Becoming Hindu

crvlvr · May 2nd, 2008, 03:46

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Originally Posted by Nick-H

Errr.... GOTO post #1!

And you'll find she is very well aware of that and doesn't want to.

i wonder why when all it seems is like a registered /court marriage.

Nick-H · May 2nd, 2008, 04:41

...See her post #9.

You haven't done your homework on this one!

crvlvr · May 2nd, 2008, 06:20

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Originally Posted by Nick-H

...See her post #9.

You haven't done your homework on this one!

For sure. .I am scrambling to head out to Europe this evening..

In regards to the OP's concerned about her hubby being "severed" from the Hindu family, what exactly does that mean? AFAIK, he will not lose any rights to family property etc. However, lets say he does. IT becoes an issue only if there is HUF (hindu undivided family) property and the head of the family wants to not give him his share. Now, if that is the case even if she "converts" and has a hindu wedding, the head of the family can still decide to not give the husband his fair share. He will have to file a law suit, which will go on for generations.

Assuming there is HUF property involved (as I can see no other reason for not wanting to be "severed" from the family) and there is a risk that this wedding might jeopradize his share, he should get it straightened out - claim his share - before he gets married. Some related links:

http://www.hindu.com/pp/2004/06/19/s...1900170503.htm
http://www.mukeshraj.com/faq.html

kristinm · May 2nd, 2008, 07:51

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Originally Posted by Nick-H

But some Hindus I know seem to be very inclusive about such things. They just seem to like religion! Gods: Buy one, Get one free!

You mean like this? I love this ....

http://www.indiamike.com/photopost/s...9/ppuser/18940

manojb · May 2nd, 2008, 09:06

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Originally Posted by manojb

If your fiance belongs to a HUF and has rights to ancestral property, you should be concerned about marrying under the Special Marriage Act. However, taking legal advice is advisable, especially as there is no controlling decision of the Supreme Court on the effect of Section 19 (which you have quoted).

In Commissioner of Wealth Tax and Ors. vs. R. Sridharan (1972), the Supreme Court interpreted a related provision (Section 21, which provides that succession of persons married under the Special Marriage Act shall be governed by the Indian Succession Act, 1925 and not by the personal laws of the parties) and held that sons/daughters of a Hindu father married under the Special Marriage Act could form a HUF with him, provided they were brought up as Hindus. But the question about the father's status in a previous HUF involving his father and brothers did not come up for consideration as that HUF had been partitioned before the marriage took place.

manojb · May 2nd, 2008, 09:08

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Originally Posted by Nick-H

I didn't know there was no waiting period for Hindu marriages.

How else do you think all those young guys and girls elope and get married?

Elope and marry on the same day and present a fait accompli to the parents.

madan80 · May 2nd, 2008, 10:24

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Originally Posted by capt_mahajan

and airconditioning in hell

and a tea-shop started by a malaylee!

to add my 2 cents... IMHO - the Hindu Undivided Family is taken as a legal entitiy- such that you can file your taxes as a family. I think a lot of information has already been shared on the legalities of the entire situation. Recently, two very good friends of mine went through the arya samaj wedding process, IIRC with the conversion et al.

But as they say about hinduism - its not a religion - but a way of life!

Nick-H · May 2nd, 2008, 12:51

Manojb, can you recommend a link to learn more about HUFs?

capt_mahajan · May 2nd, 2008, 13:03

To my limited knowledge, HUF is a tax thing, setup to pay lower income tax. Dunno if eligbility here automatically translates into it being taken as a conversion for other purposes. I somehow doubt it.

http://www.incometaxindia.gov.in/Act...%20ACT/171.asp

Indojingai · May 2nd, 2008, 16:03

OP: Dont do it. Its not worth it IMO.

The list of wedding accessories increments by one.

anarkali · May 2nd, 2008, 16:36

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Originally Posted by karuna

Following an unfortunate discovery of a Gideon's bible in a Delhi hotel, my parents and I were forced to try to explain the story of Jesus to our driver.

The Gideons translate John 3.16 (for god so loved the world he gave his only son that whoever believes in him will not die but have everlasting life) in Hindi, but not the rest. Cue much confusion.

How on earth is an entirely atheist family supposed to explain what that means to a lifelong Hindu who's never set foot in a church and has no idea what the bible is?

"Well, god had a son who is also god, same god, but separate separate, and he came to earth and said many good things, then he died, but he didn't really...."

:ROTFL:!

anarkali · May 2nd, 2008, 16:39

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Originally Posted by nayan

I can go into any cathedral in the world, pray and light candles(and pay for them). would that make me a christian?

No, but obtaining baptism (possible for a person of any age) would.

Just a point of order! :]

manojb · May 2nd, 2008, 16:40

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Originally Posted by Nick-H

Manojb, can you recommend a link to learn more about HUFs?

Wikipedia has a reasonably good article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_joint_family

Also, please note that a HUF means different things in different contexts. For the purposes of Income Tax and Wealth Tax, there is one definition and for the purposes of the Hindu Succession Act (as noted in the above article).

Another article on how succession works in a HUF (with a focus on gender issues): http://www.payer.de/dharmashastra/dharmash09b.htm

brishti · May 2nd, 2008, 16:42

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Normally I would not care about legalities and religion.
But, I am marrying a hindu man and we want to get married here in india and neither one of us feels comfortable with signing what is required for the Special Marriage Act.

what is it that is so disconcerting to you and your fiancee about HUF?
being severed from the family? and/or inheritance rights?

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I been living as a hindu for many years now

what does this mean?

anyways - you have [ in this thread ] all the answers and then some to all your queries.
personally, i find your post/s a tad confusing - but then again thats just me

:brishti

anarkali · May 2nd, 2008, 16:47

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Originally Posted by kristinm

You mean like this? I love this ....

http://www.indiamike.com/photopost/s...9/ppuser/18940

Kristin, this looks like the Christian shrines we saw in Diu (camera photo download crapped out, so sadly no pix!!) - Portuguese colony, so some Christians there. Just gorgeous. Lights, candles, flowers, virgin Mary, the works! :]

Imagine you can see similar in Daman or Goa.

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