Is Goa really India?

#1 Nov 3rd, 2003, 02:17
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Separated by dint of Portugese colonization for over 400 years, Goan culture evolved distinctly from the rest of India. Reunited only in the early 1960's, Goa retains many unique aspects. Is Goa really part of India? Do travelers to it's superb beaches really get an Indian experience? Many IMers return there on a regular basis; others make a point to travel anywhere but there. What's your opioion? I don't know how to make a poll, but would like to know your views.
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Major difference between the Portuguese and British is more obvious in Goa: the British went over there to administer trade and the Portuguese on a conversionary mission -- all that in addition to stripping the country of treasures, of course.

The British frowned on intimate relations with the native people. The Portuguese told their young, single soldiers: "See those pretty girls? Convert them and marry them."
The map is not the territory. --Alfred Korzybski
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It could be argued that everywhere in India is different.

I have not got enough experience of Goa to know how different it is from the rest of India.

I thought it was different to other places, but I thought the same about Jaisalmer, Diu, Mumbai, Ooty..............

Could the same question be posed for other parts of India, - Is Nagaland really India?
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What is the true, authentic essence of any given place? When do you see the really real nature of a country?

I think Goa is just as real a part of India as any other part. It just has a different history and cultural roots and must be viewed and understood on those grounds.

When do you get a real picture of the United States? Or China? Huge countries usually don't have a homogenous culture, since they integrate a vast variety of traditions and ethnic groups with differing customs, historical roots, languages, etc.

Does Goa reflect Hindu culture? Probably not very well. India on a whole is a major mystery, almost a logical impossibility - how it can function coherently (does it?) with so many political, linguistic, and ethnic groups and not fall apart!

Anyway, when you go to Goa I think you can say that you've seen a part of India, a part like no other part, but a part that adds to the peculiarity of present day India on a whole.
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This quotation is from a Goa tourism site:

"As a land with the identity of its own, Goa was brought into focus when it was liberated of Portugal from its oppressive rule of around 450 hundred years in 1961. "
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Goa definately felt like India but not India India if you get what i mean?
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is brighton england? is california america? is costa del sol spain? is the riviera france? and that is just the start! india is much more complex than lines on a map... is goa india, is north india india or is south india india? all i can say is its all india... india is a state of the mind.... god bless india!!
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Thumbs up

Fat Freddy's Cat wrote:
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Goa definately felt like India but not India India
Coud not have said it better myself.
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India on a whole is a major mystery, almost a logical impossibility - how it can function coherently (does it?) with so many political, linguistic, and ethnic groups and not fall apart!
This is what surprises me. India is a Micro world by itself. It has more languages, cultures, philosophies than the entire world put together. But still, it continues to function as one single country. What could be the reason?? Is it that the people are more non-violent than at other places on earth, or is it the religion that binds us together?, or is it the poverty that fails to enable enough resources to demand 'self determination', or what?
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You can spend time in Goa without experiencing a true Indian expereince if you want to. Youcan do this in most of the big cities. It depends what you are looking to get out of your trip. If you are looking for the "real" India, you can find it there just as real as Delhi or anywhere else.
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