Registration with FRRO (before obtaining an OCI in India)

#1 Apr 13th, 2018, 17:02
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I don't know if this is the right place to ask about this, but has anyone registered with the FRRO using their online service: https://indianfrro.gov.in/eservices/. What was the outcome of doing the process online, compared to going to the office in person? Is it safer? Do they move faster? Is there a chance to be rejected?
I am planning to come to India in a few months time and stay with my husband who is an Indian citizen. I know registration is necessary 14 days from entering India. Also, my husband will be required to move from place to place with his job, although I don't know how often at the time being and I know you have to register with a new authority if you move state. Or at least this is what I understood from reading the rules. Maybe someone can clarify this for me.
From the time I reach India until I have to apply for an OCI card is maybe half a month, so is the continuous registration (in case we move from place to place) necessary while waiting for the OCI card to be approved?
Anyone having experience registering in Tamil Nadu? I was planning to register initially in his home city, Chennai and then figured it out from there. My in-laws can provide all the documents I need to prove accommodation and all.
#2 Apr 13th, 2018, 18:39
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Are you already married for at least 2 years? Then you could apply for an OCI card in your homecountry. That might be faster than in India and with it you can travel to India and will not have to register yourself.

The process is that you apply online and then go to the center in your home country or send it via post. That depends on the country.
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We will be celebrating 2 years of marriage soon and I was planning on applying to OCI in India. I have a 5 entry visa, so I have enough time on it to be able to wait for the OCI to be processed... hopefully it wont take 5 years. )
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Originally Posted by celticspirit View Post I don't know if this is the right place to ask about this, but has anyone registered with the FRRO using their online service: https://indianfrro.gov.in/eservices/. What was the outcome of doing the process online, compared to going to the office in person? Is it safer? Do they move faster? Is there a chance to be rejected? ... ... ...
I have had not had to register for some years, but I used this e-frro thingy for new passport recently.

1. I filled in the online form and uploaded the requested stuff.

2. I dealt with a couple of queries (they send you an SMS; you check what they want online.

3. The told me to take my stuff to the FRRO office.

4. When I got there, they said that they don't do the new-passport-pio thing, and sent me to talk to a pleasant woman about upgrading to OCI.

I have the impressions....

1. It's not optional: you fill in the forms and upload stuff using the online service.

2. Quite possible that you end up going to FRRO anyway.

Although... the place was amazingly quiet, so maybe a lot of stuff does get dealt with purely online.
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Thank you for the replies. I does sound like it's easy peasy, but I had to deal with the Indian bureaucracy when we had to register our marriage. Came out with a headache at the end of it.
My husband is in India and yes, I can do everything where I am currently, but I prefer to be with him while we wait for the process to be completed.
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Nick, I see you are in Chennai. I would ask for your final input on dealing with FRRO in Chennai. Was planning to register my entry in Chennai first, where his family is, and then go from there. My husband will be in his bond year with the hospital and probably will be moved from place to place, so I might have to register in each place, if we change the state. He is currently in Mumbai, but was planning to start the registration process where his family is first. My mother-in-law knows people in Chennai. Probably will also go for OCI card in Chennai also.
#7 Apr 16th, 2018, 21:41
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Nick, I see you are in Chennai. I would ask for your final input on dealing with FRRO in Chennai.
Not a lot I can say about them. I've been there to register a few times, when I had too. When I initially arrived on an X visa, I wanted to register, and a guy there argued that I couldn't until after 180 days. My wife walked into the boss's office, and won the case.

I'm a stay-at-home. I don't even travel on holidays much, but dredging my brain cells...

--- you have to register in the place that you live*.

--- you have to inform frro if you going to be away for your address for [more than two months???].

--- you have to inform frro of change of address.

--- if you move to a different address in a different district, you have to inform frro that you are leaving, and re-register in the new place.

Once upon a time I could talk with the authority of current experience, but not now. I may be a decade out of date, so please check current info!

As to dealing with the people at frro, yes, I had one argument, but mostly this stuff is routine, and they are not interested in causing either you or themselves any problems. But bureaucrats are bureaucrats, humans are humans, and you just might meet one who is having a bad day. I would rather deal with these people than some outsourcing company in a foreign city!


