Daughters OCI - Missed the call! ☹️

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Originally Posted by Natasha16 View Post How much do you think they check the documents?

The documents I have provided have been returned to me (originals) and I donít believe this is sufficient time to check this thoroughly. From my perspective, itís just a tick boxing exercise to get the ę*so called documents*Ľ in and make sure it says all the right things.

Do you think they just read them or they verify these?

I would hope that they verify them and take the time to make sure everything is right, however, it doesnít seem this way to me. From reading other peopleís post, they seem to have a backlog and sorting in Delhi. How can Delhi verify English docs? I just want to know how things work as I donít understand the justification of 3 months if they return the docs back so quickly to me?

I was going to use a sarcastic tone, but I remembered my own initial posts here on IM.

They probably scan your documents so they can refer to them as and when needed. My experience of using VFS (in Manchester) to renew my fathers Indian passport is not good, they were very fussy.

Hopefully you should be ok.
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Hmmm... verification? No, they cannot really verify British official documents, because they don't have access to the source or to the issuing officers. Of course, anybody can go to wherever the public office is these days and "verify" the entry for a birth, death or marriage, but I'm sure that they have a good idea what genuine originals look like. With Indian documents, they will also be used to assessing a wide range of originals, from printing to scribbles. My marriage certificate is typed on a manual machine. The only vaguely official looking thing on it is the rubber stamp, but it has never caused even a second look.

Practised eyes. Think about how long it takes an immigration officer to check out your passport, visa, face, etc. They are very quick. If anything catches their eye, then they stop being quick and start being painstakingly thorough. I'm basing this observation on entering UK, accompanying my Indian wife through the foreigners' entry section, but, although India may look more relaxed, I'd say the same thing applies.

So far as OCI issue is concerned, I think demand has changed, and probably their staffing and procedures have changed. This is my theory, for which read guesswork... Obviously, there has been the usual flow of OCI applications, but then, everybody who would have applied for PIO applied for OCI. PIO was not even dealt with by the Delhi department. How long did it take for staffing to catch up with demand?

Another piece of my guesswork is that applications from those of non[-genetic]-Indian origin were scrutinised very strictly, leading to reports of, for example, spouses waiting anything up to a year. Again: that is a category that might have had one guy with a large in-tray.

The PIO to OCI upgrades. As one of the apathetic multitudes, many, many people like me just did not bother. Then, however much India might have wanted our PIO cards to be accepted as lifelong OCI equivalents, the airlines and foreign immigration departments said no, they are not machine readable, we will stop accepting them. The date, in September of this year, looms, and even I got off my backside, regretting that now I have to pay, having been lazy through the for-free times.

The OCI office at Chennai FRRO is hardly packed out. But a lot of people must be realising that, very soon, they cannot get on a plane to/from India with their PIOs. I'd guess that the demand has increased quite a lot.

According to my on-line status, processing of my PUI->OCI took one day, printing took one day, then despatch to FRRO. I guess that, before that, it sat in the queue for approx three weeks. I don't think that anybody was double-checking my wife's passport or our marriage cert. But for a new application, yes, it takes longer, so I guess they either stare longer and harder, or maybe do do a bit more. Hey, every [I think] Indian passport issue is accompanied by an actual police check. In India, of course.

So be patient: your application is probably going to spend several weeks in a queue. Possibly, as you are applying from UK, two queues.

You never know. I'm just amazed at how quick I got my upgrade card. Something efficient is going on in Delhi!
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Originally Posted by Nick-H View Post The PIO to OCI upgrades. As one of the apathetic multitudes, many, many people like me just did not bother. Then, however much India might have wanted our PIO cards to be accepted as lifelong OCI equivalents, the airlines and foreign immigration departments said no, they are not machine readable, we will stop accepting them. The date, in September of this year, looms, and even I got off my backside, regretting that now I have to pay, having been lazy through the for-free times.

The OCI office at Chennai FRRO is hardly packed out. But a lot of people must be realising that, very soon, they cannot get on a plane to/from India with their PIOs. I'd guess that the demand has increased quite a lot.

