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#31 Sep 5th, 2010, 16:47
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Originally Posted by Winterlotus View Post I I'm sure there are very few people who think wanting to live somewhere *entitles* them to do so, and they are coming to IndiaMike for feedback on the 'hows', not to be judged on the 'whys'.
Possibly you think that because you've only been around since July. In fact, those of us who have been around IM a bit longer have seen many, many people with the attitude that they should be entitled to live in India just because they want to - or because they think their contribution to the local economy will be so spectacular (on their retiree's income) that the Indian government should be rolling out the red carpet for them.

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Originally Posted by Nightshining View Post I have seen quite a few Indians who come to America, take jobs from native born Americans and stay here until they retire or as long as they like.
Well, not exactly, and in any event the Indians you're talking about weren't retirees who just got a bee in their bonnet that they wanted to come to the U.S. and park their behinds here indefinitely. By and large the Indians who have come to the U.S. have done so on H-1B employment visas, which they got because they had specialized skills some employer here needed. A limited number of these visas are issued each year to foreign professionals who are sponsored by a U.S. employer to work in a specialty occupation. An H-1B visa doesn't let the foreign national stay "as long as they like." It's generally valid for three years and can be extended for an additional three-year period. An employer MAY, but is not required to, sponsor an H-1B employee for a Green Card. If the employer doesn't sponsor the Green Card application, the employee will have to leave the U.S.. Other than coming on employment visas (or student visas, which also don't allow the foreigner to stay indefinitely), Indians who are able to actually immigrate to the U.S. generally do so on some kind of family reunification visa because they have close family members here. Otherwise, immigration is essentially impossible for them.

In any event, India certainly isn't the only country in the world that doesn't allow people to move there just because they "want to." And if you want a little quid pro quo, maybe the U.S. should start making it as easy for an Indian to get a plain, ordinary TOURIST visa to visit the U.S. as it is for an American to get a tourist visa to visit India.
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Bravo, Dzibead. That was an excellent post - clear, concise and to the point. Well done.

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#33 Sep 5th, 2010, 19:35
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dzibead, maybe my first post was in July, but I have been perusing various threads on IndiaMike for more than 2 years now. Although I am fully familiar with the whole spectrum of attitudes of those wanting to live in India, I just don't think it is worth getting worked up about, that's all. Take what you can and leave the rest behind; offer what you can and leave the rest behind... :-)
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If anyone denies entry for Indians in the US, they immediately scream 'racism' but don't mind applying their own restrictions. Its all one-sided, the Indian way.

Why not move to Bali instead? Such a beautiful and lovely place, kind people, more acceptance.
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Do you know anything about this?
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Originally Posted by offshore View Post If anyone denies entry for Indians in the US, they immediately scream 'racism' but don't mind applying their own restrictions. Its all one-sided, the Indian way.

Why not move to Bali instead? Such a beautiful and lovely place, kind people, more acceptance.
Do you have more details on both ? Denial of Entry, and Bali
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Put with subtlety..
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Originally Posted by offshore View Post If anyone denies entry for Indians in the US, they immediately scream 'racism' but don't mind applying their own restrictions. Its all one-sided, the Indian way.
This thread is not about denying entry but about getting or not getting permanent residence. The OP is free to visit India any number of times on a tourist visa.
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Originally Posted by offshore View Post If anyone denies entry for Indians in the US, they immediately scream 'racism' but don't mind applying their own restrictions. Its all one-sided, the Indian way.
Less subtly, and more dismissively- what a load of crock.
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Such hai..
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As others have pointed out, what the OP wishes to do is not permitted by many countries including the US and Canada. Could/should India change its policies to allow for such emigration are issues for its citizens and leaders to decide - as would be the case in the US, Canada and elsewhere. [For completeness, Canada does have a category for high net worth immigrants, with net worth of 800k+ and willing to invest 400k+ in the local economy.]

If you took a straw poll of those on this thread itself, they'd probably be in overwhelmingly be favor of relaxing the laws in this area - so that's not what's producing some of the deservedly negative reactions. There is an unmistakable undercurrent of resentment on the part of the OP (and an explicit resentment on the part of 'offshore') against the legal Indian emigration to the US and a needless attempt to tie the two even though it has no bearing on the discussion. In fact the policies of the two nations (the US and India) towards retirement emigres is identical!

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How about some "quid pro quo".
question from the OP is that you got it - right now!
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Simply go to pakistan where Your govt is pumping money

if you are luky enogh your life may get shortend in a bomb blast or >>>> atack

India is not old age home
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India is not old age home
I saw this as a proposal somewhere (or was that the Old Monk). Its 74,500/year for a nursing home in LA, out-sourcing. All that India needs is a logo for such on the lines of the Dominican Republic 0 0 ..
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Originally Posted by ujwala View Post Simply go to pakistan where Your govt is pumping money

if you are luky enogh your life may get shortend in a bomb blast or >>>> atack

India is not old age home
India gets a few bob in hand-outs as well.

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Originally Posted by offshore View Post If anyone denies entry for Indians in the US, they immediately scream 'racism' but don't mind applying their own restrictions. Its all one-sided, the Indian way.
Pardon me while I fall off my chair laughing. You have no earthly idea what you're talking about.
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