. Spiti ... once at Mudh do the Lingti valley trail ... if pressed for time do the road trip from Shimla to Spiti .. making places as bases and discovering around ....

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Thank you vistet and dhananjay for your replies.
Dhananjay, i shall take what you have written into consideration and probably come up with queries in a day or two. Thanks again.
Also, i would like to know the feasibility, rather possibility of taking to the road, by buses i presume looking at our pockets, from srinagar to leh (one of the prescribed routes to leh)..staying at leh for a cupla days, exploring the region, and then heading off down , taking the manali route on the way back.
I would really appreciate it if you guys could possible tell me about the problems im gonna face if we decide to do this.
Also, is it possible to do lahaul-spiti on the way back? It seemed close to the route back.(the manali route).
We are not quite pressed for time , and can extend the trip as long as we want. We are however, a bit low on finances and hence shall plan to eat cheap, stay cheap, basically trying to make this trip as cheap as possible, barring the transport which shall, im assuming, consume the majority of our finances.
This shall be a once-in-a-lifetime kind of trip and hence i shall be very grateful for all kinda of opinions and suggestions.

Thanks again.
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Hi,

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Very tricky indeed ... though the best possible option is to start from Shimla .. however with the passes not open right now it seems like sometime would be lost before they do ... However presuming Kunzum is open by 10th June then a great road trip awaits you .... Start shimla ... board a bus to Sarahan approx 150 kms (Rs 110 aaprox) Stay at Temple guest house ... a Day at Sarahan and you move to Sangla .. Board a bus to Karchamm and from there take a shared jeep (Rs 200 approx) ... Since you are not hard pressed for time Sangla has a lot to offer ... Hike to Sangla Kanda .... Or do the three day Shibaling pass hike ... Walk along the baspa river to Chitkul, Rakcham .... In all you could spend a week in Sangla valley ... Stay at Batseri .. a G.H should cost around 350 Rs ... From Sangla to Kalpa ... One of the best views in the Himalayas ... visit Chini .. Roghi village and Cliffs .. Day hike to Kalpa Kanda ... Resist visiting The nearby villages of Pangi and Ribba ... they make some of the best Angoori (Local Drink made of Kinnauri Grapes) ... In all a four day stay at Kalpa ... From Kalpa journey to Nako ... This part is upper Kinnaur and culturally this is the place ... Monasteries dot all the villages on the route ... One of the better detours is towards the Ropa Valley ... It is one of the least visited villages in Kinnaur under the shadow of the Mighty Manerang .... Stay at Giabong and Explore Hango, Leo villages ... From Kalpa a 5 hour ride should bring you to Ropa valley diversion from where you may hire a shared Jeep ... There are only two guest houses at Giabong .... But worth it for the sheer pleasure of great Mountains ... two days here ... On towards Nako ... The village by the lake is one of the good sights in upper Kinnaur ... Hike to Tashigang Monastery halfway to Namgia village ... A very famous levitating Lama meditaed here in the late eighties ... A great place ... Nako has beautiful views of the Reo Purgyal Massif .... From Nako to Chango -- Mane Village and finally tabo Monastery (Stay atMonastery approx 200Rs and Transport by Bus/shared Jeep 150 Rs) .... Two days at Tabo ... Choose to hike the Lingti Valley ... or Use shared Jeeps along the way to Visit Dhankar Monastery ... before you reach Kaza ... also recommended would be a detour to Pin Valley visiting Lallung Monastery and The Monastery at Kungri ... From Tabo to Kaza three days ... When at Kaza explore Kye Monastery where His Dalai Lama will retire ... Kibber ( formerly the highest village in the world !!) Gete Village (which holds the much controversial status now) .. langza ... Komik .. Demul .. All this should take two days .... and is done by shared jeeps ... so it is already 15 days by this time and Kunzum is definitely open ... spend a day at Losar to organise a hike to Chandratal lake ... On to Chattru where you can stay at the Transit camps 100 a night ... from Chattru to Keylong ... you might have to change buses at Khokhsar ... Keylong can easily permit 4-5 days ... with a trip to Udaipur, Tandi, Gondla, and the monasteries of whom I am forgetting the name right now ... From keylong to Sarchu .. at one of the Camps there ... or may be a direct bus/shared hjeep to Leh ... Discover Ladakh at your own pace ... minimum 15 days ... and from there to Srinagar ....