According to my on-line status, processing of my PUI->OCI took one day, printing took one day, then despatch to FRRO. I guess that, before that, it sat in the queue for approx three weeks. I don't think that anybody was double-checking my wife's passport or our marriage cert. But for a new application, yes, it takes longer, so I guess they either stare longer and harder, or maybe do do a bit more. Hey, every [I think] Indian passport issue is accompanied by an actual police check. In India, of course.

So be patient: your application is probably going to spend several weeks in a queue. Possibly, as you are applying from UK, two queues.

You never know. I'm just amazed at how quick I got my upgrade card. Something efficient is going on in Delhi!
Like you, I waited. The thought of going through another process similar to getting my original PIO was enough to scare the sh*t out of me for years - to the point of considering visiting India on visas.

So...why if I've already submitted all those documents, blood, and first-born to get my PIO do I need to do it all again for an OCI? Don't they have records of all that? Ugh.
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I do not believe how quick my application for my daughter has changed to PROCESS. Only last a Friday I handed in the missing document they enquired of.

I logged on today after posting earlier. I definitely do not believe my documents have been checked efficiently and now truly believe that they have to follow protocol. Itís unbelievable but good for me. Does anyone know how quick I should expect the OCi seeing as it has been processed now.

Iím not saying it in a bad light. All my documents are true and even signed by second person with solicitor but the length of time and how many others I saw at the VFS centre. They physically threw my daughters application on a pile when I went in to hand in the doc.

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Only last a Friday I handed in the missing document they enquired of.
Same here: mine was completed within days of submitting one extra document. Don't knock it!

I'm wondering if the main examination, for me, in fact, was done by the lady at FRRO. She is the one who saw all the original documents and signed everything off on her tick list. Mind you, that only took a few minutes. It must be that they have immigration officials at the High Commission, dealing with visas. It may be that some of them are senior, and Head Office takes their word for it.

Just guesswork, of course.
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Originally Posted by Nick-H View Post Same here: mine was completed within days of submitting one extra document. Don't knock it!

I'm wondering if the main examination, for me, in fact, was done by the lady at FRRO. She is the one who saw all the original documents and signed everything off on her tick list. Mind you, that only took a few minutes. It must be that they have immigration officials at the High Commission, dealing with visas. It may be that some of them are senior, and Head Office takes their word for it.

Just guesswork, of course.

Hmm Nick...i do have my doubts. I went through two years of hard work to obtain an OCI and it just seems like theyíre not bothered and only care for money. I am unsure that they do check documents only due to the fact my application feels rushed and processed. However, yes maybe you are right and that it is checked by high commision
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Daughters OCI - Missed the call! ☹️

If we had done it last year... No money!

But I wonder if charging for it might have made them speed up the process. I guess I'll never know.
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Originally Posted by Nick-H View Post If we had done it last year... No money!

But I wonder if charging for it might have made them speed up the process. I guess I'll never know.
My application has been processed and it says india Delhi was done todayís date and docs received to London. When do I hand in little Aís passport?
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Astonishing! Congratulations to Little A

I don't know about collecting the card in London; somebody here will. I think you go back to VFS.
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Originally Posted by Natasha16 View Post My application has been processed and it says india Delhi was done todayís date and docs received to London. When do I hand in little Aís passport?
Congrats! You are almost there.
If I understand your question correctly, OCI is a brand new booklet (blue), it won't be part of the existing passport.
I don't think I ever submitted my daughters foreign passport when I applied at Delhi FRRO. They just asked me to make photocopy of Passport/OCI together at the time of pick up.
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Originally Posted by Nick-H View Post Astonishing! Congratulations to Little A

I don't know about collecting the card in London; somebody here will. I think you go back to VFS.
Hello, I have handed in Aís passport on Friday. What is the process now until I receive the OCI and passport. As the application has been processed what do they do now? Further checks or just issuing of OCI. Iím still shocked how fast this process currently is

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Didn't they tell you what happens next?

Either you collect the OCI booklet, or they send it to you, along with the passport. Hope a passing UK OCI applicant can tell us...

I'm reasonably confident that there are no more checks, documents, grueling interrogations () etc. It's done and dusted... Bar the actual delivery.
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Still waiting for the OCI and passport (handed on Friday). Nothing today.... Will update again tomorrow.
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I was sent a text saying itís been dispatched today!

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