4 weeks through India, does it works?

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Hello everybody,

I have a question about the route i've made for 4 weeks in India.
The first week i'm going to be in Delhi for volunteering, so I hope in that week I can go see Delhi.

Day 1: Going to Agra and seeing the Agra fort
Day 2: Mathura and Vrindavan
Day 3: Taj Mahal, Park, Baby Taj and a tomb
Day 4: Fatehpur Sikri
Day 5: Akbar Mausoleum, Mosque and the market
Day 6: Gwalior and traveling to Jaipur
Day 7: Jantar Mantar, City Palace, Hawa Mahal, Birla Temple and Ganesh Temple
Day 8: Amber Palace and at night a elephant trek
Day 9: Traveling to Sawai Madhopur
Day 10: Safari and the Ranthambhore fort, traveling to Kota
Day 11: City Palace, fort, gardens en boat ride and then traveling to Bundi
Day 12: Bundi Palace, Chitrasala and the Step wells
Day 13: Traveling to Chittaurgarh and the fort there
Day 14: Traveling to Pushkar
Day 15: Pushkar in the morning and then traveling to Udaipur
Day 16: City Palace, boat ride, Temple and Haveli`s
Day 17: Traveling to Mt. Abu en Nakki lake
Day 18: Delaware Temples and traveling to Jodphur
Day 19: Mehrangarh fort, Jaswant Thada and traveling to Jaisalmer
Day 20: Jaisalmer fort, Haveli`s and traveling to Bikaner
Day 21: Camel safari (1 night)
Day 22: Junagarh fort, old city and Deshnoke and at night traveling to Delhi
Day 23: Traveling by plane to Varanasi
Day 24: Spending time in Varanasi
Day 25: Traveling by plane back to Delhi and from there traveling to Amritsar
Day 26: Golden Temple, city and the border from India and Pakistan. At night traveling back to Delhi.
Day 27: Last day in Delhi
Day 28: Back home.

My question is: is this going to work? I've have already looked at the trains and planes and that works in this itinerary.
And does anybody know how late you depart for a came lsafari in Bikaner and how late you are back the next morning?

All tips and trics are welcome!! If this is oke then i can go and book my train and plane tickets.

Does anybody know how it works with the tickets you get from Cleartrip? I mean the tickets you have booked in advance you can print them out but how does it works when you have to make a change and need another ticket? Is there a way that the hotel can print them out for you or do you have to go to a internetcafe for example? I know a bit of a stupid question, but I really like to know.

Thanks already for everybody who wants to help!! Thank you so much!
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4 days for Agra is too much. Agra can be easily done in 2 days at leisure.

Day 6 does not look right. Gwalior and Jaipur are in opposite directions from Agra. Skip Gwalior.

Delhi - Mathura / Vrindavan - Agra - Bikaner - Jaisalmer - Jodhpur - Udaipur - Chittaurgarh - Bundi - Pushkar - Jaipur - Varanasi - Amritsar - Delhi seems to a good route according to me.
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Thanks Aarosh for you're advise! Day 6 I have writen it wrong. It's going to be a day trip from Agra, then back to Agra and from Agra to Jaipur....do you still recommed to skip Gwalior?

And i'm going to look at the days in Agra, thank you very much!

Do you have any other tips?
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Originally Posted by Veuvje View Post It's going to be a day trip from Agra, then back to Agra and from Agra to Jaipur....do you still recommed to skip Gwalior?

And i'm going to look at the days in Agra, thank you very much!

Do you have any other tips?
If it is a day trip, then including Gwalior is okay. It would be a longish day. Traveling would be around 6 hours both ways.

Will you be traveling alone? If no then hire a car for travel between Jodhpur and Udaipur which will enable you to see Ranakpur (Jain temple) / Kumbhalgarh (fort) or both on the way. This also will be a longish day.

While in Jodhpur, if possible, do a day trip to Osiyan (Jain temples).

You could also consider a day trip to Khichan from Bikaner / Jaisalmer - Jodhpur.
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Originally Posted by Veuvje View Post Thanks Aarosh for you're advise! Day 6 I have writen it wrong. It's going to be a day trip from Agra, then back to Agra and from Agra to Jaipur....do you still recommed to skip Gwalior?

And i'm going to look at the days in Agra, thank you very much!

Do you have any other tips?
It is possible to make a day trip from Agra to Gwalior. But I should think you'd be looking at something like five hours' travel time round trip, so would have very little time on the ground. Assuming you're travelling by car-and-driver or taxi, you could be driven directly to the fort, which in itself is worth a couple of hours. But you'd probably have to give up on the other wonders of Gwalior. I think you'd be better putting Gwalior off for another trip.

I agree with aarosh's itinerary suggestions, except for Varanasi and Amritsar tacked on at the end. I think you're taking on an awful lot in two weeks as it is, and you may be stretching your limits. Even if you can keep up the pace, one day for Varanasi is far too little, and it's too little for Amritsar too. I'd choose one or the other.

