Full moon - Varanasi or Bodhgaya; Jan. 2008

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First time India/Asia traveler can be either in Varanasi or Bodhgaya on January 22, 2008 when full moon should take place at about 19:00. Will have already been in Varanasi for a couple of days and can stay another one, or move over to Bodhgaya. Any opinions on which setting might be the "most interesting" to be at for full moon? I don't know whether there are any special ceremonies or rituals for full moon in either place and am unfamiliar with what significance full moon might have for a more Hindu city or a more Buddhist city.
Bodhgaya will be last stop before flying out of Calcutta.
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Off topic - account closed info.?

I'm new here and love the forums. Slightly disappointed that my thread has only gotten one response without really any information. I notice that "Bodhgaya_mike" 's account is closed. Was this voluntary, or?

I looked at a few other of the posts from "Bodhgaya_mike" some of which seem helpful to me, but now I wonder if the account was closed involuntarily whether I should be ever more skeptical of any info. that was shared.

I find that gradually I get to know the various posters and form an opinion of whether our style and tastes in travel are similar and whether I will pursue the advice or comments that make. Anyway, any thoughts/info. that people have about "closed accounts" is welcome, but naturally would prefer comments on my original question.

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Originally Posted by Edor View Post First time India/Asia traveler can be either in Varanasi or Bodhgaya on January 22, 2008 when full moon should take place at about 19:00. Will have already been in Varanasi for a couple of days and can stay another one, or move over to Bodhgaya. Any opinions on which setting might be the "most interesting" to be at for full moon? I don't know whether there are any special ceremonies or rituals for full moon in either place and am unfamiliar with what significance full moon might have for a more Hindu city or a more Buddhist city.
Bodhgaya will be last stop before flying out of Calcutta.
Thanks, Edward
Full moon for Buddhists:
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/ptf/d.../uposatha.html

For Hindus full moon (=Purnima) days are often associated with some kind of festival. I do not know of any on the one in January 2008 in Varanasi. Generally brahmins chant their gayatri more strictly on such days, standing knee-deep in the Ganga or any other river.

In Varanasi there is a somewhat artificial Ganga-puja ceremony happening, but each day at sunset, staged for the tourists. I think it is an imitation of the one that's happening in Rishikesh, in a bit less artificial way. It was not there in Varanasi ten years ago. It is more circus-like, nothing original or even slightly devotional. Apart from that I do not think you get any special Hindu rituals at that place. So I think it is preferable for your son to go to Bodhgaya.

But he should not miss to have gone to Sarnath, which is about 10km from Varanasi, before. As a Buddhist place Sarnath (where the Buddha gave the first discourse to his friends on the path) is far more serene and meditative than is Bodhgaya. Bodhgaya is very touristy, and hardly any meditation is happening there. Tibetan Buddhists have the strongest presence in Bodhgaya, and for whatever reason they do not seem to meditate much... But even Theravadas in Bodhgaya hardly meditate, at least there is no opportunity to join any. The only ones to join morning and evening I found were the Zen people at the Japanese temple.

I would expect at Bodhgaya to be a special ceremony around the Mahabodhi temple in the evening, probably with candles lit on the pathway for circumambulation around the shrine. It depends on the people visiting that day and what they offer.

If your son actually should arrive on that full-moon day, it might be more difficult for him to get a room right away. As it is the observance day for lay Buddhists, it is seen as more meritorious to give offerings on that day, which would make Bodhgaya a specially crowded place that day, I'd assume. Not very good news for your son, this last bit, I am afraid...

In case he would not find any room at all, I would try the following:

The International Meditation Center of Venerable Dr. Rastrapal Mahathera. He is an elderly Theravada monk who built a huge retreat place which is mostly unused, empty, as far as I have seen.
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I've seen twelve full moon rises

in Varanasi. In June of last year I filmed a full moonrise from Asi Ghat, at the southern end of the city. It was amazing. Rising over the trees on the east side of the river it climbed through a drifting tatter of low clouds then rose brilliantly, reflecting on the Ganga as it did. While the Ganga-puja in Varanasi may be a less than ancient rite, there is something to being in Varanasi, surrounded by chants and bells, full moon rising.
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I agree with dharmabum. it is for "tourists" but almost all the tourists are Indian. Rishikesh aarti is very charming though.

