Itinerary advice for Mussoorie, Gomukh, Jamuntri, etc

#1 May 21st, 2017, 21:48
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Hello,

We will be in Mussoorie from 1st to 9th of June. My wife is an US national and I am an Indian citizen resident in the US.

We arrive in New Delhi from the US on the night of 31st May 9:30 pm. Our plan is to either take a flight in the morning of June 1 or the Shatabdi Express which arrives in Dehradun in the early afternoon. Then we go to Mussoorie.

I have to vist Mussoorie for family reasons: that is the main reason we are going.

We would like to use this opportunity to visit Yamunotri and Gangotri (also Gomukh) and perhaps things around (Har ki dun, etc?) also if possible and convenient.

We are both in our mid-to-late 40s and perfectly okay with roughing it out as needed, or in spending money if that is the best option. We only care for safety and health.

Any suggestions for an itnerary and/or recommended guides, etc would be very deeply appreciated. Of course, it is possible that we can not do all that much in the days that we have.

My trips to South India and Ladakh were based off IMers advices and they weny very well, thanks!
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If you're planning on the Shatabdi, book immediately.

Best is to hire a car at Mussoorie for the round trip.

You don't need a guide for Gangotri and Yamunotri. Not for Gaumukh either, you can take along a porter though. You will need to apply for permits in advance from the Forest Dept, for yourselves and the porter (your wife will have to pay the foreigners rate ).

If you go to Gaumukh, I suggest to drop HKD as it'll all be too hectic.
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Originally Posted by Dilliwala View Post If you're planning on the Shatabdi, book immediately.

Best is to hire a car at Mussoorie for the round trip.

You don't need a guide for Gangotri and Yamunotri. Not for Gaumukh either, you can take along a porter though. You will need to apply for permits in advance from the Forest Dept, for yourselves and the porter (your wife will have to pay the foreigners rate ).

If you go to Gaumukh, I suggest to drop HKD as it'll all be too hectic.
Thanks! Where do we get these permits from?

Yes, we are trying to get train tickets given the obstacle course that is now the IRCTC, we don't know when we will get to it actually. Thanks again for the reminder!

Also, what sort of route will be appropriate?
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You have to contact the Divisional Forest Officer, Uttarkashi. Other times of year one can just drop in at the office, or even get the permit at Gangotri on the spot, but there is a daily limit of 150 persons (including porters etc.) and during the high season it's best to book in advance if one's dates are known. Contacts are here. They might ask you to send a fax.

Thr district administration has also introduced an online application system. Thing is in doing it that way one has to mandatorily engage a tour operator. More info here:

http://www.indiamike.com/india/uttar...t17-t258659/2/
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So, I was finally able to get WL 6/7 tickets on the Shatabdi for DDN from NDLS on 1st June. I hope that it will clear and that we will get seats at least in the same compartment.

So, what route do you recommend? Mussoorie to Gangotri and then from there to Yamunotri? We are happy to hike, but of course, safety is important.
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Gangotri doesnt involve any hiking. Gaumukh requires hiking with a night halt. You need to stay at Bhojwasa for one night. It's not that easy and requires a bit more than average fitness {indian standard}. Haven been to yamunotri so cant comment on that.
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Originally Posted by aarem View Post So, what route do you recommend? Mussoorie to Gangotri and then from there to Yamunotri? We are happy to hike, but of course, safety is important.
Yes, that would work.

You would perforce have to hike to Yamunotri. Cemented path though. Unless you take horses.
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Originally Posted by Dilliwala View Post Yes, that would work.

You would perforce have to hike to Yamunotri. Cemented path though. Unless you take horses.
Thanks! So, we take a car to gangotri. And then hike up to bhojbasa and from there to gomukh. Then do we come back to gangotri and from there hike to yamunotri? If we were to rent a car, how would this work? Could you please give me a rought sketch of number of days involved, etc? Thanks!
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Originally Posted by RahulDeva View Post Gangotri doesnt involve any hiking. Gaumukh requires hiking with a night halt. You need to stay at Bhojwasa for one night. It's not that easy and requires a bit more than average fitness {indian standard}. Haven been to yamunotri so cant comment on that.
Thank you. I think we should be able to handle that. So, we leave our car behind at Gangotri and then hike up with an overnight at Bhojbasa? How long is this hike?
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Originally Posted by aarem View Post Thanks! So, we take a car to gangotri. And then hike up to bhojbasa and from there to gomukh. Then do we come back to gangotri and from there hike to yamunotri? If we were to rent a car, how would this work? Could you please give me a rought sketch of number of days involved, etc? Thanks!
Er no, you don't hike from Gangotri to Yamunotri, that would be a long walk requiring many days . I presumed you knew the lay of the land - you drive from Gangotri to Jankichatti, stay the night, then next morning you walk 5 km to Yamunotri and back. Then push to get to Mussoorie by evening - it can be done, but it's also entirely possible that you get caught in a horrendous traffic jam between Kempty Falls and Muss and reach only late night. The leisurely option would be to stay another night at Jankichatti. After lunch take a short stroll to Kharsali village across the river and generally laze about, then leave next morning for Muss.

