BACK TO BACK tourist visas - tightening up?

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My recent return from Columbo was difficult. First when I booked in at the airline in Colombo. There they insisted on seeing an ongoing ticket which I didn't have. I rejoined I was travelling on to Nepal overland which wasn't true. A Japanese girl and myself both had this thrown at us. They finally relented and we were obliged to sign an indemnity form, which seemed to be all about baggage but also had mention of "ticket irregularities".

Then at immigration in Chennai
the official in her broken English seemed
unhappy at what she seemed to see as back to back visas. At one point she seemed to accuse me of I working in India. I was finally waived through rudely.

WHAT IS THE SITUATION WITH BACK TO BACK VISAS FRIENDS?
I've been here now 3 years. I did the last 3 exits to COLOMBO. I did Bangkok once and Kathmandu once. I'm due to exit again in late December 0016. I've heard it's better to use different exit entrance points. This suggests the different immigration gateways do not act in unison.
I've heard BANGKOK is no longer possible. Kathmandu would be logical for me as I'll be coming from Himachal but the winter cold and pollution is off putting.

DOES ANYONE HAVE A HANDLE ON WHAT'S HAPPENING. Is there a coherent policy at moment? As of MID/LATE 2016?

Should I seriously consider spending a while
outside before reentering? An acquaintance has said he's had no problem coming in from Phnom Penh. I'm wondering about Hanoi.

WOULD APPRECIATE ANY PERSPECTIVE FROM OLD TIMERS WHO HAVE BEEN DOING BACK TO BACKS. ;-)
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Is there a coherent policy at moment?
Has there ever been? At one time there were about 4 major patterns in granting turista visas. i started to write an article at Nadreg's suggestion. Very quickly I realized the patterns were shifting and that major variations could occur within a given consulate or sometimes between different consulates in the same country. There has been a rumour of a change in the long validity term visas. InshaAllah that will not come to pass (crossing my index fingers to ward off the Dracula of visa changes)..
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I think there has been a centralised immigration system for some years now. I don't know if they still bother to look through all the stamps in the passport... I think it is on the screen in front of them.

That suggests that, if there is a "tightening up," rather than your having encountered a tough official on a bad day, Port of entry won't make a difference.

Inconsistency and even ignorance in the commercial organisations that handle via paperwork abroad has been rife since outsourcing began, but even without that , policies differ from country to country. Hardly surprising that local visa-hop country missions have different policies to those in far-away continents.

The situation had been relaxed up to now. Change is inevitable, if only because of how other countries treat "tourists" from India.
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Three years is a long time on tourist visas.
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Originally Posted by Govindpuri View Post Three years is a long time on tourist visas.
I agree. Indian policy might be inconsistent, but what the OP is doing sounds very fishy. I don't know why the consulates continue to issue tourist visas, which are supposed to be for tourists, and why the Chennai official finally let the OP through.
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Originally Posted by RPG View Post ... ... ... I don't know why the consulates continue to issue tourist visas, which are supposed to be for tourists, and why the Chennai official finally let the OP through.
Because, up to now at least, there may have been arbitrary refusals (we don't know) but there is no actual firm policy of rejection. (as far as we know, which we don't).

Many of us have been predicting one, but, even though the 2-month-out rule came and went, and doesn't seem to have happened yet.
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Could you reveal your nationality? This might be of some help in answering your question.
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Yes, that has caused variations in the past. For awhile there was a spat against Italians. Then there was a nasty against americanos. But, Modiji had a great trip to NY..
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Once upon a time it was the Danes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purulia_arms_drop_case
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Originally Posted by RPG View Post I agree. Indian policy might be inconsistent, but what the OP is doing sounds very fishy.
Not everyone doing visa run is fishy.

I have heard of few people who hang around in Dharamsala learning or teaching Tibetan students.
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Originally Posted by RPG View Post I agree. Indian policy might be inconsistent, but what the OP is doing sounds very fishy. I don't know why the consulates continue to issue tourist visas
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You know, Indian authorities will copy from fireners ! Or, bairer Lok (outsiders)

Currently, I/O (Immigrations Officer) in Deshland is sort of straight-jacketed, with no leeway or independent judgement. The more eVisa3.0 and VOA 2.1 (currently only one, but more can start) pax arrive, the more they might adopt a US or AU runbooks. A really scary thought !!

According to US CBP (Customs and Border Protection) Officers I have spoken to, visa runs are always fishy ! All B1/B2s, VWPs are more out than in, in a year, for a reason. If India implements, that, then drunk gaijins will be shocked into instant soberness ! And, guess who will cry bloody racism ?


[Remember folks ! You heard it here first - Also expanded 10 year visas, like US B1s, and discretion given at Port-of-Entry - No ETA though ]
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Originally Posted by Govindpuri View Post Not everyone doing visa run is fishy.

I have heard of few people who hang around in Dharamsala learning or teaching Tibetan students.
Ahem...

Being a student on a T visa?
Teaching on a T visa?

Fishy!
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Being a student on a T visa?
Teaching on a T visa?

Fishy!
A tourist visa should be valid for study or unpaid teaching as long as it is within the duration of the visa.
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Once upon a time it was the Danes:
I remember that now. Golghar, are you one one of those people who give public presentations on how many numbers they can memorize? For me I can't remember my anniversary. Fortunately, I always receive a hint several days in advance from my better half..
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Originally Posted by Govindpuri View Post A tourist visa should be valid for study or unpaid teaching as long as it is within the duration of the visa.
In Brooklyn they say shouldawouldacoulda

Nearly all countries have Student visa that allows a longer term no-visa-run-stay. Maybe I should rename this melaniatrumpvisarun
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