Car trip to Spiti in mid of May, 2010 - Lots of questions.

#1 May 3rd, 2010, 17:25
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I'll be travelling to Kinnaur for work in the mid of May, 2010 (yes! for work!). Thought this time to extend the trip to include Spiti. As a next step, I read a lot about Spiti (and saw beautiful photographs). But when I came back to reality, I realized that there isn't enough time on my hands.

Now I know that no amount of time is enough for the mountains, but what I have with me are 9 days, out of which I'll be working on 1 - 2 days, which leaves me with about 7-8 days for Delhi to Spiti and back.

So here is a quick summary of my plan and the questions I have:

Plan
Dates: 15th May to 23rd May.
Mode of Travel: My i20 Diesel. Self-drive.
Route: Delhi-Shimla-Kinnaur-Spiti and the same route back to Delhi (because Kunzum la will be closed then, right?)

Rough itinerary:
Day 1: Start from Delhi early morning. Break at Murthal & Kiarighat (for chicken cutlets!). Reach Narkanda by late-afternoon. Stay there (or should I make it to Thanedar?).

Day 2: Start early morning, reach Chhitkul by afternoon (or will it take longer?). Stay there (stay options will be open as of then?).

Day 3: Start early morning. Breakfast at Sangla. Reach Karchham in 2 - 2.5 hours. Stop for work there. Stay in company guest-house.

Day 4: Continue working (sigh!). Try to finish it off by lunch. If I am able to escape from there by Lunch, I'll head towards Spiti. (Where can I make a night halt?)

Day 5: Start from Karchham/ night-halt-place. Drive to Kaza. Pray for Malling Nallah to be traversable. Click lot of photographs en-route! Can I reach Kaza before dark? I'd rather stay in Tabo/ Dhankar Monastery than Kaza. Possible? What is the available accomodation?

Day 6: Here is where my desires really start to take over. So .. I want to visit Ki, Kibber, Komic, Langza, and may be drive upto Losar as well. . I am interested in seeing (and clicking) great views & the people of Spiti, but I'll like to do justice to wherever I visit (ok .. a little justice maybe!). What is possible? What to drop? Also, should I stay in Kaza?. Where else can I stay?

Day 7: Visit a few more places maybe. Then start heading back. Stay at some place from where Delhi can be managed in 2 days.

Day 8: Head back.

Day 9: Reach Delhi by night fall. Curse the weather silently, and make people jealous by telling them about the weather in Spiti!

So that is the basic plan. Now the questions .

Questions
1. Where should I stay on Day 1? Narkanda/ Thanedar/ some place else?
2. If I start early enough (like at 5-6), any idea when can I expect to reach Chhitkul? Will I find stay options there?
3. If I do manage to start from Karchham by say 1-2 pm, where can I make a night halt? (I wouldn't like to drive in the hills after dark).
4. If I start from Karchham, early enough, can I make it to Kaza before dark?
5. Where can I stay on Day 5? Dhankar Monastery? Some hotel?
6. What can I realistically do on day 6 & 7 and enjoy it?
7. Where can I stay on Day 6?
8. Where do I halt on day 7?

9. I am a foodie. . If you know any place that serves any dish worth it's rupees, kindly let me know. If the locals make something that is tasty, please let me know too!


Thanks for reading such an incredibley long post and thanks again if you indeed now feel like helping me.
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#2 May 3rd, 2010, 18:29
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Buddy if you don't mind, can I contribute a few just from knowledge gathered from this forum, I would go there exactly after a month from your journey so would actually take your inputs

But the questions those are within my syllabus let me try:

Disclaimer: I don't have any idea where i20 could face problem specially considering quite heavy premonsoon rain this year. Accuweather shows an almost wet Spiti in first half of May. Some expert advice you might require there.

2. If I start early enough (like at 5-6), any idea when can I expect to reach Chhitkul? Will I find stay options there?

From Narkanda, would you be taking NH22 or old hindustan tibet road via Dharanghati pass? Normal logic says if Sarahan is not your next destination, may be that detour would be too much but otherwise it's a scenic route, with your passion for photography you might enjoy.

Narkanda - Sarahan (3.5 hrs via NH22 and 7 hours via dharanghati)
Sarahan - Chitkul (6 hours)

So if you take NH22, don't consider 13 km off from jeori to Sarahan. It would give you an estimate.

Stay at chitkul should be opened, not only opened I guess you should see quite a few tourists as summer holidays are on, Panchali GH runs by a Kolkata agency, their people already reached there when I spoken to them last month.

3. If I do manage to start from Karchham by say 1-2 pm, where can I make a night halt? (I wouldn't like to drive in the hills after dark).

Again I believe even if you don't take a detour of Ropa valley, you would be surely stopping at Nako Lake and may be interested about that Lama with growing hair in Giu? In that case surely you could eat 12 hours to reach Tabo. Most probably logical halt but if you have time and don't mind homestay can try in Mane (further 20km from Tabo, not sure abt exact distance), heard very scenic and may worth for a perfect sunrise next day.