*If that is some rural village, or smaller town, you won't even go to an FRRO: you will go to an FRO, who will be one of the local police who is given that job. Actually, only major cities have FRRO offices.
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if you can choose your location from the drop down menu you MUST do it online in advance. you still have to go there and show the documents in original.
it resembles pretty much the visa application so you will fill out the from, upload the documents and print the form, then paste a foto onto it, sign it and go there.
if i remember correctly you will have to upload: passport page, copy of visa and entry stamp, passport or identification of your spouse, proof of address in india, marriage certificate and a letter stating you won't undertake employment while on xvisa. After completing this steps you will get an appointment date ( even at an small FRO ).
After you go there you will have to undergo police clearance and address verification. Painful but there is always a way to solve this depending on what they want. They will give you a statement then.
Afterwards you will go again to the FRO and you get a registration certificate/residential permit ( one paper).
Most complicated experience was uploading and preparing the papers to observe kb, pdf and so on. Remaining part is running and talking ( to the police). Have lots of passport size pictures ready and take all documents you could imagine ( ..... driving license...).
half day uploading and filling form, first visit to FRO, same day visit to police, 2 days later solving adress verification and police clearance and then once again FRO. Estimated duration of visit at the FRO in total 5 hours, at police 3 hours.
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Thank you for the detailed explanation. I am putting together a list now with all the documents I might need when coming to India. We still don't know where my husband will be posted after his studies, but I am keeping hope it will be a big city such as Mumbai or Chennai. I feel registration is much easier in big cities. Or at least I hope. .
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The more I read about this registration, the more I get confused. I will be reaching India 1 week before I will be applying for OCI probably. Two weeks max. Depends on my leave from UK. Do I have to register? Or can I skip registration and just go directly for OCI. What makes me a bit uncertain on how to proceed is the uncertainty about the wait for the OCI to be processed.
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Separate the issues.

1. You are coming to India on an X visa (if I remember correctly). You do not have to rush to register, but must do so as you approach 180 days here.

2. You are going to apply for OCI. It is not known how long that application will take.

First step: X visa, register.
#12 Apr 28th, 2018, 04:35
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I'll take your advise on this. I have already asked my mother-in-law to prepare all the necessary documents.
#13 May 2nd, 2018, 21:36
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Originally Posted by celticspirit View Post Nick, I see you are in Chennai. I would ask for your final input on dealing with FRRO in Chennai. ... ...
I can add a little bit more now, as I have put in my application to replace my PIO card with OCI.

There is a separate office for OCI enquiries/services. We have now been there twice. On the first occasion, the lady explained some things and gave us a to-do checklist.

Having completed the online application, including upload of photo and signature, and got all the necessary photocopies, we went back there today and saw the same officer. She is friendly and helpful. Actually, I would say, just the right balance of friendliness and formality. It seems that I did a good job with my bureaucracy, had everything needed, and the process took just a few minutes. The PIO office does not seem very busy: we did not have to wait long either time.

The general counter (had to go to that room as the public-loo door is there!) was much busier: more how I remember it from the days when I had to register.

They swap officers around from place to place, and, I think you are not sure which city you will be in yet, so my impressions may be of no use at all.

But... just don't worry too much about registration. The online process is fairly straight forward, and it probably reduces the actual time you'll spend (if any) going to FRRO office.
#14 May 3rd, 2018, 04:33
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Thank you, Nick. Sounds easy enough. I am still inclined to do everything in Chennai because I can have my mother-in-law fight my battles if necessary. My husband is a doctor and almost never at home, so I need someone to be able to come with me any time I need to deal with government officials. Please do update on the outcome of your OCI. Still curious how long it takes nowadays.
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So am I... but mine is a conversion from PIO, so the time taken will not be relevant to a new application.
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I am still inclined to do everything in Chennai
Remember that you will have to do everything where you live. Proof of address will be part of the whole thing. Even for registration, I think. And you have to do all this in the jurisdiction of the office you go to.

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