Goa taxi drivers attitude since price rises - Just read this!!!

#1 May 28th, 2012, 23:13
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Thought members here would be interested, even shocked, by this post on another forum:

http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowTop..._this-Goa.html

Wondering if any Indian nationals* visiting Goa have had such experiences since fuel/taxi prices went up recently?
(*i.e. not 'whites' as the taxi driver quoted referred to non-Indians)
#2 May 28th, 2012, 23:39
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The Goa taxi mafia have just found another way to screw visitors.
The majority don't need a reason, it's in their blood, I remember trying to arrange a taxi (or auto) to pick me up at 5 in the morning in Palolem for the short journey to Cancona station, I think they decided that I was to feed their families for the next year, and to a man, they all stuck to the same price, and as I didn't know my way around, I paid it, but I was fuming when I realised just how close the station was.
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The idiots don't realise that they would be busy if they turned on their meters. But then who wants to work?

GoanGoan......here & there..Goa
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I find them expensive too, but already this thread is turning into a lot of stereotyping.

Many of them are hard working and honest, the proof being from owning small Marutis they now 2-3 cars including Innovas, you don't get that without a modicum of hard work..

In Patnem/Palolem I sometimes get picked up for free if I'm standing waiting for the bus to Chaudi or Palolem/Patnem. By guys I've known for a while but have never actually used their taxi..Some who I used a lot back in the day just see me as a walking wallet and I don't use em any more.

Prices compared to the rest of India are very high it's true, but I notice a trend in thinking, that as tourists we should always be the benefactors of the lowest common denominator, from restaurants to lodgings, taxis to rickshaws. We seem to think that anyone pulling away from the super cheap is somehow robbing us...Hmmm anybody want to go back to their 1970's wages here..As when we expect everything to stay cheap to benefit our stay, we are asking people do exactly that, not see any upward mobility in their lifestyles..
I feel it's a bit selfish to expect Indian tradesmen to see our budget needs as the criteria for their businesses.
As I've pointed out many many times Indians have hopes and aspirations too..Is it wrong for them to want A new house, 3/4 kids, scooters for the wife, flatscreen televisions etc etc.
Undoubtedly there's probably a balance that taxi drivers have tipped in their favour in Goa and in the long run they will chase business away I think, but I guess the attitude is milk it while you can....Not a unknown human trait(credit crunch anyone)

Taxi drivers have likely taken this too far In Goa and have become overly greedy but it's a short season and there are too many taxis. So most go for the fast money, what would you do in their situation?
Don't most of us want a extra few bob in our pockets...
Taxi drivers elsewhere in India I know lead very austere lives, (generally speaking) doing long hours seven days a week for little reward, often living in at best cramped conditions, away from with little scope for moving their lives upwards.
That's the price they pay for remaining "cheap"

I know a few taxi drivers in Goa very well, and they work damn hard to bring a better life to a extended family of mum dad, brother sisters and offspring, and they charge the going rate (read high by the standards of greater India) but they are good drivers professional and on time.
The market drives the prices and those who genuinely can't afford or indeed don't want to pay these prices find ways to avoid using them.

Then of course you have rogues like the one mentioned, who have entitlement issues and bring danger to the roads in their quest for cash, and employ daylight robbery around five star and remote resorts..

But not all of them are like this, some work hard and for right or wrong want rewards that go beyond fish curry rice and a old TV from here to eternity. I for one don't blame them for that.

P.S. I didn't notice them putting down the prices when they got their VAT cut

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45-55 Euro from Schipol Airport to home 21 Kilometers..same route difference of 10 Euro.... Hoe Kan dat nou?(how can that be) same old same old...
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I think you'll find that the hotels or the mafia bosses buy the Innovas and charge rent. I doubt if many are privately owned. I know a few who charge "reasonable" rates and they are the busiest. I know plenty who look for one big rip off for a day's work and play cards and drink the rest of the day.

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I can think of at least 10 guys who I know who own innovas GGG in and around Palolem
But the south is I realise a bit different from the north, it's not resort land after Cavelossim.
So not arguing with your point of view..

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I know plenty who look for one big rip off for a day's work and play cards and drink the rest of the day.

One run then the pub....Gies a job LOL
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A serious question.....is there any reason why a taxi can be more expensive in Goa, compared to Karnataka?

I assume the fuel price is the same, is a licence (to carry tourists) more expensive? or does it cost more (in state border crossing charges) to do a return trip to Karnataka (from Goa) than the other way round?

Is there a higher car tax (general annual, or for buying new/2nd hand car) in Goa?

Are Goa taxi drivers expected to give the police more when an 'infringement' is spotted?