4. If I start from Karchham, early enough, can I make it to Kaza before dark?

The answer is with last question (just check sun set time to understand how long you get a day)

5. Where can I stay on Day 5? Dhankar Monastery? Some hotel?
6. What can I realistically do on day 6 & 7 and enjoy it?
7. Where can I stay on Day 6?
8. Where do I halt on day 7?

All related, now depends on how you plan.

Can be start from Mane, come back to SH30, take left in attarago for PIN valley, drive to Kungri, Mud or the new roads voyager referred in the similar Spiti thread that I posted and if you like PIN stay 6th Night there, (People say Pin is different than rest of Spiti and I get completely different views, either very good or not worth at all kind, so interesting it seems). If you don't like, come back to SH30 and go up towards Lingti Valley, upto Lallung (would find nice homestay) else can drive upto Dhankar (Lallung to Dhankar is jeepable without touching SH30 again) and stay there in monastery or homestay again. Can go for early morning Dhankar Lake trek. Lingti Valley too is very scenic as I got the feedback, actually whole Spiti is scenic.
Day 7 you would start from Dhankar / Pin and come back to Tabo, see the monastery and then head back towards same route may be till Rampur.

Other option would be Day 5, push to Kaza and stay. Start Day6 early and go for Kye/Kibber/tashigang/chichim and then langza/Komic/Demul. Preferably stay 6th night in some of these places and then hopefully take some best of the world snaps of Spiti Valley in early morning sun (ofcourse then post here)

Day 7 in that case would be from Kaza and more difficult than option 1 if you still try to touch Tabo.

May be as you are minimum one day short than that it is required, How about leave Kaza for next time when Kunzum would be open , also Malling factor would be there.

Not sure if this could help you but based on the idea of the places I got here, I am trying to put up something. BTW have I not given you an equally long answer if not longer
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Thanks a lot kshil!

Too much info ... o_O
I didn't know about Ropa Valley & Lingti Valley. Let me do some research and also go through your thread, then I'll re-plan.

And I know it has been raining hard in Spiti. I was hoping that that rains get over by 15th May.
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Yes username_x, you would get quite valueable info in the other post by many IMers.

Ropa valley would come in your left while going to Karcham to Tabo in between Spillo and Pooh in your left. It's the start of trek for 2 famous pass of HP Ghunsarang and Manirang Pass crossing those you would reach in Mane Village (That I mentioned) of Spiti.

Lingti, is North-East part of Spiti, you would get right turn towards Lingti from SH30 while going towards Kaza.

Yeah weather is a real spoiler it seems, Accu doesn't show a single sunny day in Kaza between 4th and 18th May, all other types like rain/shower/thundershower/snow are present though, but when I was looking into Last 5 years rainfall chart, I found April and May as the very wet months comparing to June/July/Aug. So weather should improve as you said, we all hope for that.
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Originally Posted by kshil View Post Accu doesn't show a single sunny day in Kaza between 4th and 18th May ...
That is why I'll be reaching there on 19th

But jokes apart .. I know I need to have a Plan B, in case weather does not permit a foray into the Spiti Valley ... what with the Malling nalah coming into play and all ..

So as of now ... I have decided that I'll take it as it comes ...
No use micro-planning now and then see it all go haywire in the trip ..

So .. I am just collecting all the info regarding distances, petrol pumps, time estimates, stay options etc. and preparing my car and all .. and that is that. Not doing any itinerary planning any more ..
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I agree with you, in these places micro planning won't work, but you should have ample information in your finger tips to come out with plan B, C, D ... whatever is required on the spot without much waiting. I sincerely believe in those cases the extra information helps otherwise almost everyone has a broad high level itinerary to follow.

Regarding self drive, distance, alternative routes, fuels, essential for you and car I am sure you have checked Team-BHP site, I found few very well made excel with all these information uploaded there.

Cheers
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Finally leaving Delhi day after tomorrow. The trip may get shortened by a day, meaning now I'll have only 8 days.

One small question. I plan to start from Delhi at around 6 AM. I hope to reach somewhere near Rampur on Day 1. Can you suggest some good accommodation there? Anything other than HPTDC hotel?

@Kshil: I found the excel file too. A bit too elaborate though, I think. But pretty comprehensive piece of information.
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@Kshil: I found the excel file too. A bit too elaborate though, I think. But pretty comprehensive piece of information.
Have you got the execl in TBHP? In that case it's good one, have quite a lot of information, though I found there are 2 version of that excel, one is little more elaborative.

Anyway update the excel when you will be back and share with us

I was reading in himvani that NH22 is cut off after Peo, Do you know the current status?

Wish you a nice and safe trip and expect some stunning snaps.

Cheers
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Originally Posted by kshil View Post Have you got the execl in TBHP? In that case it's good one, have quite a lot of information, though I found there are 2 version of that excel, one is little more elaborative.

Anyway update the excel when you will be back and share with us

I was reading in himvani that NH22 is cut off after Peo, Do you know the current status?

Wish you a nice and safe trip and expect some stunning snaps.

Cheers
Yes. From TBHP. Though a little too much information. A lot of things that guy intended to carry didn't make any sense to me. And I am not the guy who compiles Excel files after the trip.

Yeah .. I read that HimVani article too .. worrisome .. let's see what happens ..

EDIT: Downloaded that from BCMT. For anyone interested, click here.

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