CLLS Syndrome

Familyonthemove · Apr 25th, 2007, 23:05

Anyone else suffering from CLLS?

It's a new syndrome effecting ex-pats that I've just invented ...

'Constant Low Level Stress'

You're enjoying the new experiences - but in the back of your mind there's always the 'what if .......'

What if my daughter gets sick?

What if we had an accident?

What's the number for fire/ambulance/emergency beer delivery service?

Where's the local doctor?

Is that dog rabid?

Is that spider poisonous?

Is this Taxi driver really going in the wrong direction?

Have I just got on the wrong train?

Years of experience in how to cope with anything that life throws at you in your home country are worth little in such a different environment.

I've done quite a bit of solo travel without a care in the world - but living in a different country with your family creates a constant background stress that can take the edge of the rich experience of living in India

.

PeakXV · Apr 25th, 2007, 23:46

As they say don't be scared be prepared!

puppydogben · Apr 26th, 2007, 01:42

No, Wouldn't have it any other way, it's why we do the things we do!

Nick-H · Apr 26th, 2007, 02:07

CLLS Syndrome?

I thought that was life?

It was worse in London than it is here.

ddevadatta · Apr 26th, 2007, 04:31

Stress is stress no matter what the name is. This is all part of regular ole fashioned "culture shock," which is normal apsect of living in a different environment and not having the safety nets one has relied on.

navinkurian2002 · Apr 26th, 2007, 07:55

Quote:

I thought that was life?

Yup those symptoms are very common in mumbai .

machadinha · Apr 26th, 2007, 08:52

Hm yes, you're not alone. This site from my sig may seem recognizable to you: http://www.doctortravel.ca/tips/culture_shock/

capt_mahajan · Apr 26th, 2007, 10:34

Two comments and an observation..

-what makes you think the issues you raise are only related to expats?
-what makes you think/imply that the solutions to some (eg medical attention) cannot be found locally?

Observation: You have to watch all 100 cars coming at you on the highway. But 99 are going to miss you anyway.

machadinha · Apr 26th, 2007, 11:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by capt_mahajan

-what makes you think the issues you raise are only related to expats?

One more for the Mod confessions section

:

This was originally under "Health." I moved it to "Moving-Not alone" forum as it seemed more fitting to me.

Ahh all the work going on behind your backs, lads/lassies

capt_mahajan · Apr 26th, 2007, 11:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Familyonthemove

It's a new syndrome effecting ex-pats that I've just invented ...

Mach, was referring to this part of the post... err, normally I dont see the forum

machadinha · Apr 26th, 2007, 11:39

Ah! OK. Well back to topic then. (Glad to have that sorted out, wipe-sweat smiley here.)

icetea · Apr 26th, 2007, 12:30

Familyonthemove, I think CLLS is mostly for expats with kids.
I too have the "symptoms" and because of that I have become quite irrascible since I live here, but I think the situation would be far worse if I also had kids to worry about!

cyberhippie · Apr 26th, 2007, 13:23

Having lived all over the place I can confidently state that people generally don't travel well. Take them out of their comfortable, familiar environment and watch then squirm. Just an observation not a judgment!!

Nick-H · Apr 26th, 2007, 20:03

I can tell you that i just HATE moving house.

We will be under a new roof, just a few kilometres away in the same city, by this time on Monday.

My poor wife is discovering all the nervous, irritable, irascible, nerve-racking bits of me that she hope will die down again when all this is over.

I wish I could just go to sleep until it is all over. But poor Mrs N deals with so much of the stuff that could cause us problems, that the least I can do is stay awake and be irritable!

Familyonthemove · Apr 27th, 2007, 02:00

Capt Mahajan - the only reason I'm unsure if the medical facilites are available locally is because I've not found them yet.

And in Mumbai you could die of old age before an ambualnce reached you .... so self help is essential .... and that may mean driving to the hospital - which could involved getting lost ..... several times. Hence the CLLS.

No judgement on local facilities..... it's just different here to the places I've lived before.

But good point made in the thread about kids. I've looked after myself in 14 countries - but kids increase CLLS to CHLS!

Does it get any better with time and experience? (CLLS that is .... not anything else!)

