Indrahar Pass Dharamshala in August 2013

#1 Jul 15th, 2013, 17:38
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Dear all,

I intend to cross Indrahar Pass from Dharamshala to Chamba.

Itinerary : 28.08.13-01.09.13

Day 1 : McLeodganj - Triund
Day 2 : Triund - Lahesh Cave
Day 3 : Lahesh Cave - Indrahar - Chata Cave
Day 4 : Chata Cave - Kuarsi
Day 5 : Kuarsi - Hiling - Chamba

Although I am a bit familiar with the area upto Triund still uncertain about following:

Temperatures especially during night as I have Sleeping bag for upto 10 degree C comfort. Will it work with a liner and all clothing put on?

Is it required to take Ice-axe & crampoons at this time of season.

From Chamba is it advisable to take the toy train upto Pathan kot, where and at what time can one catch this train assuming somewhere around afternoon so as to reach pathankot by evening.

Suitable guide cum cook who is familiar with the terrain, preferably any local, I do no want to go with sahib style and will be going solo carrying my own loads. Only cooking & terrain is my problem.

I have gone through other threads on Indrahar Pass, even a very well documented report but they fail to answer to my current scenario.

Your Valuable suggestions as always will be much appreciated. Thanks in advance.
#2 Jul 15th, 2013, 17:48
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I would say check out the weather first. Will it hold? Or will it rain a lot?
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Yeah will definitely check the local weather there before leaving.
Actually beyond Triund the weather is rather canny !! so rain gear is intact.

Thanks
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Originally Posted by Riyan View Post From Chamba is it advisable to take the toy train upto Pathan kot, where and at what time can one catch this train assuming somewhere around afternoon so as to reach pathankot by evening.
There is a narrow gauge line between Pathankot and Jogindernagar on which you have to get off at Kangra and catch a bus to Dharamshala and further upto McLeodganj. There is no railway line between Chamba and Pathankot.

Taking the train you'll take more than double the time to reach Dharamshala than you would taking an interstate bus
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Actually Papaji,

My intention is to do the opposite exit via Kangra by Toy Train i.e. Chamba-Kangra-Pathankot-Delhi. The problem is name of the train station & time where one is supposed to catch the train in Kangra Valley.
Only have heard about the beauty of this train track and saw it once tough Knagra Fort, it was amazing sight, wondered how the valley will look when seated inside the train.
Thats why no problem with the time taken to reach by narrow gauge.

Any suggestion as to where will one has to get off around chamba-kangra to take the nearst rail head.
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Yes we once took the Pathankot train and found it so slow that we gave up. However recently I just took a short joyride between Baijnath Papraula and Palampur and it was great fun. We also tried to trek Indhrahar pass in 2009 in May and there was so much snow that we had to turn back!
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Originally Posted by Riyan View Post My intention is to do the opposite exit via Kangra by Toy Train i.e. Chamba-Kangra-Pathankot-Delhi. The problem is name of the train station & time where one is supposed to catch the train in Kangra Valley.

Any suggestion as to where will one has to get off around chamba-kangra to take the nearst rail head.
I traveled on this line in 1998 ) that was a long time back

There are two stations on this line for Kangra. One is a few kms out of Kangra town, and is called the Kangra Fort station (is the one I used in 98) , this one however is just a few hundred meters from the main Kangra-Una highway. The other station is much closer to the town although not sure of its exact location, its called the Kangra mandir station. The stations on this route are cute n earthy and very different in feel from the ones on the popular hill railway route Kalka-Shimla.

No idea about schedules
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Originally Posted by mridula View Post Yes we once took the Pathankot train and found it so slow that we gave up. However recently I just took a short joyride between Baijnath Papraula and Palampur and it was great fun. We also tried to trek Indhrahar pass in 2009 in May and there was so much snow that we had to turn back!
Of really! but i didnot know that snow might stay till May on Indrahar, seems will have to confirm with the guide about the probable situation in August.

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Originally Posted by Papaji View Post I traveled on this line in 1998 ) that was a long time back

There are two stations on this line for Kangra. One is a few kms out of Kangra town, and is called the Kangra Fort station (is the one I used in 98) , this one however is just a few hundred meters from the main Kangra-Una highway. The other station is much closer to the town although not sure of its exact location, its called the Kangra mandir station. The stations on this route are cute n earthy and very different in feel from the ones on the popular hill railway route Kalka-Shimla.

No idea about schedules
Think that might work, I suppose Kangra Mandir station might be closer than Kangra Fort stn. Will have to check. '98 is really a long time surroundings might have changed a lot now;

But yeah Kangra Toy Train is really an underrrated one.

Just Hope to Hop on it ..!!

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Just saw the total route of the train and it is really loooong... I think the time taken will be approx 6-8 hours from Knagra to reach Pathankot. also, it seems one will have to go in opposite direction to savour the route.

Has anybody done Indrahar the opposite way, Crossing over Dhramshala from Chamba?
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I am travelling to Indrahar pass on the same dates. will be going to Kuarsi and then to holi. From there I plan to trek to manimahesh via Kalah pass.
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By manimahesh you mean the lake??
Is it already time for manimahesh yatra..Fill me in have you finalized the guides and all?
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yes Manimahesh lake it is. Im not taking guides. A friend is accompanying me though this is his first trek in Himalayas. The plan is for 15 days. starting from 28th august from Mcleodganj. we are taking the kalah pass route after Ravi as it is a lesser travelled route. The yatra on the other hand takes place via the Hadsar route. But a few locals do take the Kalah pass route to Manimahesh. We'll be carrying the food and a small cooking cylinder (2 litres) along with the usual tents, sleeping bags and other gear. plan to hike slowly , enjoying the view. Since my village (maternal side ) is in Dharamsala i dont think we should have any real problems, though i do not know the place very well. we visit Dharamsala only once a year and that too for a month. but since ive trekked to lahesh, i think the route till indrahar will be easy to guess. after that we do not have nay idea of the route. ive been scrounging around the net and google maps for more info. The route doesn't seem very tough especially in august when there is hardly any snow. if the dates coincide we'll met up Riyan
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That seems quite bit of time to be spent on trekking
I too am quite reluctant for guides, just need some local person who can cook and know the way after Indrahar pass, beacause it is not very well marked plus there are some nallahs to cross.

I do not know lets see, if I can arrange any guide at reasonable rate then only would cross to chamba otherwise, will visit Indrahar and return back to Mcleo.

Do let me know when you are in Mcleo or dharmshala I will reach there on 28th Aug early morning.

By the way how do you guys plan to take all the rations for a 15 day trek.
Here is a link for geographical map for your oute finding, hope it might help
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/ams/india/ni-43-16.jpg
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guide

i have trekked with guide Jangooram cell no 09816214339, who currently lives in siddhabari (near Dharamshala) & he is from village Kuarsi.
Jangooram is very experienced guide & will be able to tell you whether it is possible to do "Indrahara trek" in august or not, further details information on "jangoo" is available on "trekhimachal.com"
"Indrahara pass" becomes bit tricky once you cross it & hence guide is must
Hope this help
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I might be interested but I'll have to start from Chandigarh. Interested ?

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