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Originally Posted by aarosh View Post ...You could also consider a day trip to Khichan from Bikaner / Jaisalmer - Jodhpur.
You might want to check out vaibhav's trip report for Khichan:

vaibhav and the cranes

We are at this moment trying to sort out scheduling for precisely this spot. After a lot of research we're coming to the conclusion that it's worth perhaps a morning. But most of the action appears to be at what amounts to a giant bird feeder, so it's not really the birds-in-the-wild event we were hoping for.
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What's the story here? I wrote two posts but they ended up combined into one. distaff tells me that, on XYM, two posts close together are automatically combined into one. Is that what's happened here? How are we ever to catch up to Nick's post count this way?
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Cranes - we were there in February this year. The afternoon visit was a washout with just a single crane putting in an appearance. Apparently this happens quite often. You need to be in Khichan for sunrise and be prepared to stay all morning. We had to catch a train and missed some of the show.

Trains - if you need to change bookings on a schedule like the one that you propose you will be in trouble. However printing is not a problem if you have a mobile device that you can display your ticket on when needed.
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distaff tells me that, on XYM, two posts close together are automatically combined into one.
Yes that is what happened, a slight difference being that it was not automatically combined into one. A moderator might have did it.

Again a case of distaff being correct.
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Originally Posted by Veuvje View Post My question is: is this going to work? I've have already looked at the trains and planes and that works in this itinerary.
I think you want to cover to many places and will be exhausted halfway your trip. I should skip some stops in Rajasthan so you have some more time for the trips to Varanasi and Amritsar.

Another thing, when are you traveling. In December / January fog can cause a lot of delay in the Northern India.
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Originally Posted by Veuvje View Post Does anybody know how it works with the tickets you get from Cleartrip? I mean the tickets you have booked in advance you can print them out but how does it works when you have to make a change and need another ticket? Is there a way that the hotel can print them out for you or do you have to go to a internetcafe for example? I know a bit of a stupid question, but I really like to know.
Train tickets you can cancel against the costs of a small fee. Internetcafe's are everywhere.
Cancelling flight tickets is rather costly.
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Originally Posted by aarosh View Post Yes that is what happened, a slight difference being that it was not automatically combined into one. A moderator might have did it.

Again a case of distaff being correct.
How is distaff correct when she thought it had been done automatically, whereas I thought initially that it was done by some interfering mod?
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Originally Posted by hfot2 View Post How is distaff correct when she thought it had been done automatically, whereas I thought initially that it was done by some interfering mod?
I replied on the thoughts that I saw on the post. Should have been more specific that distaff is 5% correct. If you had written your thought you would have been 100% correct.
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Originally Posted by aarosh View Post I replied on the thoughts that I saw on the post. Should have been more specific that distaff is 5% correct. If you had written your thought you would have been 100% correct.
Ah, that's how life ought always to be (but ever so rarely is).
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comments about the itinerary

Its a good itinerary and youre covering some of the top destinations in the North - here are my comments
Agra is a bit of a tourist trap and a pretty dirty city even for Indian standards- there is nothing there except the 3-4 GORGEOUS monuments that make it a must see - but otherwise I would limit my time in Agra to two days max. I would not shop in Agra.
You would rather spend more time in Jaipur which has a lot more substance
The Chittorgarh, pushkar udaipur routing is a bit complex - you are doing more than 200kms drives which in india can be anywhere from 4-7 hours. Ideally you pair Chittorgarh and Udaipur together or Jaipur and Pushkar together.
Looks like youve figured that you can't go to Gwalior on day 6
Good luck!
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The first week i'm going to be in Delhi for volunteering, so I hope in that week I can go see Delhi.
You need to be aware that it is illegal to volunteer with an NGO on a tourist visa.



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My question is: is this going to work? I've have already looked at the trains and planes and that works in this itinerary. All tips and trics are welcome!! If this is oke then i can go and book my train and plane tickets.
I think you have too many destinations in too little time. You will spend too much time travelling, and not enough time enjoying the destination. Are all of those cities really on your 'must see' list? One day is not enough in Varanasi or Amritsar. One safari in Ranthambore is not worth the effort.


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Does anybody know how it works with the tickets you get from Cleartrip? I mean the tickets you have booked in advance you can print them out but how does it works when you have to make a change and need another ticket? Is there a way that the hotel can print them out for you or do you have to go to a internetcafe for example?
Depends on your hotel.


Day 1-2 Agra, then by air to
Day 3-4 Khajuraho, then by air to
Day 5-7 Varanasi, then by air to Amritsar via Delhi
Day 8-10 Amristar, then by air to Udaipur via Delhi
Day 11-13 Udaipur, by train to Jodhpur
Day 14-15 Jodhpur, by train to Jaisalmer
Day 16-18 Jaisalmer, by train to Jaipur
Day 19-22 Jaipur, by train to Ranthambore
Day 23-25 Ranthambore, by train to Delhi
Day 26-28 Delhi and home
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Thank you all for commenting on my post!

1 of my questions is already answered that 1 safari on the Ranthambhore park is not enough so I think I would skip that one.

I'm indeed traveling alone and it will be in November and first week of December.

The thing that is coming back in every post is that I should spend more time in Varanasi and Amritsar so I have to look at that one.

Newyorkerindel you would recommend to just see 3-4 things in Agra, but can you tell me witch one? (of course the Taj Mahal)

Thanks again for commenting, this really helps me! If you have other tips I would love to hear them.
I'm going to look at my route to see what I can change and i will post it again.

DrRudi: I don't really know what you mean by it's illegal to volunteer by NGO (what does that mean?) Can you explain that for me? The organization I'm going with said I could volunteer on my tourist visa....and all the volunteers how have volunteered or are volunteering all does it on a tourist visa....

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