Help choosing best city for me

#1 May 31st, 2015, 03:54
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Hoping to get some advice or suggestions on some cities to consider moving to in India. I have not yet been to India. I am currently living in the Philippines, but plan to move to India within 6 months.

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1) A place where restaurants and people tend to focus on northern style Mughlai/Punjabi food. A city in the south, like Hyderabad, with a focus on such food is fine even though it is in the south. Hyderabad is actually the first city I plan to visit.

2) Large enough city to have a good selection of Indian restaurants. I don't care so much about good restaurants for other cuisines. Although that is always nice.

3) Small enough city/town not to have truly horrible air pollution and/or traffic. Although I accept it may not be possible to avoid traffic except by choosing a really small town without much of a restaurant selection. In that case I'd have to live with the traffic problems.

4) I would like to find a place where rents are not too high so that I could maybe rent at least a townhouse or small house/bungalow rather than a small apartment. I cannot spend more than $400 - $500 USD per month on rent and $300 -$400 would be a lot more comfortable for me.

5) Internet. The city has to be large enough to have decent and quasi-reliable internet. Either DSL or some kind of wireless with unlimited data and at least say 2-3 mbit download speeds. Not expecting fiber (FTTH) or anything although that would be very nice.

6) Safer motorbike driving. I cannot afford to buy a car and I want to be able to get through traffic jams if/when necessary. So I would like to purchase a motorbike. It would be nice to live in a place where this is not completely suicidal. I'm hoping for a place where the average motorcycle driver is not dead within 6 months. Most people here seem to know someone who was killed or severely injured driving a motorcycle. It's that common.

Where I live here in Philippines driving a motorbike is considered highly inadvisable and in fact even many locals are afraid to drive a motorbike here because the drivers are quite careless and aggressive and frankly don't seem to care very much about hitting pedestrians or motorbikes. I don't think they would lose sleep over it if they did either.

The attitude tends to be that if they are in the way then that is their own fault. The last accident I saw involved a motorcyclist who apparently did not look both ways before trying to cross an intersection and got plowed into by a car driving on the wrong side of the street. Either driver of the car was driving too fast to stop or he just couldn't be bothered. A friend of mine got hit by a truck while just sitting on his motorbike at a traffic light. Stationary targets are easier to hit I guess.

I am well aware that driving a motorcycle (A donorcycle they are sometimes called at US hospitals) is already a highly dangerous activity even in the best of conditions in a place where larger vehicles do their best to avoid actually hitting you, but a place where drivers are careless and drive erratically and without any concern for hitting anything that won't damage their own vehicle too badly it is insanely dangerous. Maybe in a smaller town without so much traffic it would be a bit safer. I can only hope that Indians have a bit more respect for human life than Filipinos seem to.
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I think you've chosen the wrong country.

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pariahdog, are you Indian? If not, you won't be able to just move to India. You wouldn't be able to live there permanently unless you marry an Indian citizen.

If you are Indian and can move there legally, moving to a place in six months when you've never visited it before isn't the best idea. What if you don't like India? Some people don't. Don't make any life changing moves before checking out things out.
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Originally Posted by goangoangone View Post I think you've chosen the wrong country.

Because the food is awful?
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Originally Posted by DaisyL View Post pariahdog, are you Indian? If not, you won't be able to just move to India. You wouldn't be able to live there permanently unless you marry an Indian citizen.

If you are Indian and can move there legally, moving to a place in six months when you've never visited it before isn't the best idea. What if you don't like India? Some people don't. Don't make any life changing moves before checking out things out.
Sorry. Forgot to mention that I will be visiting once or twice before moving there. It's okay if I don't like it much because I am going there to learn to cook and for the opportunity to eat the best Indian food in the world. Nothing else. And as far as not being able to live there permanently do they do anything to actively discourage visa runs?
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From what I understand, visa runs are accepted. That will be 180 days in India, I believe a few weeks out, and then you can go back for 180 days. I'm sure someone will correct me if that's wrong.