Hope this helps...

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Dhananjay
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Thanks a lot dhananjay. This seems brilliant. I shall plan around the route you suggest and post my queries shall i come up with some.

Thanks again.
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Map

Hi, I have given a map..... not very detailed but enough to give u an idea.

its small due to restriction of size in this forum...... better if u resample it by some software to a bigger size (Recomended Irfanview available on net)

Njoy
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Thanks babu.
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ya, keep in touch and I will also give u a big big thanks when u post the travellogue and pics.

bon voyage..
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#10 Jun 11th, 2005, 21:28
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Well, i don't know for how long, but the kunzum has not opened yet, much to our dismay. Although we still probably plan to leave in a week, we are very concerned as to the curren position. Shall neone be able to provide any info on the same, i shall be very grateful.

We are not doing leh, but returning back via rohtang (starting from shimla, all the way to manali, as suggested by dhananjay) . At least that was what the plan was. I shall pose a few more queries hoping to get some help, fast, cos as mentioned i leave in about a week.

1) How easy is it to get camping gear on the way, say if we want to camp at chandrataal , if we reach there of course (kunzum is not open yet), do we get camping gear around the place?
2) Accomodation i hear is not a big problem as there are lots of guest houses..
3) I am kinda concerned as to how much to pack. Any help on this account will be greatly appreciated. This is approx. a 3 week long thing.
4) Any other suggestions, on route, places to see , etc are most welcome.

Thanks a lot guys.
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Hi

Hi,
The Kunzum Pass opened briefly on Saturday and closed after a while because of snow ... however expect it to open anytime now in the next ten days .. Rohtang is already open ..... Very difficult to get camping gear on the way however if you intend to do Chandratal Lake Ramesh in Kaza is a good source ..... Dont pack much (At least Thats what I do) ... focus more on medicine, essentials (sun screen) good hiking boots, Fleece, Dungrees, and great reflectors, Binoculars are an essential ... I am sure youre gonna have a great time ...

Cheers,
Dhananjay
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chandertal

Hi

I'll suggest you do the round trip; Kunzum-chandertal-batal. Kunzum chandertal offers such beautiful panorama. Batal Chandertal leg is less rewarding in comparison. There is a guy named Piar Singh who runs a small shop in a tent at Chandertal. Pitching tents is not a problem. Lot of space. Even if you don't want to, Piar Singh would happily agree to let you spend a night. He can cook for you, provide tea, noodles, eggs... He is there from Mid June to september end.
Batal too has a dhaba; Chandertal Dhaba. Night shelter, food available.

One problem however: Piar Singh's availability can be confirmed from Batal not from Kunzum.

All the best.

Lucky
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Thanks dhananjay, I sure hope the pass opens by the time we hit it.
Lucky, How arduous is this chadertal trek? And im not too keen on pitching tents, so i like the piar singh option, provided he is there.Thanks.
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chandertal

From Kunzum to Chandertal to Batal is all a song. downhill all the way. Pretty straightforward, regulation trek. Carry sunscreen and wide brimmed hat.

Lucky
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chandertal

Hi Incentic

Though the route from Kunzum to Chandertal is easy, there is one diversion around midway which is confusing. I am assuming you are travelling without guides. If that is so ,I think if you take Batal Chandertal Batal route, all the problems can be overcome. You will know whether Piar Singh is at Chandertal. The route is also better marked. About 5 hrs walk. It will be slightly uphill from Batal 3600M to 4000M.

ciao

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