Holi safe for single woman traveler?

#31 Jan 27th, 2012, 13:30
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A woman who is "lose"? Did she get lost in the crowd? Or a lady who is "loose"? Until Indian mentalities change in their conception of what constitutes louche behaviour, Holi will continue to be a dangerous time for the female sex.

My own experiences of (two) Holi celebrations were very joyful. We (my hubby and I) were invited by friends in Kolkata to "play holi" with them in their house. This is a safer way to enjoy throwing colours rather than risk it out on the streets.
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Chastity, if you are alone, don't venture out. If you are with friends, it may be fine. People do get rowdy in holi, wherever you are.
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Nameste Chastity, I see you live in the Bronx. So you have an idea of street life weirdness. Listening to all these folks in India warning you of Holi, perhaps you could tell them of the dangers of wandering the Bronx. Go to Varanasi, enjoy Holi. It's like a big mosh pit. Surely you've been to a bar with a mosh pit? I see single women at Holi. They don't look to me scared for their life. You've been to India. You saw how easy it was to meet fellow travelers in the dining room of your hotel. Go celebrate Holi with someone you share chai with and enjoy their company. For sure the men of India get a bit carried away. The young men are sexually repressed. I've always found it interesting to see them dirty dancing with each other, dry humping one another at weddings and street celebrations, while the women dance off by themselves. Strange culture in many aspects. Enjoy Holi in the daytime. Go watch puja on the Ganga at Dhaswadema ghat(might not be spelled correctly) at night, more relaxing for your soul. If you let paranoia rule your life over what may happen when most likely nothing will you will never enjoy life's adventures. Don't be too concerned about these doom and gloom replies to this thread. Holi if fun. Varanasi is a great place to visit long after Holi. You will eventually get used to the smell. Phew!!!!!! Happy holi
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Back with the balls again.
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Originally Posted by Prakaant View Post You would not find any body celebrating Holi in southern part of India
Except Hyderabad and its adjoining districts.

Holi could be difficult to handle for woman who is alone(or even with a group of females),especially in larger cities. Lot of uncouth teenagers/men riding bikes while throwing colours/eggs is a common scene across India. The situation might get worse with women on the streets. My knowledge of Holi celebrations is confined to big cities and varanasi being a religious place might be slightly better, but it's best to avoid the main streets.
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@michael_sunkist: That's Dashaashvamedha, in case you want to correct it. That's where the "ten-horse sacrifice" used to be carried out. If you want an elaborate description of this ceremony read Book 4 of Gore Vidal's Creation.
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Got to agree with Michael, I've seen lots of women, including single women out enjoying color day. The chance of drunks rubbing up against you or copping a feel is there of course but some/many women get by without any major problems.
But certainly if you can join a group that would reduce the chances of sleaze spoiling the experience.
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Originally Posted by michael sunkist View Post Dhaswadema ghat(might not be spelled correctly)
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Originally Posted by Golghar View Post @michael_sunkist: That's Dashaashvamedha, in case you want to correct it.
Also commonly transliterated as Dashashwamedh, and then no doubt some variations

I'd agree btw, you won't soon hear me saying one has to lock oneself in, or one must not go out. I reckon the poster has been given her due cautions, now may have some idea of what to expect, and will be (wo-) man enough to make up their own mind between the lot

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Originally Posted by prince09 View Post Holi could be difficult to handle for woman who is alone(or even with a group of females)
Yes; it's not unheard of for groups of men and women to run into undue trouble, even. So, hence again those normal cautions.

It's also why I thought a comment like

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Originally Posted by michael sunkist View Post well for sure anywhere in India is safer for a single male traveler basically because we know how to fight if provoked.
I find just BS, if you don't mind me saying so. Inasmuch as it presumes that a) no woman can defend herself, and that b) all men can, and both under all circumstances.

Same as for a mosh pit at home etc., yes, I spent quite some time in such. Thing is I belonged there and know my way around, moreover that particular scene typically revolves around precisely (or ideally, at least...) sexual and other equality. (For good or for worse, I know it's not always quite as rosy-colored. Shall we leave that discussion to somewhere else?)

There's just no comparison, whatsoever. Nor will you necessarily hook up with "cool" travelers all the time and everywhere (who one may themselves sometimes need to take some care with, btw); in Varanasi, yes maybe, quite likely. In some other places, you may scarcely see another whitey for weeks.

Nor, again, will it necessarily shield you from all. Didn't Darmabum who's really spent yonks in Varanasi describe before on this thread how just crossing the street during Holi with female friends he didn't always find easy and in fact sometimes intimidating over the years?
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I don't know ... it sort of seems like a massive, no holds barred, snowball fight only with powder(s) & chemical/synthetic/vegetal(?) dyes. Eye protection would be my primary concern .....
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Eye protection would be my primary concern .....
And mine, once those t-shirts get soaked.
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Nameste, yes, all female travelers should yield to fear and stay away from India until Holi is over. What a crock of %$@#!!!! Yes, I do know women can also fight. My wife knows karate and can kick my butt any day of the week. Happy trails to all, and Happy Holi to those female travelers who don't let fear run their lives.
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Originally Posted by michael sunkist View Post yes, all female travelers should yield to fear and stay away from India until Holi is over.
But I don't think anyone (well, not many) ever said so.

But, sure, folks, dive right in! It's a mosh pit! Just like The Bronx, where you know your way around!
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yes, all female travelers should yield to fear and stay away from India until Holi is over
Why are you incapable of taking a simple view of this? It is nothing to do with fear, nor is it anything to do with having someone brush up against you a little closer than is welcome. Of course, all that is possible, but so is nursing severely bruised and twisted breasts for the next few days. The one thing you have not done is to ask the women. Sorry, the second thing you have not done is to listen to the women.

Believe it or not, most women prefer to avoid situations in which they are likely to be sexually assaulted, because they don't think it's fun. That doesn't mean that they never, ever get on a train or bus, or go out in public, or go to a party. Some might even regard a passionate kiss from a complete stranger at something like a public New Year's Eve gathering: it is not the same as a violent assault.

Your whole point of view is that, whether that risk is great or small, hey, it's worth it for a bit of messy, wet fun. You don't seem to accept any middle way, such as a family event, or watching from a balcony: it's the centre of the scrum or nothing. It's an insensitive point of view.

Mosh pit --- weird!
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Holi on streets....??? A big NO...
Try to enjoy it with some friends at their place...
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If you are a female who could be considered sexually attractive by drunk men then you have an increased risk of sexual assault in Benares during Holi. You can have fun playing inside with people you know who visit you. You can go out at night when the wet colors are away and only dry colors are being used.

Ways to reduce your risk of assault if you choose to participate on the streets:

* be aware that you are doing something that local girls would never do
* conservative dress
* do not play alone
* do not play with females in your immediate group
* be prepared to immediately punch or have a friend punch anyone who touches you inappropriately; this is the only proper response
* do not accept food or beverages from strangers; everyone will have bhang everywhere in everything, include sweets, pakora, drinks, and everything else

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