gurus dark sides.....

Wazen · Oct 11th, 2006, 02:27

Trika Yogi,
You make some really good points.
That website you posted is scarry. Thats like radical christianity. Seems like these people are the real terrorists who want to attack Americans and our so called freedom.

Sama · Oct 11th, 2006, 02:43

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Originally Posted by Trika_yogi

You read a scripture or two(often not even understanding the real esoteric meaning) and feeling you know everything about everything. Anyone who has spent time in the Yahoo Buddhist chat channels have come across millions of these people.

PUH-LEEZ! You really can't limit that to Buddhist chat rooms. From what I know about the Hindu chat room on AOL, it's pretty much the same thing....or else it's just people hitting on each other.

"religious" chat rooms are a joke, IMO.

Trika_yogi · Oct 11th, 2006, 03:28

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Originally Posted by yogagal60510

PUH-LEEZ! You really can't limit that to Buddhist chat rooms.

No need to get defensive as a Buddhist, i wasn't limiting it to anything actually. The only online chatroom I have been in is yahoo chats, and the only religous chat that has an inkling of knowledge getting tossed around is the buddhist one. The yahoo hindu chat is nothing more than Paki's and Hindus sending each other death threats.

Religous defensiveness makes me giggle, cause i do it too. Just our own egos getting bruised really.

Wazen · Oct 11th, 2006, 03:46

What about the Shiva Babas that dress in black?
I have yet to see one in person.
It was said these Babas are into the dark, destructive force of Shiva, and nothing else.
Do these Babas exist?

On the same note, this Japanese kid I lived with for many weeks told me a strange story.
He once met a Baba who confessed to murder! Baba said he killed a man who was very, very bad. So the Baba felt it was justified. Kinda weird.

Trika_yogi · Oct 11th, 2006, 03:53

Like the Shakta Kapaliks? They exist, i haven't seen many of them, but if you hit some festivals, like the Melas, you will see em.

They dress in black and drink out of skulls

In all honesty i dont know much about Shakta Tantrics.

Wazen · Oct 11th, 2006, 03:59

Dude thats straight up evil, in a fascinating, intriguing sorta way. Can someone tell me more about these dark, seemingly nihilistic Babas of destruction?
I have to meet one!
Maybe he uses the skull as a chillum aswell!-(Just kidding)

Edit: So I just googled: Shakti Kapalika. No pictues at all.. Does anyone have a picture?

Sama · Oct 11th, 2006, 04:11

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Originally Posted by Trika_yogi

The yahoo hindu chat is nothing more than Paki's and Hindus sending each other death threats.

and after one time in the yahoo yoga room, I had to take a shower to wash off all the slime.....

Wazen · Oct 11th, 2006, 04:12

Okay this is bad ass. Check this out:
http://concise.britannica.com/ebc/ar...-and-Kalamukha

Kapalika and Kalamukha

Members of either of two groups of extreme Hindu ascetics, prominent in India in the 8th–13th century.

They were an offshoot of the Shaivites (see Shaivism), who worshiped Shiva, and their notorious practices included human sacrifice. After sacrificing a Brahman or other high-ranking person, they embraced a 12-year vow of self-abnegation that included eating and drinking from the skull of the sacrificed person and following tantric practices such as going about naked, eating the flesh of the dead, and smearing themselves with the ashes of corpses. Their modern successors are the Aghoris, or Aghorapanthis.

Sama · Oct 11th, 2006, 04:13

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Originally Posted by Wazen

Baba said he killed a man who was very, very bad. So the Baba felt it was justified.

in Texas that's called the "he needed killin'" defense....

(you think I'm kidding?)

Wazen · Oct 11th, 2006, 04:19

Sacrifice a brahman, eat his dead body, drink from his skull for the next 12 years, but first burn the body and roll around in the ashes. Then, of course, smoking from a chillum for Puja.

It just dosent get any more dark and evil.

Yogagal, I like the dark humor

Perhaps when I come across such a Baba, ill buy him a chai and samosa. Hopefully he will discard the glass and use his favorite drinking skull. Maybe he calls it by a name aswell.
Then after we talk about how cannabilism and murder relates to god,
we'll share a chillum full of happiness.

... So anyone got a picture? I want to know who to look for...

Aurai · Oct 11th, 2006, 04:23

My guess is that the show that was watched was "penn and tellers Bullsh*t" And it was just that....... They poorly researched that show, and juggled the truth around, just to upset people. It's thier shtick...only entertainment...if you want to you can research the claims made and see just how they worked it. I say Tisk ,tisk.

Mother_is_calling · Oct 11th, 2006, 04:28

The need for the ego to compare/contrast and judge is endless, and a source of energy from which it feeds and strengthens.

I cannot truly understand why someone acts in a particular way at a particular time, nor do I need to. But my ego will certainly jump in and form assumptions and opinions out of thin air.

Such is lila. Such is the veil.

Namaste...

