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Old Nov 3rd, 2009, 23:37   #526
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After death you will meet your true self face to face.
I've always wondereed about that,
does each life you live change who your true self is?
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Old Nov 3rd, 2009, 23:39   #527
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Let us understand this. Of course, all that happens in the universe is due to physical energy, all things are constituted by physical energy, you, me, adah, idam (that and this)*. "Sarve Khalu Idam Brahma' (all things here are Brahman). But that does not mean that I am a God and I can change the universe as I wish. That property belongs to the physical energy and not to me, though I too, am that, 'So aham' (I too, am the same).

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purnasya purnam adaya, purnam eva vasishyate.

(That is whole, this is whole, from that whole arises this whole;
when this whole is added to that whole, what results, verily, is still whole.)

What are limits of limitless universe.
what is byound infinite space.
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Old Nov 3rd, 2009, 23:44   #528
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But concept of good and evil deeds. My karmic account and decision on need for rebirth. Is it not strange why do i not rememeber my true self at all or my false self of previous birth.
You don't, because there is no rebirth. Good and evil are for a happy and peaceful society. You will get the fruits of some of your actions, good or evil, in this life itself. You will not get any fruit for some of your actions, good or evil. Your karmic account is closed with your dissolution in Brahman, the energy pool of the universe. Suits you? OK. Does not suit you? Take recourse to some falsehood to amuse yourself.
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Old Nov 3rd, 2009, 23:49   #529
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What are limits of limitless universe.
what is byound infinite space.
"The universe is 93 billion light-years across" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Univers...re.2C_and_laws) as per present estimates. Beyond this, there is no space/time/energy/matter.
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Old Nov 3rd, 2009, 23:52   #530
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Suits you? OK. Does not suit you? Take recourse to some falsehood.

bhagwn , why are you angry it suits me.
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"The universe is 93 billion light-years across" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Univers...re.2C_and_laws) as per present estimates. Beyond this, there is no space/time/energy/matter.

Yes this thought suffocates me, what is beyond that.waht after infinity.Even if "aadi" and "aant" meet somewhere waht atmosphere they are in and beyond that.Who is making and breaking all this "rachana".Why nobody can comprehend that.
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he's right you do seem angry by it.
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Old Nov 4th, 2009, 01:21   #533
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waht after infinity.Even if "aadi" and "aant" meet somewhere waht atmosphere they are in and beyond that.Who is making and breaking all this "rachana".Why nobody can comprehend that.
How can you contempalte space if you can't see it down in smoggidilli? Get out of the city bhai!! Come stargaze up in Himalayas and the beyond infinity worry will go away, i guarantee it, but other less far away worries will replace! But telling someone what to do, like giving advice is the easiest thing going, whether they do it or not depends upon their belief.

Right now everyone is scrabbling around trying to save the world by focusing on behaviours, thinking we can make things better by doing something. So we run around trying to see what we can do, rather than focusing on belief. The present Beliefs are slowly and literally killing us. It’s seems obvious that we cannot cure the world problems at the level of behaviour, only at the level of belief. After we change belief, automatically the behaviour changes with that shift in perception.

Those who really now how to motivate don’t tell people what to do, they bring about change by telling people what to believe. This obviously is dangerous or creative. Thought produces action, if we want someone to go out and kill another, then they won’t do it simply because we tell them to. We have to give a reason and reason only exists in thought. Get them to think in a certain way and give a belief that supports the action and then they will act in the way you want. Which is why, and someone said it very well, ‘ No one does anything inappropriate, given their model of the world’

It means there is no sin, heaven or hell, judgement day or retribution, only what works and what doesn’t work. Without sickness there is no health, no suffering without joy, these opposites must be there. If as CM says
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all that happens in the universe is due to physical energy, all things are constituted by physical energy, you, me, adah, idam (that and this)
, coming into us and not from us..

Energy is Life, We can call these things by different names but God and life are the same thing. Life is what god is and god is what life is, god is the energy that we call Life, and life is the energy that is called god. Life is god, physicalised. Nobody has to believe in god at all in order to use beliefs to change the world. All we have to do is believe in Life, and we do believe that is real for we are experiencing it. Naturally Life has its own physical and empirical laws but nothing about it judges or is prejudiced.
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Old Nov 4th, 2009, 02:09   #534
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[quote=cityMONK;851818Why nobody can comprehend that.[/QUOTE]

Which is precisely my question.....as far as this thread is concerned.
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Old Nov 4th, 2009, 02:37   #535
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Which is precisely my question.....as far as this thread is concerned.
Well all threads are part of the whole tapestry, whether any of us comprehend each and every thread or not - i don't see the point in dismissing that which is not comprehended, easier to keep quiet really? But anyhows you do comprehend something. Whether or not you wish to share it is about whether or not the questioner can withstand questioning, funny enough usually not, isn't it?
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Whether or not you wish to share it is about whether or not the questioner can withstand questioning, funny enough usually not, isn't it?
Quite...which is why it's more perturbing than funny....

I seem to often raise your angst....very well then...let me try and follow your dictat...and keep quiet.


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you guys, stop it.
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Old Nov 4th, 2009, 03:17   #538
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Quite...which is why it's more perturbing than funny.... I seem to often raise your angst....very well then...let me try and follow your dictat...and keep quiet. Have a nice day.
I will thanks. Look no hostility intended that's your perception only. Neither was any dictat being flagged or angst being raised old son. We're free to comment or not - just predicting your reaction which we both know was on form. Thing is, qualifying what is perturbing would be opening oneself to question. But if a questioner will not accept questions, well that is a tiny bit one sided, notwithstanding that it speaks volumes.
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let me try and follow your dictat...and keep quiet.
Mum's the word...
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