Dharamsala / Dalhousie / Khajjiar in Mar 19-28

#1 Feb 16th, 2010, 17:30
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Notwithstanding my aversion to winding roads as mentioned here:

http://www.indiamike.com/india/india...roads-t102033/

reading about the beauty of the Dhauladhar region is enticing me to plan a trip there in March.

Wanted to know if it will be too cold to visit during this period..What will be the expected minimum temperatue? Any chance of seeing snow somewhere? Keen on snow, but not too keen on too cold temperatues all through the trip
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#2 Feb 18th, 2010, 15:19
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the days are warm and nights chilly but if it rains it gets chilly in dalhousie you can touch snow on your way from dalhousie to khajiar
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Thanks sunnykashmir.

Any idea what will be the temperature in degree celsius both during the day and in the evening..Warm and chilly are relative i guess :-) Am from Mumbai, so even something like 10-15 degrees is going to seem cold to me..

Also if i shift my dates by a week (Mar 26 - Apr 3), can i expect it to get somewhat warmer?
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Maximum would be around 15-20 and minimum around 8-10. Days would be sunny so you will not feel that cold.

Doubt about snow. It might be there at Lakadmandi or higher up at Dyankund.
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dontu worry you will have the best of times. Even i am from Mumbai and i am travelling the same dates. If u are visiting Manali then i suppose u will be able to experience Snow at Rohtang otherwise i think as suggested by EXPERTS Days are reasonably cool and Nights are going to be chilly.
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Thanks all for your replies..
Here's a tentative plan. Starting Fri 26th March from Mumbai

Fri: Mum-Delhi flight, overnite train to Pathankot
Sat: Freshen up in Pathankot, bus to Dalhousie
Sat/Sun/Mon/Tue: Dalhousie/Chamba/Khajjiar
Wed: Travel to Mcleodganj
Wed/Thu/Fri - Mcleodgang..Triund trek..what else?
Sat - possibly train to Pathankot from Kangra, overnite to Delhi and back.

Questions:
  • Suggestions for quickly freshening up in Pathankot? Anything worth visiting for about half a day or so there? (would be too tired to directly take the bus to Dalhousie immdatly after the train)
  • How to go from Dalhousie to Mcleodganj?
  • Best place to spot snow during the trip?

Any other comments/suggestions welcome..

Looking for a relaxed trip. not keen on traveling everyday to visit must-see places..

Regards
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Neeradj,

I am planning on going to Phatankot and onwards in a few days and have started looking around for information myself, but for your first question, this page might provide some answers on nearby things to see:
http://wikitravel.org/en/Pathankot

Good luck.
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Thanks Madri..that link was helpful.

I have now booked the tickets up to and back from Pathankot.Slight change in dates - Reaching pathankot on 25th march morning, and leaving on 3rd april night.

I intend to base myself at two locations - Dharamsala and Dalhousie and visit the surroundings (Chamba, Khajjiar, Triund etc) at a leisurely pace..Any other suggestions? I believe i have enough days on hand..

Also intend to travel in the Kangra valley toy train at least one way..Have read though that the train tends to get crowded..Any recent experiences? I believe tickets are only available on the stations on-route, but is it possible to "reserve" seats in advance, or the ticket is just a journey ticket? Wouldnt want to spend four hours in a cramped train (after having done that for all my life in Mumbai trains ) Any particular suggestion on whether the onward or return journey would be better by train? Havent yet decided on the order of Dharamsala/Dalhousie..

Also - would like to experience some snow at least for a couple of days if possible..What would be the best bet?

Thanks
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Hi Neerajd,

I'm doing almost close to what you are planning and it sounds good. I also took the bust from Pathankot to Dalhousie and stayed at Dalhousie view where I got a decent room for 250 with a good view of the snow capped mountains. I can provide contact info if you need it.

I'm assuming you will be walking around mostly like I did so you could check out the Tibetan Market very near the bus stand (also has Eva's internet shop near hardware store where you can browse for 30 Rs an hour which was the cheapest I found). A walk to Gandhi chowk market which is I think 2 km away was a slightly uphill climb but nice to go and have some things to eat and look around. On the way to Gandhi chowk you will first hit Subash Chown...be sure to ask someone how to go towards the Dalhousie View hotel since you can go to their terrace and get a great shot of the mountains.

From Gandhi chowk you can go to two places, the Subash Baoli which is about 1km away wasn't great and can be skipped, but I liked the walk to the place and also got a decent view from there. The Panchpulla area which is about 2km away has a good trek up the mountain to the top which you might like since you are considering triund trek as well.

