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How do I prove I was born in India - Naturalised in 1989 Indian passport sent to HCI

#1 Jun 6th, 2014, 01:10
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I am trying to apply for OCI but am being told by HCI Birmingham that my baptism and high school certificates are not valid as proof of birth in India. I was naturalised as a UK citizen in 1989 and my Indian passport (which expired in 1986) was sent by the Home Office directly to HCI London. I only have the Indian passport number, issue and expiry dates - no photocopy of the passport. I asked the Home Office under FOI rules for copies of documentation submitted with my naturalisation application but they say they didn't keep copies of attachments. I've asked HCI London for a copy of my Indian passport but not received a response.

I've been told by HCI Birmingham that I can obtain a nativity certificate in India which will be acceptable - but I left when I was 18 and have no idea how to go about getting this. And would a birth certificate be available if all I have is a baptism certificate - I was born in the late 1950's? My parents were also born in India and my father was in the IAF for over 25 years - but that detail, coupled with my parents' marriage certificate, as well as my mother's baptism certificate are still not acceptable to HCI Birmingham. Any guidance/help would be most appreciated.
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Where were you born? If it was a military hospital they must still be having the records. The Registrar of Births, Deaths and Marriages at your birthplace can issue you a birth certificate on this basis.
#3 Jun 6th, 2014, 01:47
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I emailed the officer responsible for births & deaths in Ambala Cantt and included a pdf copy of my baptism certificate, asking if my birth would be registered. I know a copy of the baptism certificate was downloaded and the email has been read but I haven't received a response. I have searched online for Ambala Cantt military hospital but am unable to find information on it - if anyone can help with contact details this would be very helpful.
#4 Jun 6th, 2014, 01:59
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Hope the hospital records survived the air raid:

http://www.itnsource.com/shotlist//R...0335/?s=punjab

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IN THE MEANTIME, FIGHTING BETWEEN INDIA AND PAKISTAN CONTINUES. DURING THE NIGHT PAKISTAN AIRCRAFT MADE SEVERAL ATTACKS ON INDIAN BASES, INCLUDING ONE STRIKE AGAINST AMBALA 120 MILES (192 KMS) NORTH OF NEW DELHI. IT WAS THE SECOND TIME IN A WEEK THAT AMBALA HAD BEEN ATTACKED.
FOUR DIRECT HITS WERE SCORED ON THE HOSPITAL, INCLUDING ONE OF THE MAIN WARD. EIGHT PEOPLE WERE KILLED - SOME OF THEM PATIENTS. OUTBUILDINGS WERE ALSO DAMAGED AND TELEPHONE WIRES WERE BROUGHT DOWN.
The church was hit in the air raid too. But you have your baptism certificate.

http://www.mangalorean.com/printarti...icle&artid=433

That night air-raid sirens went off in Dehradun too.
#5 Jun 26th, 2014, 17:19
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Originally Posted by Trishmor View Post I emailed the officer responsible for births & deaths in Ambala Cantt and included a pdf copy of my baptism certificate, asking if my birth would be registered. I know a copy of the baptism certificate was downloaded and the email has been read but I haven't received a response. I have searched online for Ambala Cantt military hospital but am unable to find information on it - if anyone can help with contact details this would be very helpful.
Just saw you post (while looking for something else) my husband had exactly the same problem, was naturalised in 70s. and did not even keep his passport number. We did have an affidavit from an Indian lawyer who knew the family.

This solution is to get an affidavit stating what happened to your passport.
Any school certificate will be supporting evidence, also your naturalisation certificate.
We used a London Lawyer who specialised in Indian related matters, expensive but they were successful. You could telephone and get advice free.
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another solution?

Instead of trying to get it on the basis of your prior Indian nationality why not try it on the basis of your father or mother's Indian nationality. Given your father was in IAF it should be easy to prove that he was an Indian.

You then need to prove that you are his son - the Nativity certificate should do that!

It is typical of Indian bureaucracy who don't keep their own records so that they can look up a passport number, but expect everyone else to! The standard process when you were naturalised was for UK Home Office to take the passports and send them to Indian High Commission.

In my case, my father kept the letter from Home Office and Indian High Commission in London accepted that as evidence.

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