Birth Certificate mentioning a different place of birth but correct date of birth

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Sir/Mam,
I recently applied for my Birth Certificate for Passport purpose, and because of some army rules, my BC is going to be made with mentioning my place of birth different from my actual place of birth. But it will have a correct date of birth.

Will it be a problem for getting a passport cos of that?

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All the details are required to be correct and there should not be any conflict in information provided.

As far as I know, there is no such rule(s) in Indian Army which requires a change in the name of place.
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i think the OP is saying he/she was born in place A, but cannot get a certificate from that place for whatever reason, so would it be okay if he/she got the same certificate from place B, mentioning the place A as the place and date of birth?

I do not know who the authority issuing the certificate is, if it is the military, or the local municipality or the district registrar?
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I know that buddy...its quite a complicated process...could you please tell me if there is any way that they can verify my actual place of birth other than BC?? and BC is only for DOB purpose, right??? So would the place of birth matter that much?
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ADAM 00121 You are partly right sir. But actually the scene is I am getting BC from Ambala which is my actual place of birth but mentioning DOB as 1990 which isdifferent to the one mentioned in all my other documents, including army documents, academics, adahr card, pan, etc( as 1991)..but for passport purpose, i need to have BC mentioning DOB as 1991 matching with all my documents...but the people in Ambala are saying that they will go by hospotal records nd will make it of 1990 only....so in order to get a BC of 1991, I moved to Zamania court where my army documents are placed and they said they will make a BC for me according to army records of my date of birth but will be mentioning place of birth as Zamania.....
So in short, am getting BC of 1991 which is absolutely correct as fas as matching with my all other records is concerned...the only thing is place of birth
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This will be treated as forgery and it is a punishable act under the Passports Act, 1967.
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If you understood my situation, could u please suggest what should I do which is legally acceptable...there has to some way
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Very difficult situation... as there will be two instances of forgery in your case - one is giving wrong date of birth and other is wrong place of birth. You may even lose your job (if you are in one) if anyone complains. You will have to answer your seniors if you enter the right DOB.

Frankly speaking, I'm not able to say what exactly you should do.
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yeah thats true...but is place of birth that much imp in BC?? Cos for passport, they only want it as a proof for DOB
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I wonder how the Army is going along in your attempts to cheat your age by one whole year. As mentioned above there can be no ambiguity in the DOB in your application and supporting documents.

For better, stick to the actual DOB.

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there have been a rash of incidents recently about actual date of birth vs the recorded date of birth, mostly by people in very high positions, in order to extend their date of retirement.

while yours does not fall under that set of circumstances, it does require one basic question? What is your actual date of birth?

If it is one, then you have a problem with all other documents, and could be considered tantamount to lying at worst, and at best, a blanket affidavit signed by appropriate authority could manage this problem. It is sometimes impossible to change the data and obtain duplicate certificates, without any 'extra' notes added to them, so they can be claimed to be originals.

But if you go the other way, it could be a fraud, because you are changing your place of birth as well as the date. While this may not be checked by the passport authorities, your certificate is not issued on the date you were born, but now, which in itself could be a problem.

My guess is you need some expertise beyond this forum, a good lawyer retained by you, who could give you a way out of what currently looks like a mess.

Most of the questions asked and answered here are from experience, or the ability to read documents/instructions properly, and unless someone who has the exact experience with the problem answers your question, it would be a problem in future, if you accept that advice.
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I do give a serious ponder to your reply sir. Actually what happened is that my parents, thinking that it would be good for me in future, got all my documents right from the start as having DOB as 1991...(in reality being 1991). So all my army documents, and educational documents are of 1991....This is the scene I am in right now. Leaving passport aside, am I in a big trouble already? Because in every field they never ask for your birth certificate.
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Sir, i was staying in Hostel in Mumbai for my engineering...while my permanent address is of Nasik...and passport people ask for two years electric bill...So, am little confused regarding the fact that I personally was not staying at my permanent home in last two years...would it be a problem?
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You will have to mention the address(es) where you have lived during last one year. You will have to provide electricity bills of the house where you have lived during the last one year (one year old and current month).

You have not to provide any proof where you have not resided during the period even if it is your permanent address.

It would be great if you go through the article How to Apply for an Indian Passport within India and FAQ. It will solve plenty of your queries.
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not two years, one year. You provide all the addresses where you stayed in the past one year, and documents for the current address (not all the past addresses). police check will be done in all the places you mention, but documents, they will be checked for the latest one.

If you are living with family, you can provide electric bills on your parents name (or any other name), so long as you can prove your relationship with the name of the person on the bill. Your father's name will appear on all or most of your educational certificates, so those are enough to prove your relationship.

For utilities, you need two bills, one latest, and one from the year before (same month), or the first bill, if you have lived for less than a year at that place.

you apply at the rpo in which your current residence falls under.

i cannot say if you have one actual Date of birth, and a different one as per records, because in post #5, you say you were born in 1990, but in the last message, you say you were born in 1991, b only the place is a problem.

in any case, you have crossed the cutoff date mandated by the ministry (1989), so you WILL need a birth certificate. So, my advice is to contact a lawyer, and sort it out. Maybe they can figure out an elegant solution, not sure if anyone here can advice you.

I can only advise you to start the passport process only after you get this problem solved. Lying on application could cause other problems.

Please let us know, if you can, what you did to resolve this. This is how others with the same problem can be helped.
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