Surrendering Indian passport and applying for OCI from India

#1 Nov 27th, 2014, 21:30
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I have seen many posts here regarding applying for OCI card via India. I thought I will share my recent experiences which may be of some help to others.

Background:
2 minor children born in India and hold Indian passports
Father is an OCI card holder
Mother holds Indian passport
All reside in India
Children recently received their foreign passports and need to apply for OCI status

How to proceed?
1. Surrender Indian passport & get surrender certificate.
2. Apply for X visa through FRRO.
3. Apply for OCI card through FRRO.


Now I will describe the above steps in more detail.
Step 1- Surrender Indian passport & get surrender certificate: Go to the Regional Passport Office to surrender the Indian passport (not passport Seva Kendra!), I went to the one in Koramangala.
Take a token and be prepared for a long wait until your number is called.
Surrender Indian passports along with a covering letter.
Pay a processing fee of Rs. 5000 per passport by cash. If you have travelled after getting foreign passport there may be additional penalties.
Collect surrender certificate on the same or next day. Indian passports will be stamped as cancelled and returned to you.
The presence of children is not required.
Step 2- Apply for X visa through FRRO:
You cannot directly apply for the OCI card, you need a valid visa which regularizes your stay in the country before you can apply for the OCI card.
Go to the FRRO website and fill out the on line appointment cum application form.
Upload a scanned copy of required documents & photos on their website.
Take the appointment confirmation & required documents with you to FRRO.
Get a token at the entrance and wait for your turn.
The immigration officer will verify all your documents and if everything is in order he will give you an acknowledgement saying your case is forwarded to MHA Delhi.
The presence of the children is required as they will take a photograph there itself.
This is acknowledgement is sufficient for your children to stay in the country, do not worry.
In my case it took approximately 3 months until the approved visa came from MHA. I did not have to travel to Delhi unlike what some people have mentioned on this website.
This wait can be an agonizing as you cannot check the status of your visa online. Even FRRO cannot help much as the case needs to be approved in Delhi. There is an e-mail ID which you can write to but they always send back a 1 line reply ''your application is under process''.
Once your visa arrives in FRRO they will mail you.
Go there and they will tell you the prescribed fees. Prepare the DD, submit it and collect the visa.
The visa on the foreign passport will only be a rubber stamp by FRRO and not a sticker visa. The actual visa is a paper print out which you need to keep safely and carry with you while travelling abroad.
Step 3- Apply for OCI card through FRRO:
Fill out the online OCI application forms & print 2 copies.
Ensure that the 2 photos you take are in the 50X50 mm format.
Prepare a DD for Rs. 15000 per OCI application.
Go to FRRO with 2 sets of all the forms, documents and photos.
For OCI application no need to take an appointment online, just go to the reception and take a token.
The presence of both parents & children is required.
After they scrutinize the documents they will accept the application if all is in order and give you an acknowledgement.
They asked me to prepare an affidavit stating that my children were never citizen's of Pakistan. I found this absurd as my children were born in India and held Indian passports! They will provide you with the prescribed format for the affidavit. This can be done in Mayo hall.
After they accept the OCI application there will be an address verification by the local police who will come to your place.
I'm told there is another clearance which the FRRO seeks from the Indian embassy in the foreign country. This is something like a background check and takes time.
Once this is done all you have to do is wait. You can check your status online anytime. In my case it took exactly 66 days from date of submission till I collected the OCI cards and visa.

Recommended list of documents to carry (not an exhaustive list):
Children's foreign passports
Children's Indian passports
Surrender certificates of Indian passports
Birth certificates of children
Parent's passports (and OCI card where applicable)
Marriage certificate of parents
2 address proofs
Relevant application forms & photos in prescribed format.
2 copies of all the above.
Fees in the form of DD or cash.

I hope this has been of help to all anxious parents. Don't worry, in general FRRO officials are more helpful than other government offices. I never paid a bribe. Only the wait and running about for documents was a pain.
#2 Nov 28th, 2014, 03:37
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Nice information, in Canada one set of papers and photo required. It is big amount to pay for Passport, surrunder certificate and OCI booklet. Thanks share with us.
Best Regards,
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Welcome to India Mike, @wolf80

That's a great wealth of information and it will be very helpful one.
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Kids passport picked by parents

Hello,

I need some urgent suggestions on this matter.Me and my wife are Indian citizens. My wife along with dependent kids applied for Canadian citizenship before leaving for India. Now she received call for Canadian citizenship ceremony. I would like to know whether my wife can go alone (kids will stay in India), to get their Canadian passports. Later on we will surrender the Indian passports of my kids and apply for OCI. The only issue is my kids are changing their citizenship status without going out of country.
Responses will be highly appreciated.
Thanks
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Hello,

I need some urgent suggestions on this matter.Me and my wife are Indian citizens. My wife along with dependent kids applied for Canadian citizenship before leaving for India. Now she received call for Canadian citizenship ceremony. I would like to know whether my wife can go alone (kids will stay in India), to get their Canadian passports. Later on we will surrender the Indian passports of my kids and apply for OCI. The only issue is my kids are changing their citizenship status without going out of country.
Responses will be highly appreciated.
Thanks
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I think you are going to cause yourself a great deal of trouble by doing this. I recently read elsewhere in these forums of a foreign student studying in India whose European mother sent him his new passport in the mail. He had a lot of problems when he tried to exit the country using a passport with no entry stamp.

