The quirks of Indian English

#2641 Jan 12th, 2018, 23:24
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Originally Posted by not_ally View Post I will never be able to pronounce the malayalam word for potato, ever.
I just got Mrs N to tell it to me. Neither will I

Amazing how easy the very-similar word in Tamil is!
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potato in malayalam is an impossible word, agreed! malayalam [a palindrome] has the dubious distinction of being the fastest spoken language in the world [guiness book]...and if you have heard two malayalees in the thick of an argument you will well believe it!
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Anar, my best friend (American) says it sounds like Malayalees are arguing no matter what they are saying. Of course, a lot of the time he was around my mother, so he might have been right . Nick, potato-potahto is not a concept here, so frustrating after practicing the damn word umpteen times, thinking I finally have it and seeing the amused smiles making it clear that I haven't. Now when I am ordering I just say "a kilo of those things, please".
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so frustrating after practicing the damn word umpteen times, thinking I finally have it and seeing the amused smiles making it clear that I haven't.
You are doing way better than I am, or probably ever will, with Tamil
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Originally Posted by anar View Post potato in malayalam is an impossible word, agreed! malayalam [a palindrome] has the dubious distinction of being the fastest spoken language in the world [guiness book]...and if you have heard two malayalees in the thick of an argument you will well believe it!
I have been in Kerala only once and had no difficulty following English speaking Keralans. anar, your post reminded me that once, on an Indian domestic airline flight, a hostess spoke English correctly but so rapidly that I and another foreigner could not follow her. Might the hostie's first language have been malayalam?
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Originally Posted by unclelach View Post I have been in Kerala only once and had no difficulty following English speaking Keralans.
People in/from Kerala, like many Indians, often speak several languages. The only one I can assess is English. They speak it like.... English.

I discovered, nearly twenty years ago, when my hearing was a lot better than it is now, that I could never hope to learn Malayalam because it includes different sounds that I could not tell apart --- the g/g/k/k thing. Which I think applies to Hindi too?

As a purely-subjective listening-to-sound thing, I would say that Malayalam is slightly softer and sweeter than Tamil. Those that like curvy figures may prefer its text too , Although for really curvy-curly-whirlies, please see Telugu.

Mrs N is going to learn Kannada next. Damn, why could I never decide to learn a language and just do it
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I know, I flirt with the idea of learning Hindi and then am deterred by the hugeness of the task. Forget about learning malayalam script, that is just crazy stuff. Kind of pretty, but crazy. As a kid growing up in the West, my parents would often speak to us in Malayalam (so I understand quite a bit) but we always answered in English. I wish they had forced us to answer in kind, but such was not the fashion then.
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I just received an email from the Ministry of Railways:
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Beware of rogues during train travel, they may harm you and your family in any way
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Do they carry documentation saying that they may?

They should show it before being allowed to harm!
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Originally Posted by Nick-H View Post Do they carry documentation saying that they may?

They should show it before being allowed to harm!
We may speculate that they may have such documentation, which may say they don't have to show it.
We may not speculate that they may have been given it by a secret court because we may be forbidden to mention the court exists.

... Oh sorry, we are talking about India not the UK or USA - forget I mentioned it. That is an Order.

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This is how they identify themselves (or is it the victim?): (source)

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roguess

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Originally Posted by NonIndianResident View Post I just received an email from the Ministry of Railways:
This is probably an example of older British usage surviving in another dialect when it has dropped out of the original.

In many older judgements in law cases detailing fraud in England the conman is always referred to a 'a rogue'. lets hope they all get 'nabbed'
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...Naah, they are all absconding!

Rogue didn't catch my eye: it was the misuse of may that I noticed. Confusion of may/can/might/etc is pretty common everywhere. Miss, can I go to the toilet?/If you can't you should see a doctor was a joke when I was a very small schoolboy.
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Originally Posted by Nick-H View Post Rogue didn't catch my eye: it was the misuse of may that I noticed.
Well, if it comes to that, it was a run-on sentence as well. I had posted it because of "rogue" -- are you so used to it that you didn't notice?
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Originally Posted by Nick-H View Post ...Miss, can I go to the toilet?/If you can't you should see a doctor was a joke when I was a very small schoolboy.
Unimaginable though such a far distant time might be, that joke is even older.
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