Increasing tourist nuisance at Deoria Tal

I went to Deoria Tal in mid May.
To cut a long story short, i found too many camps there.
And few belonged to noisy picnic-merry-makers, young boys high on spirits (pun-intended).
I went with my family, with two kids. At 11 o'clock, these gentlemen finished their dinners and came to their camps. After that, a full 4 hours of loud conversation, each sentence decorated with the highest order of expletives, ensued. Obviously, the kids woke up, and got a rare chance of learning few choicest abuses.
When i came down next morning and discussed this with our guides family (the usual suspects), they looked like worried about this trend, but helpless. They told me so many alcohol bottles are being thrown there and that they were sorry that they pitched the boys tents so near to our's.
I think Deoria Tal has become a picnic spot, where young guys go and drink without bothering about who else might be camping there. Are these nature lovers? I doubt.
Let's condemn this kind of intolerant behavior. Otherwise, let's warn people to not go there with the families, it might just turn out to be a huge let-down.
Or, am i the only one to think so?
cheers,
nandadevieast
For the record, i am not a stranger to either alcohol or the abuses.

agree i found more garbage than last year, even on the lake too ........ God bless the place

the richer ordinary indians become, the worse it is for the countryside.

Unfortunately, this is a profile of typical Indian tourist (those who are in majority) these days. Few years back, I went in to an eco-tourism-based camp (one of the most beautiful I have seen) in a remote place in Uttrarakhand. The scene was same as described above.

Every place faces this nuisance, Deoria Tal just got a bit behind time. To us, personal space means until wherever our noise can reach, the maximum area that can be made a garbage dump, the whole width and length of the road etc etc etc.

Not at all as you found!!!

Those who consider alcohol as a necessary part of their tour (ticket, camera, medicine, bottle etc. etc. are the lists!!!) are culprits of such nuisance, I must say. Use and abuse are all the same to them.... Not in Deoria, but in sea-side, jungle camp, hilly serenity .... everywhere, they used to open it and above all never thought of others!!! The number is increasing day by day!!

@ Duronto Jajabar

100% agree

hello friends i went to deoriatal on april 1st 2012 with my wife.i think we are lucky as we both are alone there for three days complete silence and wild.hope we went on right time.but when i was in chopta i had seen some bikers with loud sound making bikes,that time i thought this guys should be kept away from nature.

I always carry a bottle or two of Old Monk to the mountains. Nothing better, after the sun sets. Sit peacefully smelling the trees- especially after a wet day- looking out with a glass in my hand and a blank mind in my head.

It is not the alcohol, it is the azules drinking it that is the problem. Besides the Indian tourist ethos that too often says that one is not having fun unless one is making a godawful racket and being a general nuisance, of course. One doesn't usually have this problem with foreigners, even stoned ones.

Local buggers will be running around trees singing songs next, mark my words.

Well, I despise such nuisance creating people as well but I take a bottle of my favt Whisky wherever I go for a trek. Just blaming it on alcohol is kinda stupid.

It's just the attitude of Indians that is wrong. And I think every country passes through this mentality of its people for a few decades while developing. It's society's way of maturing it's mindset.

If you actually want to enjoy the peace, go to Himalaya in winter. It's harsh but it's good. Himalaya addicts are born a little late for the thing they like, so I found this work-around for enjoying the addiction peacefully.

Deorial Tal in Jan-Feb, when not a single living soul is around, is absolutely fabulous.

Its definitely not alcohol. Its Youth+Group+Alcohol. Groups can be intolerant. They can sometimes be mad. And they can feel the overwhelming power of being more than one.
Its not about boys who pass by you shouting...your kids see that quite often. Its about camping in the lap of nature and finding few jokers hurling abuses at each other and shouting at 2 am at night because they are drunk??. Then you regret why you had to come here, and why you can not do anything about it.
I agree that going there in off season will help. But then, that's like playing on the back foot. Also, in case of families, May June is the only off season in most parts of India.
I think the guides in those areas should instruct people to behave in certain ways, instead of chasing money at every cost. Of course, the forest department which puts out a notice every kilometer about the taxes to be collected, can also do something about this, perhaps.

Well I think it is not really Alcohol alone but a feeling that if I have paid money I own the place. Yes amongst certain set of youngsters it a deadly cocktail of Alcohol + Testesterone.

I can think of two other examples from india, that may help you to combat this problem.

Check out " The ugly indian" on facebook - it's a direct action group in bangalore that seeks solutions, such as cleaning an area, then providing bins, to help reduce future issues.

Another is www.themountaincleaners.org (also on facebook)

I completely appreciate how much it must make you angry. It's an awful thing to see a beautiful place made ugly by littering/drunkeness. but we must do what we can ourselves to change things, if we wait for others, then everything is lost

Here are the essence .... I also experienced, capt_mahajan

But did you meet guys... after reaching Deoria tal, said "ops, this's the time to open it! Hulla!!!". One of them said, 'hay look, it's so beautiful...' Reply: "Nope, let me take two first (pahale do peg ho jaye, tab naa?)"... These are the guys I mentioned.

"Those who consider alcohol as a necessary part of their tour .. are culprits of such nuisance"


Stupidity of those preferring alcohol than everything!!!


So alcohol is here....

.... and here .....

.... and here too.

So can't we start thinking what to do ourselves, instead blaming (alcohol + what may be)?

A complaint to proper authority after facing such stupids may be lodged, even after completion of tour. Those people may not be traced out or punished, but after receiving repeated complaints, authority may think for future travelers there.

Does it sound silly!!!

Well yes! What authority?