Visa from England (I am french but working in England)

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Hello everybody,

As I have to wait for applying to a new visa (1 month mandatory after the expiry of my last visa February 24th), I kind run out of time.

I can only apply on March 24th and because I am a french passport holder (instead of a uk passport holder) the india visa website tell me that it take 15 working days minimum to process above the other usual procesing time.

I already set my travel date with my employer thinking it would be ok: April 17th.

but if it really takes 15 working days then it is not possible.
in France I had the experience of having to wait no more than 1 day processing time while they indicated on their website a minimum of 10 days (I was using postal service).

So I would like to know if some people have experience with such issue (being a non uk passport holder applying in UK) and what is the usual processing time?


I am also thinking to send it to France directly instead and wait 10 working days (but hopping it would take only 1 days as before) and my parents would then send the passport received at their address back to me.

In this case, would they accept my application (in France) knowing that I m currently in England?
Can they realy know?
Can I say that I am residing in France (my job in england is quite recent, 1 month)?


Thank you in advance for your help,

Oort
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Interestingly on the processing time web page http://in.vfsglobal.co.uk/processing-time.aspx there is:

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Applications in the following cases may take longer (minimum 7-8 weeks or more) to be processed:
Non-UK passport holders residing in the UK for less than one year. (minimum 15 working days).
Nationals or origin of Pakistan (Minimum 7-8 weeks)
Nationals of Sri Lanka, China, Bangladesh, Afghanistan (Minimum 15 working days)
Where clearance from India is mandatory.
while on the required document page: http://in.vfsglobal.co.uk/documents.aspx
there is:

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9. A non-UK national who has been a resident of the UK for less than one year:

Need to fill in an Additional information form along with the general visa application form and must posses a valid UK visa or relevant permission from UKBA to re-enter the UK . Please note that there will be an additional charge of 10 per passport towards the High commission of India referral fee.
Please note: Your application may require a minimum of five working days to get processed.
And on the extra document we can read:

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WE SHALL BE GRATEFUL IF YOU COULD KINDLY CONVEY YOUR CLEARANCE /
NO OBJECTION IF ANY TO ISSUE THE VISA.
IF NO REPLY IS RECEIVED WITHIN 72 HOURS
AS PER INSTRUCTION, VISA WILL BE ISSUED AFTER LOCAL CHECKS.

So considering that the french do not reply in the required 72 hours, how long does the local check should take?

Would it be 5 days as written on the required document page or 15 working days as written on the proceesing time page?


Any experience with that?
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So considering that the french do not reply in the required 72 hours, how long does the local check should take?

Would it be 5 days as written on the required document page or 15 working days as written on the proceesing time page?


Any experience with that?
Why dont you just take a Eurostar to Paris and apply from there ?
http://www.vfs-in-fr.com/
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Originally Posted by nycank View Post Why dont you just take a Eurostar to Paris and apply from there ?
http://www.vfs-in-fr.com/
I'd second that suggestion! If you don't have an address is France just think one up.
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Would my parent address be sufficient. All the time I used this one but now that I am working in the UK would it be ok?

If that is ok, I would send my application by post from england and my parent would send my passport back to me,

But I would prefer to do it in England if I could know whether it takes 5 or 15 working days?

Eurostar is not a option as I am working during the week.
And it would mean that I would have to go two times (one for giving the application and one for taking it)
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Originally Posted by oohazard View Post Would my parent address be sufficient. All the time I used this one but now that I am working in the UK would it be ok?
You may get away with posting your application to France and having your parents submit a visa application for you there, but no it is definitely not okay. Firstly you would be lying about your address. Secondly, while I have not researched the French Indian Embassy site, on the UK site it is made clear that you must be in the country when you apply.

It is all very easy for people to glibly say "sure, cheat the system" but if you are found to have lied on a visa application form, you can pretty much kiss goodbye to your chances of getting this or any future Indian visas.

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But I would prefer to do it in England if I could know whether it takes 5 or 15 working days?
It will probably take about ten working days if you submit your application in person and collect it in person, but the reality is that it will simply take as long as it takes and nobody either on this site or at VFS or at the HCI will be able to tell you exactly how long it will take to process.
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I took a look at the eurostar option and with the visa emergency option if I can have one day off my job, it could be indeed a good option, even if a little waste of money.

Few question remains about this option:

In emergency I can make it in one day but Eurostar arrive only at 8:50 AM

The emergency office open hours are:
8:00AM - 11:00AM

Would eurostar be in time and would 9:30 (the time I think I will reach the passport office) be enough to be served (how long are the queue usually? I have never been there, I should probably ask on a french forum, but if anyone knows here, let me know.)

Secondly, in this case, going in person, I will not require to say that I am in England, can I just give my address of my parents as i did for the last time?

Thank you for your help
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Cross posting with Haylo I was taking a shower before submiting the precedent reply

Haylo, do you think in this case to go to Paris would make me lying?

If I am in Paris, what address should I put on my application?
if I say England, would they told me to apply in England?


