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#31 Oct 15th, 2006, 22:20
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Originally Posted by smallsquirrel waaaaait. why would you assume we're the best house on the lane?
we're actually far from it.
its the class system......i think if i am dirt poor, i will pick the swankiest house in the lane to leave my autograph.

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Originally Posted by smallsquirrel you never, and I mean NEVER see women peeing all over the place? It's ridiculous.
its ridiculous that women dont pee? believe me if women knew how to stand and pee...i am sure you will see them too...dammit, i protest....women should pee more outside.


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Originally Posted by smallsquirrel do explain why 1/2 the people I see pissing about in bangalore are all wearing FORMALS on their way to cushy 1 lakh a month jobs?
do explain how a team of 10 or so wearing the best formals money can buy in the white house are peeing over the entire world


ps.....i share your anger.
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This is what you do...

You get your wall painted with the holy figures and/or symbols of Hindu (several gods: you have to cover the field), Muslim, Christian and any other gods you can think of.

It won't stop everybody, but it will stop 90%!

Worked for the wall just around the corner from me, which everyone usd to use in passing, as well as the taxi drivers who all use the street to park in. You no longer have to hold your breath when walking there.

I took a piss in a village once, at night. Being me, I did it behind a bush. Also being me, snakes did not cross my mind... My companions told me off and warned me to do it against the house wall just across the street, not on the scrub side of the street...

But that's an escuse that doesn't, err, wash in the city.
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do explain how a team of 10 or so wearing the best formals money can buy in the white house are peeing over the entire world


weeeeeel yes I cannot help but agree to that statement.
Just watched a brilliant Jon Steward episode... oh, off topic!

and hey nick.. .they tried that here in bangalore, painting OM and the crescent moon and star and pics of ganesha, etc. all over walls.... people STILLLLLL peed on the walls.
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you know how you have those automatic sensors in male urinals in some places...that flush when you walk away... maybe you should have those in your walls except that it should be programmed and pointed to the person standing in front.....should shower them back with an unexpected voley of dirty water or throw the pee back them.....maybe that will help!!...


oh we are way offtopic here anyway. those toilet discussions i tellya.....

hope the OP doesnt mind.


jon stewart...
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Originally Posted by smallsquirrel and how is it that only MEN have these emergencies? you never, and I mean NEVER see women peeing all over the place? It's ridiculous.
Men are, in general, pigs smallsqui, but i am sure you knew that. Women, if they want to be pigs, are more discreet
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Originally Posted by laughingbuddha Men are, in general, pigs smallsqui, but i am sure you knew that. Women, if they want to be pigs, are more discreet
hee, yes this is true. I once had a major incident near okalipuram and the only ones who knew it were the auto driver and my hubby.

not all men are pigs. but yeah I guess men can get away with more. but this is the main reason I get squirrely eating street food. pee-pee hands... eeeeeeeeeew!

and hey greenchutney... I wanna take a hidden camera, take pics of all the peers and take out a full page ad in the deccan herald every week with all the faces of all the people who pee on my wall.
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good god. another toilet thread.

ok, lets get to the toilet paper part, quickly
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Indeed it is....but

Hey all,

I've been reading this site for the last few months and found it quite reassuring before moving here. I'm now in my third week in Delhi. It is definitely a different place, a shock to the senses, we all know.

I find myself so busy with work during the week that the only time I actually notice things is when I get some time to reflect. The only advice I can give you is to just jump in, however it's always going to be tough living away from what one considers normal. Was finding it a little tough at times, and still am, but just said to myself: millions of people can't be wrong, maybe I should just become more flexible! I'm lovin it...most of the time!

Best of luck to you all and gotta say more power to whoever's running this site. One of a kind!

Delhi is definitely unique in many ways, even in India. But would love some more tips on how to get used to the place!!

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kacklino: Welcome to IndiaMike

GreenChutney: that sensor idea is superb An alternative would be a grid carrying a moderate amount of electricity, covered with a thin layer of soil...........

And even if I usually do represent the maker-of-a-new-life brigade, yes, I sometimes wake up in the morning wondering, occasionally even regretting. Usually that leads to wanting the best of both worlds, something that money just does not allow...

Sometimes I wonder what on earth it was that used to make me long for that anual holiday --- in india.

But after a good hard think about London: I'm staying here!