The earliest bus from Dalhousie towards Khajjiar/Chamba leaves at 9 or 9:30am. In Khajjiar really there isn't much to do or see except the meadow area with the small pond and the surrounding pine trees and an awesome shot of the ice covered mountains (if skies are clear...I had to wait a day to pick a clear day). Also you have the Nag temple, and if you walk on the road towards Chamba (ask someone how to get to the temple with the 80 ft Shiva statue), then in about 15 mins you should see this other temple with the big statue and another amazing view of the mountains.

I don't think ur next bus from Khajjiar will be till 5 pm...I could be mistaken though so plan accordingly. I chose to first goto Chamba, visit and stay overnight then take the bus from there at 7am to Khajjiar then take the 10:15 bus back to Chamba...I couldn't spend more than 3 hours in Khajjiar alone since the guys there told me not to walk into the forest alone heh.


In Chamba...you
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Meh got cut off...anyway before I continue my ramblings, let me answer a couple of your other questions:

Dalhousie to McLeod there is a bus that goes from Dalhousie to Dharamsala and then I know there are buses from there to McLeod. Alternatively, you could choose to leave Dalhousie for Chamba where you have more bus options to Dharamsala.

Snow so far on my trip (Chamba now) has been tough to find...on the route from Dalhousie to Khajjiar you will see snow on the side (but dirty yucky snow), plus its hard to convince the bus driver to let you off to go play for a bit and get back on board. Will advise further into my trip (going to Mcleod next then nearby Palampur/Kangra, then Manali, Kulu, Shimla and taking the toy train there to Kalka)

In Chamba, definately go to the Chamnuda temple on top...it is a long uphill walk and I took the road opposite the bus stand (ask the tea shop guys) all the way to it and then the stairs back down. The view from top is awesome. Again if you have clear skies...the weather can throw a wrench in ur plans sometimes. If you don't want to walk, there are buses that go there as well. Also worth checking out is the Lakshmi Narayan group of temples.

The main Chaugan area is also a nice bustling market area. The church was always closed so I couldn't get in to see it, and I didn't find the Rang Mahal to be anything great.

The views from Chamba of the mountains are great...I like Chamba...not many options to stay, and not many tourists, but its a nice place. I stayed at the City Heart hotel which was ok...I was tired and hungry so I coughed up the 500 Rs for the room without shopping for others. The HP guest house Iravaditi is more expensive I know that...and the three budget hotels I saw but didn't get info on price or quality are Jimmy's Inn (near bustand), Mahajan guest house (near lakshmi narayan temple), and Chamba guest house (I don't know how to explain where to find this one heh)
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Madri - thanks for such a detailed reply.. very very useful! Looks like u r on a looong HP trip...

Good to know that my plan seems sensible

pls do give me the contact details of the hotel..how far is this from the main market/busstand?

thanks for the internet tip! hopefully will not have to go anywhere near the internet while on my trip

will also plan for the panchpulla trek.

couple of follow up questions:
  • how much time does the bus from dalhousie to dharamshala take?
  • what is the weather in the area like..if u can give indicative day and night temperatures, that will be very helpful!

Thanks again for sharing so much useful information!
Neeraj
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Neerajd,

- Bus from dalhousie to dharamsala takes like 7 hours but you also don't have too many options. You have more options from Chamba so you could also look at planning to leave from there. Also, check out this website...I use it all the time and is accurate for the most part and very helpful http://www.hrtc.gov.in/route.asp

- Days are hot and nights are cold...sorry I don't know temperatures...I just remember freezing at night and early morning having to buy two sweaters but walking around in a t-shirt late morning and afternoon. Do keep in mind I am from Chennai originally

- SOrry I seem to have lost the card for the hotel...but from the bus stand, ask anyone to direct you to Subash Chowk and from there anyone can tell you where the hotel is. Subash Chowk from the bus stand is a good 10 - 15 mins walk depending on your stamina levels since it goes uphill a bit.
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i will be in dalhousie for two days on 14th
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Thanks Madri - you have been a treasurehouse of information!

How long will u be in Dharamshala? Wondering if we can meet up sometime..

The temperature info is useful..Its exactly the fact that different people can have very different sensitivities to weather that i was looking for temperatures..but i think what u have said helps me..Am from Mumbai, so i guess our tolerance for cold will be similar(ly low)

No worries about the hotel info. I believe this is not peak season, so not too worried about finding a good hotel. Let me see if i can stay in Chamba for a day or so before proceeding to Dharamshala..that will also help me break up the long journey from Dalhouosie to Dharamshala..

Did you do the Triund trek? Is it doable for someone of (very) average fitness?

Cheers
Neeraj
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Skip staying in Dalhousie, go to Khajjiar. In Khajjiar avoid the HPTDC hotel, bargain with the private hotels and you will get a very good offer. After the day trippers leave you will have whole of Khajjiar to yourself.

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