Apr 25th, 2007, 23:05	#1
Familyonthemove Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: On the move Posts: 321	CLLS Syndrome Anyone else suffering from CLLS? It's a new syndrome effecting ex-pats that I've just invented ... 'Constant Low Level Stress' You're enjoying the new experiences - but in the back of your mind there's always the 'what if .......' What if my daughter gets sick? What if we had an accident? What's the number for fire/ambulance/emergency beer delivery service? Where's the local doctor? Is that dog rabid? Is that spider poisonous? Is this Taxi driver really going in the wrong direction? Have I just got on the wrong train? Years of experience in how to cope with anything that life throws at you in your home country are worth little in such a different environment. I've done quite a bit of solo travel without a care in the world - but living in a different country with your family creates a constant background stress that can take the edge of the rich experience of living in India .

Apr 25th, 2007, 23:46	#2
PeakXV Naan.tering Nabob Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Abode of Glooscap Posts: 5,881	As they say don't be scared be prepared! __________________ What lies behind us and what lies ahead of us are tiny matters compared to what lives within us. ~ Oliver Wendell Holmes Don't go to India ~ Pre-trip Warnings & Misconceptions?

Apr 26th, 2007, 01:42	#3
puppydogben Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: SE Asia Posts: 281	No, Wouldn't have it any other way, it's why we do the things we do! __________________ Range after range of mountains Year after year after year I am still in love - Gary Snyder Up the Owls!

Apr 26th, 2007, 04:31	#5
ddevadatta Finger Licking Good Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 907	Stress is Stress Stress is stress no matter what the name is. This is all part of regular ole fashioned "culture shock," which is normal apsect of living in a different environment and not having the safety nets one has relied on. __________________ Ayurvedic cure for an Indian headache

Apr 26th, 2007, 08:52	#7
machadinha brother my cup is empty member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: yörp Posts: 14,391	Hm yes, you're not alone. This site from my sig may seem recognizable to you: http://www.doctortravel.ca/tips/culture_shock/ __________________ Reading tips, all picked up at IndiaMike : INDAX's A Comprehensive Guide To India / Dinoj Surendran's Desi Humor / ITHVC on Culture Shock & Travel Health / JetLag Travel Guides For the Undiscerning Traveller / India Travel Links

Apr 26th, 2007, 02:07	#4
Nick-H This is just a cameo appearance Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 36,213	CLLS Syndrome? I thought that was life? It was worse in London than it is here.

Apr 26th, 2007, 10:34	#8
capt_mahajan Infidel Sufi Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: styx Posts: 13,607	Two comments and an observation.. -what makes you think the issues you raise are only related to expats? -what makes you think/imply that the solutions to some (eg medical attention) cannot be found locally? Observation: You have to watch all 100 cars coming at you on the highway. But 99 are going to miss you anyway. __________________ . Outside the machine

Apr 26th, 2007, 11:39	#11
machadinha brother my cup is empty member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: yörp Posts: 14,391	Ah! OK. Well back to topic then. (Glad to have that sorted out, wipe-sweat smiley here.)

Apr 26th, 2007, 12:30	#12
icetea 'sort of hate India' club member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Chennai, via Romania Posts: 917	Familyonthemove, I think CLLS is mostly for expats with kids. I too have the "symptoms" and because of that I have become quite irrascible since I live here, but I think the situation would be far worse if I also had kids to worry about!

Apr 26th, 2007, 13:23	#13
cyberhippie Account Closed by User's Request Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: the Netherlands Posts: 6,009	Having lived all over the place I can confidently state that people generally don't travel well. Take them out of their comfortable, familiar environment and watch then squirm. Just an observation not a judgment!!

Apr 26th, 2007, 20:03	#14
Nick-H This is just a cameo appearance Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 36,213	I can tell you that i just HATE moving house. We will be under a new roof, just a few kilometres away in the same city, by this time on Monday. My poor wife is discovering all the nervous, irritable, irascible, nerve-racking bits of me that she hope will die down again when all this is over. I wish I could just go to sleep until it is all over. But poor Mrs N deals with so much of the stuff that could cause us problems, that the least I can do is stay awake and be irritable!

Apr 27th, 2007, 02:00	#15
Familyonthemove Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: On the move Posts: 321	Capt Mahajan - the only reason I'm unsure if the medical facilites are available locally is because I've not found them yet. And in Mumbai you could die of old age before an ambualnce reached you .... so self help is essential .... and that may mean driving to the hospital - which could involved getting lost ..... several times. Hence the CLLS. No judgement on local facilities..... it's just different here to the places I've lived before. But good point made in the thread about kids. I've looked after myself in 14 countries - but kids increase CLLS to CHLS! Does it get any better with time and experience? (CLLS that is .... not anything else!)

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