Am all atwitter. Returning to Varanasi, Kashi, the City of Light, Center of the Universe, on October 31.

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Atala and Dharmabum ... thanks for your comments. My son who will be visiting India for the first time on this trip is an art major and does a lot of photography and video work. So it is a nice coincidence (divinely planned) that Dharmabum talks of a full moon video from Asi Ghat. He will probably choose to be in BodhGaya at full moon, but the day before in Varanassi the moon will be somewhat higher in the sky at sunset so will also be very wonderful lighting at that time. Perhaps he will choose to just meditate at those times and record things with the inner eye and sense of the energy.

Atala, thanks for your specific comments and observations:
"Bodhgaya is very touristy, and hardly any meditation is happening there. Tibetan Buddhists have the strongest presence in Bodhgaya, and for whatever reason they do not seem to meditate much... But even Theravadas in Bodhgaya hardly meditate, at least there is no opportunity to join any. The only ones to join morning and evening I found were the Zen people at the Japanese temple."
It is unfortunate that so many who go on spiritual pilgrimage miss out on the special energy that is in a place but is often only accessed during meditation.

Again thanks to both of you, Edward
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Any day, Every day, is the right day to be in Kashi.

You may be interested in the wonderful photography book,Benares: Seen from Within by Richard Lannoy. Large format with over 600 wonderful b/w photos of the City of Light. he also wrote a smaller format book with less photos, Benares, a World Within A World.

Diana Eck's Banaras: City of Light is indespensible.

All are available in Varanasi or online from abroad.

Happy Trails
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btw, Varanasi,Kashi, Benares, Benaras are all the same place
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Originally Posted by Edor View Post I looked at a few other of the posts from "Bodhgaya_mike" some of which seem helpful to me, but now I wonder if the account was closed involuntarily whether I should be ever more skeptical of any info. that was shared.
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Moderator note: Sorry for not noticing this earlier.

Bodhgaya_mike's account was closed by the moderators, and after a warning.

I do not think it is appropriate for me to go into details about this.

People are banned for breaking forum rules. Sometimes a warning is given (unless the member is advertising), as it was given here.

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Kashi . . . Banares . . . Banaras . . . Varanasi . . .

let's not forget Anandavana - The Forest of Bliss, another name for a place that can't have too many names . . . it's that rich . . .

Interesting film too, called The Forest of Bliss. A great film to get hold of, if you can find it. I got mine through Amazon. It came with a book about the making of Forest of Bliss, called "Making Forest of Bliss: Intention, Circumstance, and Chance in Nonfiction Film". The book is the conversation between the maker of the film, Robert Gardner and his colleague at Harvard, Akos Ostor. A great dialogue regarding filmmaking.
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Cool

Thanks Darma, i'll find it if it is to be found.
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Darma, your are The Man!
The New York Public Library (Shiva bless em) has a celluoid copy in their Reserve section. Will try to book a viewing for next week...Many thanks for the tip.
I notice the filmed opened in NYC in '86--- the same month that I moved there. coincidence or......
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I am new to the forum and am not sure of proper etiquette here, but as the OP it seems to me that some of the posts have strayed from the topic and might be better handled by PM or another thread. I do appreciate all of the posts that have been made that address the topic.
Thanks, Edward
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i suggest to visit first Bodhgaya

where from 10th-19th of January the Nyingma Monlam is held {it is a great gathering of the oldest school of the Tibetan Buddhism, many rinpoches will be there, thousands of people, and ceremonies are taking place day and evening-i'll be there too the last 5 days of the Monlam.These are prayers for peace and there are meditation sessions all around}check some pictures from Kagyu Monlam which is taking place about a month earlier: http://www.kagyumonlam.org/ http://www.simhas.org/monlamnews.html

and after the monlam let him travel to Varanasi or Sarnath if he likes for the full moon.

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