Indian employment law - Sundays counted as holidays when taking leave???

Haylo · Aug 1st, 2009, 01:20

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Originally Posted by rsk11584

For example assuming sat, sun are weekly offs, if you take holiday from friday to monday (2 days friday and monday, then the sat sun will also be counted as leave, and deducted from your quota.

I have never heard of this before; am I the only one who thinks this is totally absurd?

Surely this qualifies for an "Only in India" award...

LilBoy BigTown · Sep 5th, 2009, 15:52

I had heard of it once or twice but this is the 1st I have seen someone being subjected to this most inhumane law (if it indeed is a law).

I wonder if this applies to Govt employees as well? But honestly, no matter how you look at it, the emotion it brings out is disbelief and disgust.

Its pointless to blame the corporates, the onus is on Govt to ensure work conditions are improved for Indian public. If you framed a law which is open to interpretation, people will take advantage of it. Mind boggles at the prospect of this happening in 21st century.

Haylo · Sep 5th, 2009, 17:39

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Originally Posted by LilBoy BigTown

I had heard of it once or twice but this is the 1st I have seen someone being subjected to this most inhumane law (if it indeed is a law).

I would be very surprised indeed if this was due to a law, it is far more likely to be merely one of the many employment conditions which are set out in a contract of employment.

Surely it is up to an employer and employee to negotiate those terms, either individually or collectively? What surprises me is that employees seem to accept this patently bizarre situation.

Nick-H · Sep 5th, 2009, 17:51

Employees here accept all kinds of crap: long hours, six-day weeks (or more!), being called for meetings late evenings or weekends.

Amazingly, this was the case even a year or so ago when good BPO staff could leave a job and be in a new one within a day or two.

ribhu95 · Sep 5th, 2009, 18:25

Please do pardon my language......there are decent employers and there are mud sucking employers....

The behaviour of the second category manifests in several forms including their approach to leave related policies.

All this stuff about india wide rule and law is all fully loaded bullshit.

ribhu

labrol · Sep 5th, 2009, 19:28

This aburdity is part of the government of India rules that continue unaltered from the British period. It would be interesting to see if it continues in Britain and other common wealth countries.

Nick-H · Sep 5th, 2009, 19:38

In Britain? No way!!!

punspans · Sep 5th, 2009, 19:44

i work in a private firm and was told of this rule on Day 1.
Basically Sat Sun Mon leaves count as 3 and not 2 leaves.

Haylo · Sep 5th, 2009, 19:46

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Originally Posted by labrol

This aburdity is part of the government of India rules that continue unaltered from the British period.

Are you absolutely sure about that? I have never heard of this in England, and the OP does not work for the Indian government.

If this was something which was introduced during the days of the British Raj, it is one of those archaic hangovers that should have been quashed years ago, along with homosexuality laws and who knows what else!

Nick-H · Sep 6th, 2009, 01:17

Britain had the advantage of a strong Trades Union movement in the meantime.

labrol · Sep 6th, 2009, 02:05

The absurdity goes further. Say a teacher takes two days leave before the two months summer vacation. He must join duty at least for half a day before the vacation begins or else he/she consumes all his/her leaves as part of the normal vacation period.

Several private organisations simply follow the Govt pattern to stay on the right side of the regulatory govt departments.

thejag · Sep 6th, 2009, 18:18

hey has somebody come across which section of which act this rule exists in? We could start a petition and petition the govt to change the rule....

labrol · Sep 6th, 2009, 19:51

The Government of India service rules are available in book form at law book stores. Look for the leave rules section. There is one such book shop in the Aurobindo place market in Delhi.It would be available in Chennai too. Or just ask for it from friends in Central Govt service.

Nick-H · Sep 6th, 2009, 20:08

Actually, having Sunday off in UK would have had little to do with trade unions and a lot to do with the church.

Everything used to close down on a Sunday; it used to be the national day of boredom

Haylo · Sep 6th, 2009, 20:33

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Originally Posted by Nick-H

Actually, having Sunday off in UK would have had little to do with trade unions and a lot to do with the church.

I don't understand the connection. There is no suggestion that the OP was expected to work on a Sunday, the discussion is about people who never work on Sundays losing a day's leave for the Sunday because they happen to have booked leave on the Saturday and Monday, both of which are working days.

Besides, it cannot be anything religious, as it applies to Saturday too. Apparently, if you normally work Monday to Friday, and have both Friday and Monday off, you lose four days leave!

Sep 5th, 2009, 19:28	#21
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Sep 5th, 2009, 15:52	#17
LilBoy BigTown Visionary Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Sydney Posts: 636	I had heard of it once or twice but this is the 1st I have seen someone being subjected to this most inhumane law (if it indeed is a law). I wonder if this applies to Govt employees as well? But honestly, no matter how you look at it, the emotion it brings out is disbelief and disgust. Its pointless to blame the corporates, the onus is on Govt to ensure work conditions are improved for Indian public. If you framed a law which is open to interpretation, people will take advantage of it. Mind boggles at the prospect of this happening in 21st century.

Sep 5th, 2009, 17:51	#19
Nick-H This is just a cameo appearance Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 36,225	Employees here accept all kinds of crap: long hours, six-day weeks (or more!), being called for meetings late evenings or weekends. Amazingly, this was the case even a year or so ago when good BPO staff could leave a job and be in a new one within a day or two.

Sep 5th, 2009, 18:25	#20
ribhu95 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 265	Please do pardon my language......there are decent employers and there are mud sucking employers.... The behaviour of the second category manifests in several forms including their approach to leave related policies. All this stuff about india wide rule and law is all fully loaded bullshit. ribhu

Sep 5th, 2009, 19:38	#22
Nick-H This is just a cameo appearance Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 36,225	In Britain? No way!!!

Sep 5th, 2009, 19:44	#23
punspans Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Mumbai Posts: 16	i work in a private firm and was told of this rule on Day 1. Basically Sat Sun Mon leaves count as 3 and not 2 leaves.

Sep 6th, 2009, 01:17	#25
Nick-H This is just a cameo appearance Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 36,225	Britain had the advantage of a strong Trades Union movement in the meantime.

Sep 6th, 2009, 02:05	#26
labrol Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Gurgaon, India Posts: 305	The absurdity goes further. Say a teacher takes two days leave before the two months summer vacation. He must join duty at least for half a day before the vacation begins or else he/she consumes all his/her leaves as part of the normal vacation period. Several private organisations simply follow the Govt pattern to stay on the right side of the regulatory govt departments.

Sep 6th, 2009, 18:18	#27
thejag has arrived Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 842	hey has somebody come across which section of which act this rule exists in? We could start a petition and petition the govt to change the rule....

Sep 6th, 2009, 19:51	#28
labrol Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Gurgaon, India Posts: 305	The Government of India service rules are available in book form at law book stores. Look for the leave rules section. There is one such book shop in the Aurobindo place market in Delhi.It would be available in Chennai too. Or just ask for it from friends in Central Govt service.