Trika_yogi · Oct 11th, 2006, 05:27

""My necklace and ornaments are of human bones; I dwell among the ashes of the dead and eat my food in human skulls. I look with eyes brightened with the antinomy of Yoga, and believe that the parts of this world are reciprocally different, but that the whole is not different from God. ...After fasting we drink liquor out of the skulls of Brahmans; our sacred fires are fed with the brains and lungs of men mixed up with their flesh, and human beings covered with the fresh blood gushing from the dreadful wound in their throats, are the offerings by which we appease the terrible god (Maha Bhairava)."

I like these guys, im switching sects.

robotvoice · Oct 11th, 2006, 05:36

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Originally Posted by Wazen

... So anyone got a picture? I want to know who to look for...

i think they look something like this... note the white ash on the face.

Trika_yogi · Oct 11th, 2006, 05:40

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Originally Posted by robotvoice

i think they look something like this... note the white ash on the face.

I knew there was something deeper about Kiss.

Oct 11th, 2006, 04:12	#38
Wazen Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Wahiawa, Hawaii Posts: 264	Babas in Black Okay this is bad ass. Check this out: http://concise.britannica.com/ebc/ar...-and-Kalamukha Kapalika and Kalamukha Members of either of two groups of extreme Hindu ascetics, prominent in India in the 8th–13th century. They were an offshoot of the Shaivites (see Shaivism), who worshiped Shiva, and their notorious practices included human sacrifice. After sacrificing a Brahman or other high-ranking person, they embraced a 12-year vow of self-abnegation that included eating and drinking from the skull of the sacrificed person and following tantric practices such as going about naked, eating the flesh of the dead, and smearing themselves with the ashes of corpses. Their modern successors are the Aghoris, or Aghorapanthis.

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Oct 11th, 2006, 02:27	#31
Wazen Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Wahiawa, Hawaii Posts: 264	Trika Yogi, You make some really good points. That website you posted is scarry. Thats like radical christianity. Seems like these people are the real terrorists who want to attack Americans and our so called freedom.

Oct 11th, 2006, 03:46	#34
Wazen Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Wahiawa, Hawaii Posts: 264	What about the Shiva Babas that dress in black? I have yet to see one in person. It was said these Babas are into the dark, destructive force of Shiva, and nothing else. Do these Babas exist? On the same note, this Japanese kid I lived with for many weeks told me a strange story. He once met a Baba who confessed to murder! Baba said he killed a man who was very, very bad. So the Baba felt it was justified. Kinda weird.

Oct 11th, 2006, 03:53	#35
Trika_yogi Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Palm Coast, FL Posts: 98	Like the Shakta Kapaliks? They exist, i haven't seen many of them, but if you hit some festivals, like the Melas, you will see em. They dress in black and drink out of skulls In all honesty i dont know much about Shakta Tantrics.

Oct 11th, 2006, 03:59	#36
Wazen Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Wahiawa, Hawaii Posts: 264	Dude thats straight up evil, in a fascinating, intriguing sorta way. Can someone tell me more about these dark, seemingly nihilistic Babas of destruction? I have to meet one! Maybe he uses the skull as a chillum aswell!-(Just kidding) Edit: So I just googled: Shakti Kapalika. No pictues at all.. Does anyone have a picture?

Oct 11th, 2006, 04:19	#40
Wazen Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Wahiawa, Hawaii Posts: 264	Sacrifice a brahman, eat his dead body, drink from his skull for the next 12 years, but first burn the body and roll around in the ashes. Then, of course, smoking from a chillum for Puja. It just dosent get any more dark and evil. Yogagal, I like the dark humor Perhaps when I come across such a Baba, ill buy him a chai and samosa. Hopefully he will discard the glass and use his favorite drinking skull. Maybe he calls it by a name aswell. Then after we talk about how cannabilism and murder relates to god, we'll share a chillum full of happiness. ... So anyone got a picture? I want to know who to look for...

Oct 11th, 2006, 04:23	#41
Aurai Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Samsara Posts: 49	My guess is that the show that was watched was "penn and tellers Bullsh*t" And it was just that....... They poorly researched that show, and juggled the truth around, just to upset people. It's thier shtick...only entertainment...if you want to you can research the claims made and see just how they worked it. I say Tisk ,tisk.

Oct 11th, 2006, 04:28	#42
Mother_is_calling Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Washington State, USA Posts: 23	The need for the ego to compare/contrast and judge is endless, and a source of energy from which it feeds and strengthens. I cannot truly understand why someone acts in a particular way at a particular time, nor do I need to. But my ego will certainly jump in and form assumptions and opinions out of thin air. Such is lila. Such is the veil. Namaste...

Oct 11th, 2006, 05:27	#43
Trika_yogi Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Palm Coast, FL Posts: 98	""My necklace and ornaments are of human bones; I dwell among the ashes of the dead and eat my food in human skulls. I look with eyes brightened with the antinomy of Yoga, and believe that the parts of this world are reciprocally different, but that the whole is not different from God. ...After fasting we drink liquor out of the skulls of Brahmans; our sacred fires are fed with the brains and lungs of men mixed up with their flesh, and human beings covered with the fresh blood gushing from the dreadful wound in their throats, are the offerings by which we appease the terrible god (Maha Bhairava)." I like these guys, im switching sects.

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