Scams in India.

#1 Dec 28th, 2016, 02:13
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Merry Christmas Everyone.



I was reading some of some scams in India today to prepare for a tourist informaton periodical that I'm writing for tourists in Varkala.



This sounded a very interesting one with a false phone line directed to a back office.



The report is by a chap posting on trip advisor.



If you know of any scams you would like to share information about to be published in my periodical then it would be great to hear of them as it could possible be printed to make others aware of the scams.

I would be exceptionally interested to hear of common or rare scams in Varkala or the Trivandrum area.



Cheers.



Report below.



" Scam #1

Basically the scam is that rickshaw drivers get travelers to make a phone call from a phony STD office to the hotel they want to stay at (to confirm a reservation) but instead the phone call goes to a backroom where someone else answers and pretends to be the hotel and says, "Oh I'm sorry we don't have any more rooms". Then the unfortunate traveler is upset and worried and the rickshaw driver says "oh, no worry - why not try calling this hotel." Gratefully the traveler calls the new hotel (again the guy in the backroom) and finds that yes there is room (of course at a much higher price). I was aware of this scam but I got sucked into it - We arrived in the Delhi train station at 10:30 PM. We made several phone calls to hostels in the area until we found one with a room in the Connaught Circle area. Outside the station we negotiated with bicycle rickshaws until we finally bargained one of them down to 5 Rs. We thought we had a good deal (nothing is ever free). Our rickshaw driver took us out of the station and down the main entrance road to a STD office on the side of the road. He stopped the bike, got out and told us to get out as well - we needed to confirm our hotel reservations. At this point I knew we were in the scam but - how to get out. We told him we had just confirmed our reservations at the station. We sat in the rickshaw. He seem very frustrated with us and went to get someone from inside the building who started to scream at us that we MUST get off the rickshaw and make a confirmation phone call. We refused and demanded that they take us to our hostel. We threatened to get out of the rickshaw and call the police - then they finally calmed down and another guy got on the bike and started peddling over his shoulder he said, "OK I take you to Hotel for 100 Rs." We yelled at him and at this point got out of the rickshaw and started to walk (not the brightest idea - in the middle of the night) but we could see some traffic up ahead and we figured we'd be fine. While we were there we saw two travelers already inside making phone calls."
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There is a thread or three discussing different scams of India. Use the search box at the top.
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Scams in India.

Well as a second thought, if anybody would like to give me permission to publish their report of a scam to be published in my periodical, especially in Varkala then this post may be a good place to confirm permission and tell of the scam to be reported in my periodical.

Thanks.
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Anyone who thinks they can get a rickshaw for RS.5 *deserves* to be scammed.

(locals of various Indian cities: yes, pedal rickshaws *are* incredibly cheap, and you might be able to. But not a visitor.)
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Fake telegraph office - this was how Robert Shaw got scammed in The Sting.
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Originally Posted by Golghar View Post ... this was how Robert Shaw got scammed in The Sting.
And, one supposes, he'd read the script!


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Scams in India.

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Originally Posted by Nick-H View Post Anyone who thinks they can get a rickshaw for RS.5 *deserves* to be scammed.

(locals of various Indian cities: yes, pedal rickshaws *are* incredibly cheap, and you might be able to. But not a visitor.)


An interesting point. May I ask, how much more would one expect a tourist, working, student or unemployed to pay over a local citizen?

10%, 25%, 50% or even %100 more than the normal local rate?

I sometimes buy a small chocolate bar from the local shop for Rs 10 or a Cornetto copy ice cream for Rs 25, even though the correct price is Rs20, and it would peeve me to be expected to pay more than the local price for the chocolate bar.

Although it does frustrate me at being asked to pay Rs 100 for a Rs 50 trip from Varkala cliff top to town. Hence the reason I bought my own used Baja petrol auto-rickshaw for Rs 10,000.

But what do people think is the correct rate/percentage of false inflation prices for tourists expected to pay using taxis or auto-rickshaws?

Thanks.
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I don't have an answer to that, as I am a local person!

Cycle rickshaws have largely disappeared in this city, except for a few still carrying school children. However, I used to know an old couple that used one, and was amazed at the tiny amount they paid.
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New scam. If you are booking hotels online...sometimes the hotel will cancel your booking after you check in. They might do this to avoid paying the commission to the booking site, but depending on the booking site rules, if they mark you as a no show than you might be liable to pay for the entire booking. This has happened to me at four different hotels in the last month.
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Originally Posted by iamgorman View Post New scam. If you are booking hotels online...sometimes the hotel will cancel your booking after you check in. They might do this to avoid paying the commission to the booking site, but depending on the booking site rules, if they mark you as a no show than you might be liable to pay for the entire booking. This has happened to me at four different hotels in the last month.
Interesting. I had booked a hotel in India last October, stayed there as planned, but then received an e-mail from the booking site, asking me whether I had actually stayed there. I'm not sure now, but I seem to remember that it did say 'no show' in the subject line. I confirmed that I had indeed stayed in the hotel. That seemed to satisfy them. But I'm beginning to see a pattern...
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Originally Posted by Wildhorse View Post but I seem to remember that it did say 'no show' in the subject line. I confirmed that I had indeed stayed in the hotel. That seemed to satisfy them. But I'm beginning to see a pattern...
The OTAs (Online Travel Agencies) have two essential business models. This is only possible in an Agency model a.k.a booking dot com etc. Where you pay directly to the hotel, and hotel is obliged to fork over 20-30% range for each room sold by the OTA. It is here that there the above said shenanigans. Mind you this only happens in low end of the hospitality industry. In other model (Merchant) the OTA (Agoda etc.) collects money from you, and then pays the hotel when the stay is completed.

Top Quintiles would rarely play that game.
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Originally Posted by iamgorman View Post New scam. If you are booking hotels online...sometimes the hotel will cancel your booking after you check in. They might do this to avoid paying the commission to the booking site, but depending on the booking site rules, if they mark you as a no show than you might be liable to pay for the entire booking. This has happened to me at four different hotels in the last month.
This happened to me last week. I thought maybe the guest house did it because I cut my stay short from 5 to 3 nights. I got the email from booking.com and confirmed I had stayed, and am now keeping an eye on my credit card to see if they charge me, because I paid cash (and have a receipt to prove it).
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Just came across this: Despite ban, 'chingu' selling like hot cake in Manali and another on same subject: Chingu !! Beware of this Fraud or Cheat.. Seems to be on the go for quite a long time.
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Those are dated links. The new name for this 'rare' animal is Sparu. https://www.quora.com/Is-Sparu-blank...i-fake-or-Real
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If you realy insist you will be still able to buy a Chingus even tho dated name (with a guarantee as long as they take the label made in ... off )


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