Surrendering Indian passport and applying for OCI from India

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I’m writing in to find out a few details about surrendering my Indian passport in India. A couple of days ago I was granted citizenship of and EU country by descent. I’m 32 years old. My passport will be here in the next 14 days and would subsequently surrender my Indian passport at the office in Pune. I haven’t travelled on my Indian passport and don’t intend to either since I got my new citizenship. Do I need to pay any fines since I have acquired citizenship while living in India? If so how much is it? Do I need to write an affidavit of some sort for surrendering my passport or is filling out the form online and visiting the office sufficient?
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Originally Posted by neven13 View Post Hi,
I’m writing in to find out a few details about surrendering my Indian passport in India. A couple of days ago I was granted citizenship of and EU country by descent. I’m 32 years old. My passport will be here in the next 14 days and would subsequently surrender my Indian passport at the office in Pune. I haven’t travelled on my Indian passport and don’t intend to either since I got my new citizenship. Do I need to pay any fines since I have acquired citizenship while living in India? If so how much is it? Do I need to write an affidavit of some sort for surrendering my passport or is filling out the form online and visiting the office sufficient?
Many thanks
Hi

In my case I recollect that the fine for surrendering the passport was Rs 5000. At the RPO the process was not very structured but quite simple. I did not have to write any affidavit but had to provide a simple cover letter. There was no online form for this at the time I did it. However for OCI the proces is more structured as I described.

Hope this helps.
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Applying for Indian visa after surrendering Indian Passport in India

Hello Wolf80,

I read your, very informative post on process to surrender Indian Passport of children, then apply for X visa and then apply for OCI.

Here I have a question. What type of visa is X visa ?

I did not see any option for X visa. The following options would serve the purpose before applying for OCT

'Entry visa'
'Long term visa'

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Originally Posted by drxiva View Post I did not see any option for X visa. The following options would serve the purpose before applying for OCT

'Entry visa'
'Long term visa'
Entry Visa is known as X visa.
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Originally Posted by neven13 View Post Hi,
I’m writing in to find out a few details about surrendering my Indian passport in India. A couple of days ago I was granted citizenship of and EU country by descent. I’m 32 years old. My passport will be here in the next 14 days and would subsequently surrender my Indian passport at the office in Pune. I haven’t travelled on my Indian passport and don’t intend to either since I got my new citizenship. Do I need to pay any fines since I have acquired citizenship while living in India? If so how much is it? Do I need to write an affidavit of some sort for surrendering my passport or is filling out the form online and visiting the office sufficient?
Many thanks
Dear Neven,

I am in the same situation as you were in Jul. I also live in Pune.
I have acquired Canadian Citizenship through Descent and have received a Canadian Passport.
Recently, I got a surrender certificate and have applied for an entry visa through the e-frro portal.

I wanted to ask you about how much time it took you to get the entry visa from PUNE FRO?
And what was the procedure there on For OCI?

Kindly let me know.

Thanks
Siddhant
#21 Nov 28th, 2018, 18:49
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Dear Sid,
For the Indian X Visa, it took 4 weeks, because it was the festive season so there were many holidays in between and there was a delay to have the police come to the house for verification. It took the FRO 2 weeks to send one of their constables to do a verification, where he checks if you have traveled on your indian passport as well as your foreign passport. I also needed to write a cover letter stating exactly what he came to check (if I had traveled or not). If that is clear then he forwards the file to whoever is next. They kept insisting that i take a one year X Visa, which i refused, because i would apply immediately for an OCI. They weren't too happy about it. So i got the 6 month X Visa.

As for the OCI, you need to go to https://ociservices.gov.in/welcome
fill in a new registration. I did my OCI application submission through the FRRO in Bombay. I'm not sure they do OCIs in Pune. You will need to ask.
Make sure you have your photo in the correct spec as well as all the documents that you will use as proof to support your claim for an OCI. Also pls have a scanned digital copy of your signature.
After the form is completed, pls print it. Prepare a DD of 15000 RS (needs to be either from you or one of your parents, incase you arent working yet). Take all your supporting documents and copies of them along with the form and photos with the DD for submission to the FRO. They check if everything is in order and hand you your originals and a receipt. Then you just have to wait till they contact you, incase they need a police verification or anything else or they may just contact you when the OCI is ready to be picked up.

