Om meaning in other religions

passingby · Apr 18th, 2006, 19:39

I am reading a book now 'The Truth is' by Sri H.W.L Poonja and I came across a phrase that states that the Hindu 'Om' has been picked up by the Christians and rename it 'Amen' and by the Muslims, who call it 'Ammin'.

Could that be it? Could Amen be the equivalent of the Hindu OM?

cyberhippie · Apr 18th, 2006, 19:50

Let's put it this way Passingbye it's not the first time I've heard the theory!! so there could well be some truth in it!!

Sama · Apr 18th, 2006, 21:32

That is a very common belief/theory.

Merchant · Apr 18th, 2006, 21:42

Except that Amen is Hebrew, meaning "So be it," and the Christians got it from the Jews.

cyberhippie · Apr 18th, 2006, 21:48

Nice one Merchant that's that one put to bed, the next logical question would be where did the Jews take the word from but I've already googled and it seems there's an explanation for that as well!!

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The word Amen is related to the the Hebrew word "Emunah" that means faith and/or belief. Therefore reciting Amen to a blessing or a prayer demonstrates a statement of affirmation that the blessing is true and hope that the prayer will be answered.

Amen is also an acronym. It stands for three words: Aiy'l Melech Ne-eman (G-d is a true and faithful king).

Of course these meanings may have been added after the spritiual use of the word was already in use to add weight to the religion if you like!!

Who knows!!

cyberhippie · Apr 18th, 2006, 21:51

Anyone else with something new on this, I know for sure it's not the first time the an idea has been hijacked by religion to further their cause.
Passingbye does it give an indication as to why the author thinks this might be so???

dan37_123 · Apr 18th, 2006, 21:52

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Originally Posted by passingby

I am reading a book now 'The Truth is' by Sri H.W.L Poonja and I came across a phrase that states that the Hindu 'Om' has been picked up by the Christians and rename it 'Amen' and by the Muslims, who call it 'Ammin'.

Could that be it? Could Amen be the equivalent of the Hindu OM?

No, i do not think so.

Christianity and Islam are monotheistic, so I do not think they will accept any concept from other philosphical schools.

good luck
dan

cyberhippie · Apr 18th, 2006, 21:57

Huh the ideas of the Holy trinity and ressurection are not new more borrowed!!

Sama · Apr 18th, 2006, 22:06

you can google "meaning of OM" and come up with many different things. It may be pronounced "om", but should be written as "aum" representing specific states of consciousness. The silence after M is just as significant as the pronouncement of AUM.

jyotirmoy · Apr 18th, 2006, 22:12

OM is a Primordial sound...... in the begining as our Upanishadas write there was this sound.. the sound that emanetes from the naval region... unlike let there be light... we have let there be the sound...
Om Sarba mongoley mongoley Shive e sarbusthoo swadhitey swarney trombokey Gauri Naryan e namustute.....

Merchant · Apr 18th, 2006, 22:14

Yeah, I thought the point of OM was that it didn't mean anything at all--just the nothingness at the center of the existence . . .

passingby · Apr 18th, 2006, 22:15

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Passingbye does it give an indication as to why the author thinks this might be so???

he really doesn't specify much more. he just says that somehow Christianity is influenced by Hinduism.
there is a small story in the book associated with the belief that Amen originated from Om. the story tells that the author met two Christians one in Greece and one in Spain who did not go to Church to pray, but they meditated at home. These two people were enlightened. The guy in Spain worn an Om around his neck and he mediated with an Om in front of him.

Paagla Dashu · Apr 18th, 2006, 22:18

Why is the word for mother sounds similar in many languages across the globe?

There are some sounds that are very similar regardless of languages - (another example will be the word for "No") - most of us know little about th history of prehistoric languages / sounds.

jyotirmoy · Apr 18th, 2006, 22:23

passingby,
A decade ago I was in northern Spain... a place called San Sebastian... I met some one who told me to walk an ancient pilgrimage trail... I started off walking from Bilabao to Santiago... I was told I would meet a guide everyday.. really fantastic .. the brooks the monestaries.. the meadows.. the villages ... the choritos(kind of sun dried salamis)...

jyotirmoy · Apr 18th, 2006, 22:24

PD what about Ma .. Mom ... Mummy.... Ammma??

Apr 18th, 2006, 19:39	#1
passingby Account Closed Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 436	Om meaning in other religions I am reading a book now 'The Truth is' by Sri H.W.L Poonja and I came across a phrase that states that the Hindu 'Om' has been picked up by the Christians and rename it 'Amen' and by the Muslims, who call it 'Ammin'. Could that be it? Could Amen be the equivalent of the Hindu OM?

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Sama a pain in the asana Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: the India inside my heart Posts: 5,434	That is a very common belief/theory. __________________ *My India, 2005-2008* BE THE REVOLUTION

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Apr 18th, 2006, 19:50	#2
cyberhippie Account Closed by User's Request Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: the Netherlands Posts: 6,012	Let's put it this way Passingbye it's not the first time I've heard the theory!! so there could well be some truth in it!!

Apr 18th, 2006, 21:42	#4
Merchant Maha Guru Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: New York Posts: 2,096	Except that Amen is Hebrew, meaning "So be it," and the Christians got it from the Jews.

Apr 18th, 2006, 21:51	#6
cyberhippie Account Closed by User's Request Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: the Netherlands Posts: 6,012	Anyone else with something new on this, I know for sure it's not the first time the an idea has been hijacked by religion to further their cause. Passingbye does it give an indication as to why the author thinks this might be so???

Apr 18th, 2006, 21:57	#8
cyberhippie Account Closed by User's Request Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: the Netherlands Posts: 6,012	Huh the ideas of the Holy trinity and ressurection are not new more borrowed!!

Apr 18th, 2006, 22:06	#9
Sama a pain in the asana Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: the India inside my heart Posts: 5,434	you can google "meaning of OM" and come up with many different things. It may be pronounced "om", but should be written as "aum" representing specific states of consciousness. The silence after M is just as significant as the pronouncement of AUM.

Apr 18th, 2006, 22:12	#10
jyotirmoy Maha Guru Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 4,659	OM is a Primordial sound...... in the begining as our Upanishadas write there was this sound.. the sound that emanetes from the naval region... unlike let there be light... we have let there be the sound... Om Sarba mongoley mongoley Shive e sarbusthoo swadhitey swarney trombokey Gauri Naryan e namustute.....

Apr 18th, 2006, 22:14	#11
Merchant Maha Guru Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: New York Posts: 2,096	Yeah, I thought the point of OM was that it didn't mean anything at all--just the nothingness at the center of the existence . . .

Apr 18th, 2006, 22:18	#13
Paagla Dashu Unreasonably Unreasonable Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Where They Wear Clogs Posts: 1,222	Why is the word for mother sounds similar in many languages across the globe? There are some sounds that are very similar regardless of languages - (another example will be the word for "No") - most of us know little about th history of prehistoric languages / sounds.

Apr 18th, 2006, 22:23	#14
jyotirmoy Maha Guru Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 4,659	passingby, A decade ago I was in northern Spain... a place called San Sebastian... I met some one who told me to walk an ancient pilgrimage trail... I started off walking from Bilabao to Santiago... I was told I would meet a guide everyday.. really fantastic .. the brooks the monestaries.. the meadows.. the villages ... the choritos(kind of sun dried salamis)...

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jyotirmoy Maha Guru Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 4,659	PD what about Ma .. Mom ... Mummy.... Ammma??

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