Note that for most thing I still give my french address, it is my permanent address as I moved very recently to England (28th Jannuary) and will move next month again (still in England though) (my current place is too small for me and my wife (who will be coming from India after we come together here)
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Originally Posted by oohazard View Post Haylo, do you think in this case to go to Paris would make me lying?

If I am in Paris, what address should I put on my application?
if I say England, would they told me to apply in England?
Applying in person in Paris would be very different from posting your application, and unless you have been resident abroad for a year, it will be far quicker to apply in person in Paris - if as you say they have an emergency service. I'm not familiar with the emergency visa service, so do make sure it's available in your case and that it's not reserved for provable emergencies such as death or illness in the family.

You really should put your current address on your visa application and I'd be wary of telling you it would be okay to put your old address, but as you are applying in France and your French address is still active, the chances are virtually nil of there being a problem.
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Originally Posted by oohazard View Post I took a look at the eurostar option and with the visa emergency option if I can have one day off my job, it could be indeed a good option, even if a little waste of money.

Few question remains about this option:

In emergency I can make it in one day but Eurostar arrive only at 8:50 AM

The emergency office open hours are:
8:00AM - 11:00AM

Would eurostar be in time and would 9:30 (the time I think I will reach the passport office) be enough to be served (how long are the queue usually? I have never been there, I should probably ask on a french forum, but if anyone knows here, let me know.)

Secondly, in this case, going in person, I will not require to say that I am in England, can I just give my address of my parents as i did for the last time?

Thank you for your help
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Originally Posted by oohazard View Post Cross posting with Haylo I was taking a shower before submiting the precedent reply

Haylo, do you think in this case to go to Paris would make me lying?

If I am in Paris, what address should I put on my application?
if I say England, would they told me to apply in England?


Note that for most thing I still give my french address, it is my permanent address as I moved very recently to England (28th Jannuary) and will move next month again (still in England though) (my current place is too small for me and my wife (who will be coming from India after we come together here)
Emergency option, if I am not mistaken only applies for grave illness, death in the family and serious matters. I do not think you should be under an illusion that it will apply t o normal tourist matters like holidays.

Yes, I think you can give permanent address of your parents. Typically non residents visa processing will take time. Since you are not a resident in UK, I doubt you would technically qualify to processing in UK.
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Originally Posted by nycank View Post Emergency option, if I am not mistaken only applies for grave illness, death in the family and serious matters. I do not think you should be under an illusion that it will apply t o normal tourist matters like holidays.
The reason I'm not sure about this is that we know that every Embassy will issue emergency visas in cases of illness etc, but the French actually have a separate "Urgent visa" counter which is pretty rare and seems a different thing from the usual Emergency visas we're all aware of.

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French VFS Processing Times:
URGENT APPLICATION PROCEDURE:
The urgent application procedure is only possible for the holders of a French passport applying at the urgent counter of the India Visa Application Centre in Paris (timings and conditions to consult on the page In Paris). An application submitted in the morning as part of the urgent applications procedure will be returned from the Embassy of India on the same evening. You will also be required to pay the additional fees of the " Urgent service ".

Please note that the urgent application procedure is not possible if:
  • You hold a foreign passport
  • You hold a travel document
  • You hold a French passport but are of Sri Lankan, Pakistani, Chinese, Bangladeshi or Afghan origin
  • You are applying for an Employment visa or a Journalist visa
The urgent application procedure is highly recommended to any applicant having a close departure, having already purchased a plane ticket or needing his passport urgently for other travels.
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Originally Posted by Haylo View Post The reason I'm not sure about this is that we know that every Embassy will issue emergency visas in cases of illness etc, but the French actually have a separate "Urgent visa" counter which is pretty rare and seems a different thing from the usual Emergency visas we're all aware of.
Excellent find !!! But if his ticket is ex-London then ? It is worth a try... I'm sure this option is an exception true only to Paris.
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Originally Posted by nycank View Post It is worth a try... I'm sure this option is an exception true only to Paris.
Yes, there's not a sniff of "Urgent visas" being available in the UK, though I'm sure many Brits would be prepared pay a lot more for that service. Travisa in the States do a same day service for US citizens only.
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Originally Posted by nycank View Post Excellent find !!! But if his ticket is ex-London then ? It is worth a try... I'm sure this option is an exception true only to Paris.
The Indian Embassy in Berlin still has it; the Consulate General at Frankfurt had it till they outsourced their application process.
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To be more clear:
I have a job in the Uk since february 1st, for this job I gave my UK address. I applied to a national insurance number with this address (but I did not receive yet the national insurance number). I also gave my UK address (as well as my french address if I remember coreectly) to my new bank (but I have other banks in France with my Parent's address).

I guess I am kind of resident in the UK but for Paris, I do not know what address do they ask (There is no access to the visa form except from the online version that I do not want to start now). If they ask both permanent address and current address, I think i would put my parent's address as the permanent address and my UK address as my current address.
If they ask only one address, I guess I have a choice...

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