Let me know how it goes or if you need anything else.
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Originally Posted by wolf80 View Post I have seen many posts here regarding applying for OCI card via India. I thought I will share my recent experiences which may be of some help to others.

Background:
• 2 minor children born in India and hold Indian passports
• Father is an OCI card holder
• Mother holds Indian passport
• All reside in India
• Children recently received their foreign passports and need to apply for OCI status

How to proceed?
1. Surrender Indian passport & get surrender certificate.
2. Apply for X visa through FRRO.
3. Apply for OCI card through FRRO.


Now I will describe the above steps in more detail.
Step 1- Surrender Indian passport & get surrender certificate:• Go to the Regional Passport Office to surrender the Indian passport (not passport Seva Kendra!), I went to the one in Koramangala.
• Take a token and be prepared for a long wait until your number is called.
• Surrender Indian passports along with a covering letter.
• Pay a processing fee of Rs. 5000 per passport by cash. If you have travelled after getting foreign passport there may be additional penalties.
• Collect surrender certificate on the same or next day. Indian passports will be stamped as cancelled and returned to you.
• The presence of children is not required.
Step 2- Apply for X visa through FRRO:
• You cannot directly apply for the OCI card, you need a valid visa which regularizes your stay in the country before you can apply for the OCI card.
• Go to the FRRO website and fill out the on line appointment cum application form.
• Upload a scanned copy of required documents & photos on their website.
• Take the appointment confirmation & required documents with you to FRRO.
• Get a token at the entrance and wait for your turn.
• The immigration officer will verify all your documents and if everything is in order he will give you an acknowledgement saying your case is forwarded to MHA Delhi.
• The presence of the children is required as they will take a photograph there itself.
• This is acknowledgement is sufficient for your children to stay in the country, do not worry.
• In my case it took approximately 3 months until the approved visa came from MHA. I did not have to travel to Delhi unlike what some people have mentioned on this website.
• This wait can be an agonizing as you cannot check the status of your visa online. Even FRRO cannot help much as the case needs to be approved in Delhi. There is an e-mail ID which you can write to but they always send back a 1 line reply ''your application is under process''.
• Once your visa arrives in FRRO they will mail you.
• Go there and they will tell you the prescribed fees. Prepare the DD, submit it and collect the visa.
• The visa on the foreign passport will only be a rubber stamp by FRRO and not a sticker visa. The actual visa is a paper print out which you need to keep safely and carry with you while travelling abroad.
Step 3- Apply for OCI card through FRRO:
• Fill out the online OCI application forms & print 2 copies.
• Ensure that the 2 photos you take are in the 50X50 mm format.
• Prepare a DD for Rs. 15000 per OCI application.
• Go to FRRO with 2 sets of all the forms, documents and photos.
• For OCI application no need to take an appointment online, just go to the reception and take a token.
• The presence of both parents & children is required.
• After they scrutinize the documents they will accept the application if all is in order and give you an acknowledgement.
• They asked me to prepare an affidavit stating that my children were never citizen's of Pakistan. I found this absurd as my children were born in India and held Indian passports! They will provide you with the prescribed format for the affidavit. This can be done in Mayo hall.
• After they accept the OCI application there will be an address verification by the local police who will come to your place.
• I'm told there is another clearance which the FRRO seeks from the Indian embassy in the foreign country. This is something like a background check and takes time.
• Once this is done all you have to do is wait. You can check your status online anytime. In my case it took exactly 66 days from date of submission till I collected the OCI cards and visa.

Recommended list of documents to carry (not an exhaustive list):
• Children's foreign passports
• Children's Indian passports
• Surrender certificates of Indian passports
• Birth certificates of children
• Parent's passports (and OCI card where applicable)
• Marriage certificate of parents
• 2 address proofs
• Relevant application forms & photos in prescribed format.
• 2 copies of all the above.
• Fees in the form of DD or cash.

I hope this has been of help to all anxious parents. Don't worry, in general FRRO officials are more helpful than other government offices. I never paid a bribe. Only the wait and running about for documents was a pain.