As you said yourself, it will be a problem if they have passports that don't have a stamp for entering India. You should check with Indian immigration officials, but I think your children are going to have to go with your wife to Canada to collect their new passports.
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Originally Posted by parasharavinash View Post Hello,

I need some urgent suggestions on this matter.Me and my wife are Indian citizens. My wife along with dependent kids applied for Canadian citizenship before leaving for India. Now she received call for Canadian citizenship ceremony. I would like to know whether my wife can go alone (kids will stay in India), to get their Canadian passports. Later on we will surrender the Indian passports of my kids and apply for OCI. The only issue is my kids are changing their citizenship status without going out of country.
Responses will be highly appreciated.
Thanks
For Canadian Citizenship someone has to take oath and Citizenship granted. Adult has to attend ceremony. For kids I am not sure, they have to present there or Hon'ble Judge granted citizenship card to parents. But someone has to returned Canadian Permanent Resident card before entering Citizenship oath ceremony.

In your case you are trying to save airfare for kids, as you aware if your wife will get citizenship cards for kids then have to returned kids PR cards. On Indian passport your kids can not be enter in Canada without PR Card, in that case they need Canadian visa or Canadian passport. Or you can deal with Indian official to get OCI or other paper work within India. If your kids not like to travel to Canada right now you can apply other date for citizenship.

After Citizenship it takes one week to four weeks to get Canadian passport, Then someone can send Indian passport for surrender certificate and Indian embassy charge fees for it, same time can apply for Indian visa which is good for 6 months, or can apply for OCI which takes around 3 months.

Good luck for Canadian Citizenship.
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Originally Posted by parasharavinash View Post Hello,

I need some urgent suggestions on this matter.Me and my wife are Indian citizens. My wife along with dependent kids applied for Canadian citizenship before leaving for India. Now she received call for Canadian citizenship ceremony. I would like to know whether my wife can go alone (kids will stay in India), to get their Canadian passports. Later on we will surrender the Indian passports of my kids and apply for OCI. The only issue is my kids are changing their citizenship status without going out of country.
Responses will be highly appreciated.
Thanks
Hi

In the case of my kids they changed their citizenship while they were residing in India. As I was already a EU citizen they got their citizenship through descent and not naturalization. Hence they did not have to attend any oath ceremony. I collected their Foreign passports from my embassy in Mumbai and then followed the process of surrendering Indian passport and getting them their OCI card as described above. Their was no issue about not having an entry stamp on their foreign passports, their stay in India is regularised by paying a penalty and getting the entry X visa stamp. This allows them to stay in India until the OCI cards arrive.

For your wife since she is an adult so her presence in Canada is required. So its better she applies for OCI card from abroad before coming here. Regarding your kids may I suggest you check the possibility of them getting their Canadian passports through the Canadian embassy within India. This will save you trouble as I read somewhere that you cannot carry someone else's passport through immigration if they are not traveling with you.
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Thanks everyone. Information provided on this forum is really helpful.
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Thanks for your help.I am also planning to do the same.But from FRRO online application list which form is need to be filled, registration or new visa. I checked the forms and they are asking for current visa details. As kids will stay in India and don't have the visa. may be last information i need. Thanks a lot.
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Originally Posted by parasharavinash View Post Thanks for your help.I am also planning to do the same.But from FRRO online application list which form is need to be filled, registration or new visa. I checked the forms and they are asking for current visa details. As kids will stay in India and don't have the visa. may be last information i need. Thanks a lot.
If I'm not mistaken you should select new visa option. The visa type is entry X visa which you should apply for. Yours is a special case so existing visa details can be left blank or type in ''NA''. I do not remember what I did actually. The online form is mainly to block an appointment and time slot with FRRO. Please note that presence of children will be required as they will take a photo there.
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x visa

Very helpful informations.
Do you have any ideas, whether the kids could travel abroad while waiting for xvisa?

Thanks a ton.
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Originally Posted by Imti View Post Very helpful informations.
Do you have any ideas, whether the kids could travel abroad while waiting for xvisa?

Thanks a ton.
As per my knowledge, the other faster way for them to travel out of the country is to apply for an exit permit. But then you have to apply for an X visa from abroad for them to enter India. The X visa process takes 3 months, I suggest you not make any travel plans until you get it.
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Originally Posted by wolf80 View Post ..... The X visa process takes 3 months....
really? in what circumstances?

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Originally Posted by a_f_d View Post really? in what circumstances?

AndyD 8-)
It took 3 months when I applied for the x visa for my kids from within India as it required MHA approval. The circumstance being they changed their citizenship whilst they were in the country and their stay had to regularised by applying for a new visa from within the country.

Applying from outside might be faster I have no clue about that.
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