The car stays with you for the entire trip, Muss to Muss. The driver waits wherever he has to wait. You will be paying daily charges for the car (subject to a daily limit of 200 km), and additionally driver's overnight charges (around Rs. 250/night). Plus toll taxes if any (don't recall any payable on this beat).

Depending on how hectic you want it, you're looking at 4 to 6 nights on the road.

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Originally Posted by aarem View Post So, we leave our car behind at Gangotri and then hike up with an overnight at Bhojbasa? How long is this hike?
It's 18 km, Gangotri to Gaumukh.
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Originally Posted by Dilliwala View Post Er no, you don't hike from Gangotri to Yamunotri, that would be a long walk requiring many days . I presumed you knew the lay of the land - you drive from Gangotri to Jankichatti, stay the night, then next morning you walk 5 km to Yamunotri and back. Then push to get to Mussoorie by evening - it can be done, but it's also entirely possible that you get caught in a horrendous traffic jam between Kempty Falls and Muss and reach only late night. The leisurely option would be to stay another night at Jankichatti. After lunch take a short stroll to Kharsali village across the river and generally laze about, then leave next morning for Muss.

The car stays with you for the entire trip, Muss to Muss. The driver waits wherever he has to wait. You will be paying daily charges for the car (subject to a daily limit of 200 km), and additionally driver's overnight charges (around Rs. 250/night). Plus toll taxes if any (don't recall any payable on this beat).

Depending on how hectic you want it, you're looking at 4 to 6 nights on the road.


It's 18 km, Gangotri to Gaumukh.
Thanks! So, from gangotri, we go to bhojbasa, stay the night, go to Gomukh, come back all the way down?

And which is more recommended HKD or Tapovan? I am just looking at possibilities. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by aarem View Post So, from gangotri, we go to bhojbasa, stay the night, go to Gomukh, come back all the way down?
Some people return all the way to Gangotri on the 2nd day. Some do Bhojwasa-Gaumukh-Bhojwasa. You have to figure out your own pace.

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And which is more recommended HKD or Tapovan? I am just looking at possibilities.
What's your trekking experience and fitness level? Tapovan will require additional days and a guide. I don't recommend this for a novice (disclaimer: I haven't been north of Gangotri).
HKD can be managed with a porter. You need 3 or 4 days starting from Taluka.

Again, depending on the days you have available, I suggest sticking to one trek.
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This is not a stroll in the park. You have to take into account acute mountain sickness (AMS), because if it hits anyone in your group, be prepared to change your plans on the hop.

AMS does not respect overall fitness-levels. It affects some people and not others. I went with three girls and two of them got hit by AMS en route to Bhojbasa (nausea, fatigue and severe headaches). I (a smoker) and the third girl were fine trekking.

The two refused to turn back or allow all of us to turn back, on account of consideration for us. We had hired two mules and their drivers for our bags. Initially, the girls refused to mount the mules in consideration of the mules! By the time we got to Bhojbasa in the evening, we had to contend with the freezing night temperatures. The next morning, despite my counsel, they insisted on going on to Gaumukh and Tapovan, but relented and agreed to go on mule-back. At Gaumukh, I put my foot down about going on, and we abandoned plans for Tapovan (which is a good 500m higher) and returned forthwith to Gangotri, where our car was parked.

En route from Gangotri to Bhojbasa, we encountered a couple of processions carrying bodies back as we trudged on. Luckily we got away with it, but, in retrospect, we should have turned back at the first sign of AMS.

Read a rough itinerary here:

http://www.trailhikers.in/gangotri-gaumukh-tapovan-trek

Have a wonderful trek!
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Originally Posted by ViShVa View Post This is not a stroll in the park. You have to take into account acute mountain sickness (AMS), because if it hits anyone in your group, be prepared to change your plans on the hop.

AMS does not respect overall fitness-levels. It affects some people and not others. I went with three girls and two of them got hit by AMS en route to Bhojbasa (nausea, fatigue and severe headaches). I (a smoker) and the third girl were fine trekking.

The two refused to turn back or allow all of us to turn back, on account of consideration for us. We had hired two mules and their drivers for our bags. Initially, the girls refused to mount the mules in consideration of the mules! By the time we got to Bhojbasa in the evening, we had to contend with the freezing night temperatures. The next morning, despite my counsel, they insisted on going on to Gaumukh and Tapovan, but relented and agreed to go on mule-back. At Gaumukh, I put my foot down about going on, and we abandoned plans for Tapovan (which is a good 500m higher) and returned forthwith to Gangotri, where our car was parked.

En route from Gangotri to Bhojbasa, we encountered a couple of processions carrying bodies back as we trudged on. Luckily we got away with it, but, in retrospect, we should have turned back at the first sign of AMS.

Read a rough itinerary here:

http://www.trailhikers.in/gangotri-gaumukh-tapovan-trek

Have a wonderful trek!
Thank you for this. AMS is a major worry indeed, and you are right that acclimatization is important. We will take our AMS medicine whose name I forget now. (I think it is acetazolamide or something -- I think it is also available in India uner some name that I do not recall). Then see how things go. Hopefully we will make it to Gomukh.
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For better acclimatization visit Yamunotri first and spend a night.

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