Actually, I'm editing this because I'm thinking a citizen from the Philippines might only get a 30 day visa. If your visa is only valid for thirty days, then it would be 30 days in, a few weeks out, then a new visa for thirty days. You'll need to check out how long your tourist visa is good for.
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Originally Posted by DaisyL View Post Actually, I'm editing this because I'm thinking a citizen from the Philippines might only get a 30 day visa. If your visa is only valid for thirty days, then it would be 30 days in, a few weeks out, then a new visa for thirty days. You'll need to check out how long your tourist visa is good for.
I think he is uum from OOSAA as hfot2 likes to say.
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Originally Posted by nycank View Post I think he is uum from OOSAA as hfot2 likes to say.
Thanks, nycank, I missed that.


In that case, it's the 180 days, few weeks out, back in for 180 days.
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Originally Posted by pariahdog View Post Hoping to get some advice or suggestions on some cities to consider moving to in India.
I think I suggested elsewhere, go to India first, get your internal bearings aligned. Why do I say this ? Because questions 1-5 are laden with misconception. India ain't Philippines. I say this in a friendly way because India is a hostile environment for you have COPD.


A townhouse for $500 ?
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A townhouse for $500 ?
Ruh roh. That doesn't sound good. Didn't realize cost of living was going to be an issue. I just figured India wouldn't be much more expensive than Malaysia or the Philippines. I can only really afford about 30,000 rupees per month in rent. So I can forget about townhouses? I guess I should start a new thread about cost of living in India. I searched on it but found very little that is relevant to me. My main concern is rent. I guess maybe most people working there get the rent paid for by their employer. For me it is my main expense. I guess I will have to look for small to medium sized cities or suburbs with lower rental costs.
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Originally Posted by pariahdog View Post Ruh roh. That doesn't sound good. Didn't realize cost of living was going to be an issue. I just figured India wouldn't be much more expensive than Malaysia or the Philippines. I can only really afford about 30,000 rupees per month in rent. So I can forget about townhouses? I guess I should start a new thread about cost of living in India. I searched on it but found very little that is relevant to me. My main concern is rent. I guess maybe most people working there get the rent paid for by their employer. For me it is my main expense. I guess I will have to look for small to medium sized cities or suburbs with lower rental costs.
Rs. 30,000/- a month can get you a 1 BHK or a studio type apartment in a fairly decent locality in South Delhi. I know people who pay less rent. Look up Magic bricks http://www.magicbricks.com/- and other such sites. If you are OK to share with flatmates, you might get better options in more upmarket neighbourhoods.

Large, urban centres such as Delhi, Mumbai, Kolkata, Bangalore etc, will be more conducive for your needs- many more and better restaurants, more avenues to explore cooking, more expats etc.
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$500 per month is not a bad budget at all to rent a house outside of the top 6 cities or so. Here's a sample advert for Udaipur using 99acres website - http://www.99acres.com/4-bhk-bedroom...spid-E19681419.

Use 99acres, Magicbricks or makaan.com to locate something suitable.

ETA: Udaipur has some cooking classes for expats as well. Similar rent would be possible for living in Jaipur as well, and that city is well in the top 10 now, nationwide (real estate appreciation wise).
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Indian cities with cheapest rents

Can anyone give me some idea of which medium to large cities have less expensive apartment/house rental costs? Or at least which cities are the most expensive? I did see some talk of Mumbai and Delhi being very expensive even by western standards, but I couldn't find much info about this issue. My upper limit for rent is about 30,000 rupees. What would that typically get me? Is rent much cheaper in smaller cities of say 200,000 to 500,000 people?
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mod note: Your new thread is merged with this existing one. Also, see my post #12 for a part answer and some starting points.
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Originally Posted by pariahdog View Post Can anyone give me some idea of which medium to large cities have less expensive apartment/house rental costs? Or at least which cities are the most expensive? I did see some talk of Mumbai and Delhi being very expensive even by western standards, but I couldn't find much info about this issue. My upper limit for rent is about 30,000 rupees. What would that typically get me? Is rent much cheaper in smaller cities of say 200,000 to 500,000 people?
Mumbai and Delhi are the most expensive.
Bangalore would be next I guess.
Most other big cities would have similar rents.
For 30,000 you would get a three bedroom unfurnished apartment in a reasonably good area in those cities. or a one-two bedroom furnished apartment.

you can check a site like www.housing.com to check what you would get in your budget. They have pics of the properties so you will know if it suits your standard.

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