There's a reason I ask.

Last year we got off a Goa bound train early and went to Gokarna, wonderful place, would have loved to spend more time, but we'd just left a Rs20,000 room in Kerala, and it's amazing how poor those beach shacks look after that, so we climbed back up the where the autos are and asked about getting to Palolem, at Gokarna you're really stuck, away from everything and at the mercy of the auto drivers, so I really expected to be stung, but I thought of it in terms of our last hotel and just decided to pay whatever was asked and forget about it.

An auto driver offered to take us to his brother (a taxi driver) a few km away, and his brother would take us to Palolem, a total charge of Rs1600, I was kind of surprised at the low charge, but I've never had a taxi/auto problem in coastal Karnataka.

Over the next 8 days I must have asked 10 Palolem taxi drivers how much they charged for a Gokarna drop, one said Rs1800 (and quickly changed to 1900), all the rest said either 1900 or 2000.

Could it be that the Karnataka price was set and no negotiating, and the Goa price was high to be negotiated lower? (I give up trying this in Goa a few years ago)
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I assume the fuel price is the same,
Fuel prices in Goa are the lowest in the country, thanks to local taxes being lower. Much lower, actually.

That aside, I am amused by a snarky remark on Indian tourists in the tripadvisor thread. I will wager this Indian tourist spends a lot more on taxis in Goa per trip than most western backpackers do in a month. Equally true that I go with reasonable rates,fixed beforehand at the hotel- despite the many attempts made to rip me off. Foreigners usually will know less in any country, and tend to get ripped off more; some homework may help.
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I was wondering the same steven I don't know specifically if there's corruption at play in the the licensing of Taxis in Goa but I do know there is for almost eveything else.

Cap'n, backpackers on TA I don't think so LOL

going to look for snarky remark now. But i know there are lots of people on TA especially those who are frequent package tourists, (and backpakies too) hold themselves in rather high regard as to their worth to India's economy....
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According to local press and reports from Goa, the price of fuel was cut by Rs11/litre a few weeks ago, but taxi prices remained the same. Last week, the price was raised by Rs7/litre, so is now still lower that before the reduction. However, in view of the rise, taxi fares are reported to have been raised by 10%.
Work that one out.
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Try finding a taxi out of season in Goa, specifically through the monsoon. All those thousands (not hyperbole) that clog the roads throughout the tourist seasons simply disappear off the face of the earth for 5 months.
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In my sporadic experience, flagging down a taxi in Goa is asking for trouble. Much better to fix everything beforehand, to avoid the inevitable shake-down/face-off.

I wonder who actually pays them the rates they ask, except for unsuspecting or drunk tourists, whether domestic or foreign.
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Originally Posted by steven_ber View Post A serious question.....is there any reason why a taxi can be more expensive in Goa, compared to Karnataka?

I assume the fuel price is the same, is a licence (to carry tourists) more expensive? or does it cost more (in state border crossing charges) to do a return trip to Karnataka (from Goa) than the other way round?

Is there a higher car tax (general annual, or for buying new/2nd hand car) in Goa?
The main reason why taxis tend to be more expensive in Goa as compared to other states is the fact that the salary of a taxi driver in Goa is higher. Right now all across Goa there are many taxis sitting idle because there is absolutely no one willing to drive them. You may find this hard to believe but right now there is a shortage of taxi drivers in Goa although there are surplus taxis.

A friend of mine in Goa is having a hard time because he does not have enough drivers for the 5 taxis he owns. He is ready to pay above average salaries but it is very difficult to find any one suitable. The demands of the drivers are also impossible to meet.

Most of the drivers are not willing to work beyond sunset and they do not like to start early. They also expect the owner of the taxi to ignore their lack of punctuality. The taxi drivers in the coastal belt are by far the worst of the lot because many of them have been pampered by the European tourists. If you go to Panjim, Mapusa, Margao the cabbies tend to be better.
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Originally Posted by qifitness View Post According to local press and reports from Goa, the price of fuel was cut by Rs11/litre a few weeks ago, but taxi prices remained the same. Last week, the price was raised by Rs7/litre, so is now still lower that before the reduction. However, in view of the rise, taxi fares are reported to have been raised by 10%.
Work that one out.

You have to keep in mind that only gasoline(petrol) prices were decreased last month. Diesel prices are the same. The rate charged by the taxi driver does not depend on what type of fuel is used by the taxi. Diesel is cheaper but diesel taxis are more expensive to buy and maintain. CNG is not available in Goa like it is in Mumbai and Delhi.
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Generally speaking labour is more expensive in Goa by about 20%.

There is also a shortage of waiters and cooks in Goa due to the NREGA.

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