sprituality- the possibilities are endless!

sunspirt · Nov 4th, 2009, 04:57

ah, Paleface...
he means mum as in quite, refrain from speaking.
Not actually mother...

Aupmanyav · Nov 4th, 2009, 08:50

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Originally Posted by Aupmanyav

Beyond this, there is no space/time/energy/matter.

Basically, there is no beyond. 'Aadi' and 'anta' may be meeting, and it may be a 'closed' universe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed_...ed_Univers e).

Aupmanyav · Nov 4th, 2009, 08:53

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Originally Posted by cityMONK

bhagwn, why are you angry it suits me.

Bhante, I am not angry. Not at all. I was just explaining what I have understood. Do people not take recourse to falsehoods? Here, a smiley in reply.

Paleface · Nov 4th, 2009, 11:37

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Basically, there is no beyond. 'Aadi' and 'anta' may be meeting, and it may be a 'closed' universe.

These things do meet in the singularity which is beyond the horizon - but where the horizon of the universe is, is anybody's guess given that it is simply the limit of how far we can see from our position in the milky way. Light has a finite speed and the universe has been existing for a finite time which means we only see things which light has had time to reach us since big bang. So the observable universe is like a big bubble, but every day as the universe gets older by a day and expands, new things become visible.

And there are regions of space that are so dramatically warped that time loops back on itself, much the same as the space on an athletics track loops back on itself, they say a closed time like curvature is a time machine?

cityMONK · Nov 4th, 2009, 13:14

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Originally Posted by Paleface

These things do meet in the singularity which is beyond the horizon - but where the horizon of the universe is, is anybody's guess given that it is simply the limit of how far we can see from our position in the milky way. Light has a finite speed and the universe has been existing for a finite time which means we only see things which light has had time to reach us since big bang. So the observable universe is like a big bubble, but every day as the universe gets older by a day and expands, new things become visible.

And there are regions of space that are so dramatically warped that time loops back on itself, much the same as the space on an athletics track loops back on itself, they say a closed time like curvature is a time machine?

Is life, as exsists on earth, possible any where in whole universe.
If yes what are ways of interecting with it, Is this interaction allowed in scriptures.

delhiwala · Nov 4th, 2009, 14:03

Why ???

Do we do only these things which have been allowed in scriptures ??

Aupmanyav · Nov 4th, 2009, 14:59

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Originally Posted by cityMONK

Is life, as exsists on earth, possible any where in whole universe.
If yes what are ways of interecting with it, Is this interaction allowed in scriptures.

There are 100 billion galaxies each with 200 billion suns or so. So, the possibility of intelligent life existing somewhere is very high. Many of these are likely to have intelligent life.
However, contacting them is a problem. At the moment we know of 403 extra-solar planets listed at http://exoplanet.eu/catalog.php and 270 candidate planets. The nearest yet found is about 10 light-years away (in Epsilon Eridani, some 63 trillion miles away). The farthest yet found is OGLE-2006-BLG-109Lb, some 4900 light-years away (31 quadrillion miles, quadrillion is a thousand trillion). If there is intelligent life there (of our standard), by the time we send a message and receive a replyfrom the nearest extra-solar planet, it would be 20 years. But we are trying since the last 25 years or so. It would take 10,000 years to correspond with people on OGLE.

cityMONK · Nov 4th, 2009, 15:02

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Originally Posted by delhiwala

Why ???

Do we do only these things which have been allowed in scriptures ??

As some Scriptures say, to stay in country/Region your are Born into. Going far off to foreign lands, across 7 seas is discouraged. May be these things were very right then as they maintain social balance and also saves one from sudden exposure to different bacteria and viruses to which one is not immune.

What was fun of conquering whole world and being killed by viral infections on foreign lands?

Aupmanyav · Nov 4th, 2009, 16:38

As might have happened to Alexander, some say typhoid, some say maleria.

sunspirt · Nov 4th, 2009, 21:41

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Originally Posted by Aupmanyav

It would take 10,000 years to correspond with people on OGLE.

OGLE... interesting name for a planet...

jituyadav · Nov 4th, 2009, 21:50

And what an anti climax it would be if their first words are ‘stop ogling at us’!

Aupmanyav · Nov 4th, 2009, 21:50

Jituyadav

Well, there are so many galaxies (100 billion) and so many stars (say 200 billion in each galaxy, Milky Way being an average kind of galaxy), it is quite natural that we would run short of names.

sunspirt · Nov 4th, 2009, 21:53

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Originally Posted by jituyadav

And what an anti climax it would be if their first words are ‘stop ogling at us’!

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Originally Posted by Aupmanyav

it is quite natural that we would run short of names.

it appears so

cheryl.keaton · Nov 6th, 2009, 08:23

ok I just got to India yesterday morning and it is so beautiful, so much more than I ever expected. Words simply can not describe.
well This is an interesting philosophy "the only things that matter are the things that cannot be seen" (love, hate, pleasure, pain, truth, lies) unless acted through our human body. the thought that made you smile, dose it matter if you are tall skinny fat short,a man or a woman or maybe both? human body dies and what is left? something that cannot be seen. the thought is not created by matter. matter is created by the thought. is your point of view more real than the other, both are real at the same time. is something that is right in front of you overlooked because of your point of view? heaven or hell is that real? can one feel heaven on earth? hell on earth? is death on earth. the body is. is time and space real? or created by the mind? could it be that is is simply an illusion created by us? these are just ideas to get the forum going im not disagreeing with anyone in fact everyone is right. because it is real to you. if materiality is real to you than so be it, have fancy things but Im not so sure it can go with you to the grave like the things unseen. so if what you can see is real and what you cant is not then...well I just don't know about that

machadinha · Nov 6th, 2009, 08:40

"Blessed are they who can birth their neighbour's ox, for they shall inhibit their girth." -- Brian, in Monty Python's Life of Brian; as quoted by Mach the Elder in post #8 of this thread.

(As a belated albeit renewed addition to the tendency of some to just strew around some quotes here.)

btw Have a good time there, Cheryl; and I mean it, too.

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cheryl.keaton Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Bangalore, India Posts: 54	ok I just got to India yesterday morning and it is so beautiful, so much more than I ever expected. Words simply can not describe. well This is an interesting philosophy "the only things that matter are the things that cannot be seen" (love, hate, pleasure, pain, truth, lies) unless acted through our human body. the thought that made you smile, dose it matter if you are tall skinny fat short,a man or a woman or maybe both? human body dies and what is left? something that cannot be seen. the thought is not created by matter. matter is created by the thought. is your point of view more real than the other, both are real at the same time. is something that is right in front of you overlooked because of your point of view? heaven or hell is that real? can one feel heaven on earth? hell on earth? is death on earth. the body is. is time and space real? or created by the mind? could it be that is is simply an illusion created by us? these are just ideas to get the forum going im not disagreeing with anyone in fact everyone is right. because it is real to you. if materiality is real to you than so be it, have fancy things but Im not so sure it can go with you to the grave like the things unseen. so if what you can see is real and what you cant is not then...well I just don't know about that __________________ I hope to join a convent Last edited by cheryl.keaton : Nov 6th, 2009 at 09:40.

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