Dalrymple's The Age of Kali

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Has anyone read this? I'm reading it now and wondered what opinions were. He paints a rather scathing view of well....everything, but as he says in his intro, it's all done with love (or something like that.)

http://www.amazon.com/Age-Kali-India...3804144&sr=1-1

actually makes me want to get some of her books....http://shobhaade.com/
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Kaliyug, the Age of Kali: that's what things looked like in the nineties. The BJP was in power - it looked like it would dominate the country for the next few decades. You might remember what an upset the 2004 election was.

As for Shobha De: if you liked Georgette Heyer you'll love Shobha De!
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Read it a long time ago. Liked it, but thought he had written better books. As usual, the problems arise when he becomes a selective historian.

As for Shoba De, the less said the better.
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City of Djinns was his gem. Up the Tiger Path & The Sorcerer's Grave ... & the interview with Benazir Bhutto stand out in my mind from The Age of Kali.
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For those who like the short anecdotal stuff on India, Mark Tully is usually better than WD. 'No full stops in India', though dated, is still good. Followed by 'India in slow motion'.

Yeah, Djinns is my favourite too. And the documentary(seen on BBC long ago) of the same name anchored by WD was excellent. Haunting music by Michael Brook and Nusret Fateh Ali Khan too.
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I pretty much like all that I have read of him so far (city of djinns, age of kali)- though the white mughal is becoming somewhat of a drag now (its a long read)
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White Mughals is the one I liked least, I think. The Last Mughal is way better.


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Originally Posted by capt_mahajan View Post Yeah, Djinns is my favourite too. And the documentary(seen on BBC long ago) of the same name anchored by WD was excellent. Haunting music by Michael Brook and Nusret Fateh Ali Khan too.
I had that CD (Night Song) in my car CD player for about 3 months .... a personal tolerance record. ... eventually got bumped out by the 'Master & Commander' soundtrack.

If it wasn't for Capt identifying NFAK in the City of Djinns TV documentary .... I probably would never have sourced it at all (the musicians were not listed in the Doc credits).
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If it wasn't for Capt identifying NFAK
Would you believe I actually emailed WD (off his website, IIRC) and asked him after I saw the documentary? He replied, too!!
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The music was the best part of that documentary. The qawwali music @ Nizamuddin set that 'Djinn' atmosphere equally well. They(musicians) all should have got some credit at the end though.
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As for Shoba De, the less said the better.
frankly, I thought the juxtaposition of a woman like De against the widows of Vrindivan (sp?) was priceless.
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White Mughals is the one I liked least, I think. The Last Mughal is way better
True, but a very clear progression from journalism to serious historian. Its most impressive though disturbing to my historian colleagues! I like to needle them about such by mentioning an aunt who, after retiring from a small town newspaper, wrote 3 History books (2 from a university press).

Don't you think Shoba De is doing a sendup of the shallow, extremely shallow business elites she connects to and laughing all the way to the bank.?
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On Shobha De and the last line above, absolutely. Catty style over substance in the age of disposable analysis.
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Good book. I'm reading it now...half-way through it. Liked the material so far- engrossing.
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Originally Posted by Sama View Post Has anyone read this? I'm reading it now and wondered what opinions were. He paints a rather scathing view of well....everything, but as he says in his intro, it's all done with love (or something like that.)
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