Hi ,

Thanks for detailed information . I like to clarify some doubts. My child is canadian citizen would be visiting india on tourist visa along with mother who is a indian citizen and pr of canada. she wants to apply oci for my daughter in india.

1. Father of child also canadian citizen but still not surrendered my indian passport and no oci . Is it compulsory to get these before applying for minors?

2. Mother or father are not residents in india both in this case mother would be back in canada in 2 or 3 months. Is that a requirement we as a family should stay in india?

3. does this process finish by this time from FRRO hyd
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Originally Posted by sivudu View Post Hi ,

Thanks for detailed information . I like to clarify some doubts. My child is canadian citizen would be visiting india on tourist visa along with mother who is a indian citizen and pr of canada. she wants to apply oci for my daughter in india.

1. Father of child also canadian citizen but still not surrendered my indian passport and no oci . Is it compulsory to get these before applying for minors?

2. Mother or father are not residents in india both in this case mother would be back in canada in 2 or 3 months. Is that a requirement we as a family should stay in india?

3. does this process finish by this time from FRRO hyd
Hi

In your specific case, I very strongly recommend that both you and your child peacefully apply for OCI from Canada, once your wife and child are back. Based on my personal experience I have seen OCI issuance take from 30 days to 4 months. If I am not mistaken, the FRRO wont accept your OCI application from India unless you have a long term visa with a validity of at least 6 months. IMHO the entire process feels a bit smoother whilst applying from abroad. There is no local police verification involved, yes in some countries they ask for an extract of your criminal record which I assume is very easy to get abroad.


I was asked to produce my OCI card as one of the supporting documents. Therefore I suggest you also apply.


Hope this helps.
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Thanks, I am glad to hear my post helped others. Yes nycank is right (as he is most of the time!). It is the entry X visa you should choose.
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Dear Neven,

I am having problems with getting my Entry Visa.
Did the FRO ask you for a Form 'C' registration.

Kindly let me know.

Thanks
Sid
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Originally Posted by neven13 View Post Dear Sid,
For the Indian X Visa, it took 4 weeks, because it was the festive season so there were many holidays in between and there was a delay to have the police come to the house for verification. It took the FRO 2 weeks to send one of their constables to do a verification, where he checks if you have traveled on your indian passport as well as your foreign passport. I also needed to write a cover letter stating exactly what he came to check (if I had traveled or not). If that is clear then he forwards the file to whoever is next. They kept insisting that i take a one year X Visa, which i refused, because i would apply immediately for an OCI. They weren't too happy about it. So i got the 6 month X Visa.

As for the OCI, you need to go to https://ociservices.gov.in/welcome
fill in a new registration. I did my OCI application submission through the FRRO in Bombay. I'm not sure they do OCIs in Pune. You will need to ask.
Make sure you have your photo in the correct spec as well as all the documents that you will use as proof to support your claim for an OCI. Also pls have a scanned digital copy of your signature.
After the form is completed, pls print it. Prepare a DD of 15000 RS (needs to be either from you or one of your parents, incase you arent working yet). Take all your supporting documents and copies of them along with the form and photos with the DD for submission to the FRO. They check if everything is in order and hand you your originals and a receipt. Then you just have to wait till they contact you, incase they need a police verification or anything else or they may just contact you when the OCI is ready to be picked up.

Let me know how it goes or if you need anything else.
Dear Neven,

I am having problems with getting my Entry Visa.
Did the FRO ask you for a Form 'C' registration.

Kindly let me know.

Thanks
Sid
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Originally Posted by Sid0900 View Post Dear Neven,

I am having problems with getting my Entry Visa.
Did the FRO ask you for a Form 'C' registration.

Kindly let me know.

Thanks
Sid
Hi Sid,
Yes the Form C is a must because the Visa will be valid for six months and above regardless of whether you apply for and receive your OCI before the validity of your Visa runs out. It is also required to be shown for the police verification for the OCI at a later stage.
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Surrender Passport

What if you surrender in India after a year or so? Do they charge fine as well? if yes, how much?

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Surrender Passport

What if you surrender passport in India after a year or so? Do they charge fine as well? if yes, how much?

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I have another question , can i fill oci application submit online and show originals after 2 months.

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