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Old Jul 20th, 2007, 15:09   #1
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Outside cement work in monsoon?

Hi, just have a quick question:

we need to do some work outside, mainly cementing poles into the ground and tiling with outside tiles. All this involves cement. The fabricator/builder guy says it needs "6 hours without rain" to dry properly. My question: is that really enough?

I'm wondering if he just says that because he wants to do the job quickly to get his money, regardless whether the work will be done properly or not.

Anybody knows? Thanks!
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Old Jul 20th, 2007, 15:14   #2
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Yes, it should be enough time! You (they) should make efforts to keep the area as dry as possible, but actually concrete will set under water! In most cases you need to keep it cool, and water helps. After six hours, it will be hard enough to not wash away and will continue hardening if immersed.
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Old Jul 20th, 2007, 15:15   #3
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Ok. Thanks ba9rn!
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Old Jul 20th, 2007, 15:16   #4
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This needs an experts advice...and I am none..

it depends on the grade of cement..cements do settle down in 4 hours/6 hours..

but someone might advice better..
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Old Jul 20th, 2007, 15:40   #5
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An accelerator can also be added to mortar, but I very much doubt whether it would be needed in Pune (due to the temperature). You should be fine.
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Old Jul 20th, 2007, 15:44   #6
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yes and actually if it settles for 5-6 hours..then monsoons are the best time for construction work...

Its take a long time to dry up and water actually helps the bonding of particles together and results in very strong structure..
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Old Jul 20th, 2007, 15:50   #7
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6 hours is fine to dry out ....then u have to keep it soaked in water for 2 or 3 days to set in and get stronger.
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6 hours is fine to dry out ....then u have to keep it soaked in water for 2 or 3 days to set in and get stronger.
Yes, it's called CURING!... Soaking in water to solidify ...What a paradox!!
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Old Jul 20th, 2007, 16:06   #9
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I see. Yes, really paradox! But ok, then we can go ahead! Thanks guys!
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Old Jul 20th, 2007, 16:12   #10
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hey, this time I can post as an expert

Cementing poles into the ground: unless rain isn't pooring you can do this anytime (pooring rain would add too much water to the concrete mixture and the quality gets worse).

Concrete hardens "under water", and as slower it hardens, as better and stronger is the quality. On a sunny day you have to protect it, water it and keep it humid and cool. For poles in the ground this is no problem, as the soil around will do this job. For concrete slabs this is something important.

For tiling it is almost the same, rain while setting the tiles would destroy the mortar(it would get too liquid), but as soon as it is visibly hard, humidity and cloudy weather improves the quality.

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Old Jul 21st, 2007, 10:59   #11
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I once put a pole in the ground on a cold rainy January day in Maryland. It was so wet I had to bail out the hole before I could put in gravel and then cement. It snowed that night and the next day and got very cold. That pole is still out there in the yard, solid as can be.
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Probably still frozen!
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Old Jul 21st, 2007, 14:27   #13
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For a few hundred rupees you get large plastic sheets at local hardware stores. You can use these sheets to protect the cemented areas from the rain.

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Actually, the concrete has it's own built-in heater, while setting there's a chemical process that produces heat. That's why proper curing is so important on hot days... if it gets too hot, it cracks. Anyway, poles are not such a delicate thing as long as the soil around is ok...
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It's amazing to find out that the ladies here are construction experts!

There's one in they eye for gender stereotyping !
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