Why not a ropeway from Guptkashi to Kedarnath

#1 Jun 29th, 2010, 11:33
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I don not know why Govt of Uttrakhand never plans to start a Ropeway from Guptkashi/Ukhimath to Kedarnath. UK govt can request top Industrialists like Birlas / Ambanis for sponser, and i am sure they will sponser this project gladly.

There are top class ropeways in Switzerland , Nepal and other countries. In Nepal there is a ropeway from Mugling to Manokamna Devi Temple situated at 6500 Ft above sea level.
There is a ropeway in Auli also.
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Do you think it's posible ? Although I am not an expert onthis matter, but as far as I know, Ropeways are generally for smaller distances only.
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Their are the local pony and dhole lobying guys who are against introducing rope ways. The uttarkhand government has plans to start the rope from rambara to kedarnath
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Originally Posted by n kumar View Post Their are the local pony and dhole lobying guys who are against introducing rope ways. The uttarkhand government has plans to start the rope from rambara to kedarnath
Hi Mr Kumar & all Friends
Ropeway from Rambara will not solve the problem of traffic jams between Sitapur and Gaurikund and journey from Gaurikund to Rambara is not easy either on foot or by Pony, that ropeway will be useless. They have to search a new place near Phata, Ukhimath, Guptkashi or any suitable place to solve the problem of traffic jams, Pony and Kandi will also continue, they will start as usual from Gaurikund.
Further the pathway is made of stone, which is very very risky, in case someone falls from Horse , there are chances of serious injuries. The pathway needs repair and it has to be made similar to Vaishnav Devi route with shelters to save the visitors from rains.

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Vaishno Devi has now become more of a picnic spot with all those Moderns Cafes and Pizzeria along the trek (?) route.

I am sure many of us do not want Kedarnath to imitate that. If that happens it will be ruined.
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I do not support such an idea due to many reasons. First and foremost, I don’t want to see ugly wires and trolleys hanging in mid air, spoiling all the mesmerising views that nature has to offer.

Second, ropeways are a waste of assets, too expensive, both financially and environmentally.

Third, this will attract all those people for whom nature comes second and convenience first, resulting in crowd of pampered and careless tourists, which will be a disaster for nature lovers like me, because frankly, I despise such people.

And lastly, pilgrimages are a test of faith, and believe me, I have seen old people who are not able to walk half a kilometre in cities, completing the most difficult trek just because of faith. This is inspiring and shows the power of mind over matter.
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Originally Posted by jituyadav View Post Third, this will attract all those people for whom nature comes second and convenience first, resulting in crowd of pampered and careless tourists, which will be a disaster for nature lovers like me, because frankly, I despise such people.

Already does, to an extent. All the litter by the wayside proves it.
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Originally Posted by jituyadav View Post I do not support such an idea due to many reasons. First and foremost, I don’t want to see ugly wires and trolleys hanging in mid air, spoiling all the mesmerising views that nature has to offer.

Second, ropeways are a waste of assets, too expensive, both financially and environmentally.

Third, this will attract all those people for whom nature comes second and convenience first, resulting in crowd of pampered and careless tourists, which will be a disaster for nature lovers like me, because frankly, I despise such people.

And lastly, pilgrimages are a test of faith, and believe me, I have seen old people who are not able to walk half a kilometre in cities, completing the most difficult trek just because of faith. This is inspiring and shows the power of mind over matter.
I am also against a ropeway at any of the dhams or even otherwise in the mountains.

If a ropeway is built at Kedarnath (which I hope never happens), then Kedarnath would be just like any crowded (and often dirty) temple in any city in the plains. It works as simply as this: Ropeways bring hoards of tourists which brings service providers (hawkers, hotels) and then follows filth, plastic bags and it just goes on and on. A case in point is our hillstations, take Mussoorie for example. Today, Mussoorie resembles Lajpat Nagar or Amar Colony in Delhi and is not like it used to be 25 years ago when it was a quiet and peaceful hill station.

Anybody in their right minds would not want the same to happen to a place like Kedarnath, which potentially attracts visitors from all corners of India.

Please leave the mountains alone as the only real nature left in our country. We and our future generations deserve and need nature in its purest form.
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Originally Posted by jituyadav View Post I do not support such an idea due to many reasons. First and foremost, I don’t want to see ugly wires and trolleys hanging in mid air, spoiling all the mesmerising views that nature has to offer.

Second, ropeways are a waste of assets, too expensive, both financially and environmentally.

Third, this will attract all those people for whom nature comes second and convenience first, resulting in crowd of pampered and careless tourists, which will be a disaster for nature lovers like me, because frankly, I despise such people.

And lastly, pilgrimages are a test of faith, and believe me, I have seen old people who are not able to walk half a kilometre in cities, completing the most difficult trek just because of faith. This is inspiring and shows the power of mind over matter.
I couldn't agree more with what has been said by jituyadav on this topic. I am completely against the idea of a ropeway at Kedarnath.
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Yesterday i got a vision

Yesterday i got a vision that the route to kedarnath and the mountains and mandakini rivers is taking the form of lord shiva

if you think well, treking to kedarnath is like coming near lord shiva and the rivers mandakini flowing down from his head.

lord shiva says that he tests the devotion of his devotees, and the trek to kedarnath is a tough one. so it's great when you complete the trek on your own
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Originally Posted by sohamj View Post Yesterday i got a vision that the route to kedarnath and the mountains and mandakini rivers is taking the form of lord shiva

if you think well, treking to kedarnath is like coming near lord shiva and the rivers mandakini flowing down from his head.

lord shiva says that he tests the devotion of his devotees, and the trek to kedarnath is a tough one. so it's great when you complete the trek on your own
Hi Sohamj
It means that Lord shiva is not pleased with DEVOTEES GOING TO KEDARNATH BY HELICOPTER BECAUSE LORD SHIVA TESTS THE DEVOTION OF HIS DEVOTEES ????

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already all the char dham places are destroyed,and the extent of damage can be well explained by travelers who have been visiting those places for more than decades. i myself have been to Uttarakhand for the last 16 yrs and have seen how the place have been shattered. i still remember i used to find snow and glaciers before Badrinath and other places in june some 10 yrs back, and now you see the difference. now even in feb end its difficult to trace any. i have seen snow at Dharali/Harshil in April... its all for the reason that more & more people are able to go to all these places without any difficulty..
let the place live in peace, no more construction of any kind should be allowed... let people exert some labor if they want to visit all these sacred places...
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Hi Tilak
I agree with you and we have to save the Great Himalayas and and our Mother Nature, but can you stop people going to these places, can you stop all those buses, cars, jeeps, helicopters going to these places, they are polluting with CO and CO2 gas emitting from their engines. Further do you agree with me that main problem is THE POPULATION EXPLOSION IN INDIA, we have to control this.
Previously i have seen your excellent photographs taken in snow and most probably of Tungnath area.
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The main nuisance is the pony train. Perhaps, they can form a co-operative of pony owners, kandi carriers, and pay them from the charges of the ropeway facility (does not matter if it is costly). Others can go on foot.
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Hi AupmanYav
Yes, i agree with you.

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