(I think I said all that in an earlier post: put it down to age )
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A few things. Based on my experience living abroad before (mostly in Ireland) it can take a person 3-10 months to adjust. I found that doing the things I enjoyed at home helped the most: buying and reading books, exploring new places using maps, buying cooking and eating seafood, visiting with local animals, etc.

I have found Delhi to be a nicer place than most of the other north Indian cities I have visited. I prefer it to Jaipur, Agra, and Maradabad for sure. It is a place where you have to accept that things are much less efficient and many people are not interesting in improving things.

Regarding peeing. Yes, women do pee in public in broad daylight. I saw mass lady peeing once when a cross country bus stopped at a crossroads. The pee problem is cultural and is not just in need of a government fix like more toilets.

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I can perfectly understand your feelings. It really takes time to adjust.... After a kind of cultural shock one day i decided to discover India as a kid. I imagined being only a few years old and discovering the world, without judging anything, just like learning a new life. It was nice! This attitude helped me a lot, and day by day I became more "Indian". I can't exaxly say after how much time i really felt at home in Kerala, but i think it was around after 6 months. There were still bad days, but I can't really say that I ever felt really homesick.

Coming back to Germany was much more difficult, as everything seemed so familiar but still strange, and after more than a year now I still feel my heart is partially somewhere else. Whenever I see pictures or movies of South India, I get this "home"-feeling....

I wish that you can get such a feeling one day, maybe you can really discover places in Delhi where you simply feel good!
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Mmmm... I wonder if people go through a sort of stateless phase? And if so, how far in?

It is only 4.5 months since I last returned from UK, yet it seems ages! And it feels really weird that I don't have to run back for a new visa in 6 weeks time. Not bad, just wierd!

I suppose that if anything is disturbing me, it is being about to move house. That is something I hate doing, however good the destination.
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Thank you!

I took myself off to beautiful Uttaranchal for the weekend to escape Delhi for a bit and it has helped.

I am amazed at how much support is available here - its a little nerve-racking to post a 'i-don't-really-like-it-here' thread on an india forum, so a big ta for helping me realise that even those of you who adore the place are still a little overwhelmed at times.

I will take your suggestions on board.
I have a few places in Delhi where I feel comfortable now - little bookshops, a couple of cafes and a market or two. I am taking Hindi lessons (which I love) and working on developing friendships.
I resolve to seek out expats for the occasional beer or three!

Hopefully this a simply a case of the honeymoon ending and a new period of adjustment beginning.

Cheers.
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I've been in Delhi for 3 weeks and i think it would take me about three years to get used to it. its a hard place to live, its dirty, polluted, traffic is unbelievable and as a 18 year old english girl the constant harrassment and stares from men is REALLY beginning to piss me off, this even happens when i'm out with indian male friends - though they are very protective of me. the main thing i find difficult (apart from the language barrier though i will learn hindi i promise) is that i'm so dependent on the people im staying and working with to look after me and take me out. at home in london i'm extremley independent, but here i've been told its not safe for me to go out after dark or take buses and i don't even feel comfortable walking down the street on my own. i want to shout out to everyone i'm not a tourist; i live here!! i can live with the pollution and the lack of pavements its just the feeling of being an alien i hate. the one thing i really miss about london is the anonymity
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Thing is, in a sense you are a tourist!

In that you are a newcomer ---it doesn't sound as if you knew the city well from before--- so, to the onlookers you are going to be walking, talking, behaving, maybe dressing and so on, much as a tourist would.

You may not feel, in six months time, as if the way you walk down the street has changed --- but I guarantee it will have, and I strongly suspect (quite apart from the fact the people near your home/work will recognise you and accept you as part of the scenery) that, unless you do something like wildly flouting local dress convention, people won't stare so much.

And perhaps, even if it happens, you won't notice the stares so much. I know it is different, and much more blatant in India: but do you notice the guys who stare at you every day in London? Yes, you can say I'm a man and I can't see this from your point of view, and I'd have to admit that that is true...

Also I have to admit that it is easier for a man to negate a stare --- or turn it into a grin even --- with a smile or a head-wobble. We still get stared at though... thing is, I can't remember the last time I noticed it! On the other hand, I am about to move house, and I know that I'm going to have to go through the process of being the freak of the district all over again until people there get used to me.
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