NOL No longer needed?

#1 Jun 27th, 2014, 15:46
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Hello Hello!!!

I've been told that since a month ago the famous NOL is not needed any more? Any formal confirmation somewhere? experiences? I am PIO and leaving India in a month for a couple of months, with a registration permit that was extended last january until 2019. (written by hand on the same registration permit)

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PD: Last time I had to ask NOL I was leaving a 28th of September from Cochin to Chennai departing on the 29th. I went 1st of September and the officer said come on the 20th. (Onam holiday was in the middle). Of course when I went there I got a big angry why did you come so late? Anyway.. he agreed on giving me the permit on the 27th.

The 27th, of course the permit was not there and the Commisioner was off to Trivandrium, coming only after midnight. They told me they will keep the paper for him to sign and that I could come at 7am Saturday to get it. Very nice from them

But Of course the paper was not signed Saturday 7am. but very gently, someone took it to the Commisioner's house, he signed it and gave it to me at 8:23am//. Just in time to catch my train at 9am to Cochin and then to Chennai..

A little of stress about NOL? is not the first time that happens to me and many others I know for a last minute NOL being given (or not)
#2 Jul 4th, 2014, 21:55
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Not Needed

Ok.. I went to FRO and talked to the official and he said that NOL is not nolnger needed, but that upon return I have to report to FRO saying that I have re-entered india on such and such date.

Hopefully they will not turn me back from Delhi.

But still does any body knows the cause why NOL is no longer neede?
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As far as I'm concerned, within the past decade or so, it never was. Not at all famous In fact I had to think hard what "NOL" might stand for.
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Originally Posted by Nick-H View Post As far as I'm concerned, within the past decade or so, it never was. Not at all famous In fact I had to think hard what "NOL" might stand for.
And what, prithee, does it stand for?

Notice of Liability? No objection letter?

Obviously the OP assumes everyone knows.
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Well, if you don't know, then I have even less confidence in my own guess.

No objection to Leave?



All I can say is that I have been a tax-paying, resident, PIO-card holder for over nine years, coming and going on trips out of India, and that any sort of "exit visa" or tax clearance, etc etc etc is not needed.

But it might stand for something else entirely, and I might have the wrong end of yet another stick...
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There is (used to be?) something called an NOC (no objection certificate). This could be the same thing.
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I think there are NOCs aplenty, from marriage to shifting your car from one state to another!
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"NOLs" are "No Objection to Leave" certificates that PIO card holders needed many many Moons ago to travel overseas from India. I don't know about NOC/No Objection Policy etc. because they are a dime a dozen such idiocies, but the NOLs have been done away with. I searched and searched on the Big G but could not find any source of time and date of its revocation. Regardless, it is a fossil and any FRO/FRRO official that asks for it does not know what he/she is doing.
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Must admit. I thought No Objection Letter, in the error for ubiquitous NOC.
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Something evil in bureaucracy never dies, its like Anthrax awaiting being turned over..
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No Objection to Leave. I know several people that stayed more than 6 months last years and because of not having NOL they were returned from the airport. I have 3 of them already in my registration papers. I even know people flying from Cochin to Chennai, and being returned from Chennai to get this permission to leave India back in Kerela.
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If you are eligible for an OCI then get one. These must have been PIOs who stayed more than six months in des and failed to register with the FR(R)O.
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Originally Posted by laralar View Post No Objection to Leave. I know several people that stayed more than 6 months last years and because of not having NOL they were returned from the airport. I have 3 of them already in my registration papers. I even know people flying from Cochin to Chennai, and being returned from Chennai to get this permission to leave India back in Kerela.
Not sure about current rules, but I was not allowed to fly many moons ago, because I did not have a NOC/NOL. Not fun, getting stuck in Bombay when you can't speak Hindi.

Fortunately the man at the telephone booth was a malayalee, but like most malayalees he takes pleasure in seeing his fellow man getting a hard time. He kept on speaking to me in Hindi, although he heard me talking in malayalam over the phone. Suddenly he spoke to his daughter in malayalam, when I realised that he was just being a knob I gave him an earfull, after which he became much more decent.
Lord, Grant me the Serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of those people I had to kill because they pissed me off.
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JOHNLORD, roughly how long ago was that incident. I thought you had an OCI card. OCI holders do not need to register themselves with a FRRO, unlike PIO card holders, who are required to register with a FRO/FRRO if their stay exceeds 180 days. Were you detained because you had stayed for over 180 days and had not registered?
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Originally Posted by ViShVa View Post JOHNLORD, roughly how long ago was that incident. I thought you had an OCI card. OCI holders do not need to register themselves with a FRRO, unlike PIO card holders, who are required to register with a FRO/FRRO if their stay exceeds 180 days. Were you detained because you had stayed for over 180 days and had not registered?
I think it was late 95. I had registered but I did not take a no objection to leave certificate. You are right I do have a OCI now.

I got my OCI a few years ago, until then I took an NOC each time, despite IMers telling me not to bother.

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