Have you seen Jonathan Spollen? Missing in Rishikesh since February 3rd, 2012

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#1966 Oct 21st, 2013, 04:48
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I posted when my husband was going to India last winter. He. is going again February and March and again will keep a lookout and ears open, just in case. Our thoughts are always with him and his family, hoping for reunion or atleast resolution. <3
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I found this interesting article today and thought I'd pass it along:

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We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time. ~
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"begging foreigners the blight of the indian travel industry" "more laws for drug takers" 'exterminate the vermin" what planet are you on?
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Originally Posted by 6345789 View Post "begging foreigners the blight of the indian travel industry" "more laws for drug takers" 'exterminate the vermin" what planet are you on?
Obviously not the same planet as you are residing on? 'Normal' humans capture the 'full' quote and are thus upfront and accountable for what they reproduce. What exactly are you condoning by your post/quote?

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Originally Posted by PeakXV View Post No resemblance to Jon and I don't believe that was his game at all.

Those freeloading bums are the blight of the India travel industry. I can imagine the tongue licking an Indian would give another Indian citizen if they ever found them begging on the streets of North America .... but I don't think that would ever happen because they have too much pride/respect for that crap.

On the other hand, that's the shenanigans most of us try to avoid an escape from when we travel to India. Sad to see it so prominent in of the holiest cities of the world. Time to start some new traditions, impose some new laws, eliminate the loopholes in the recreational drug law/enforcement, and exterminate the vermin and associated charades.


No wonder Bhutan imposed their current travel policy as such. It was because of the foresight and potential of this very scenario/debacle with western loafers who don't know when to go home.
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itchycoo was probably taken aback by your 'agent orange' idea for cleaning up the social ills of India as successfully as North America has, that is if there is any yardstick to go by.. can it ever be done with 14M new ones every year?

Besides that debate is irrelevant to Jonathon's story, not only because the trail goes dead at Phul Chatti up river from Rishikesh, but also because after this time has elapsed we know that a white foreign male, especially a tall one, cannot possibly remain incognito for so long in India... and given the Himalayan weather and tragedies the past year virtually all 'sadhu's' you might say, have been forced down. Would it not take a hard core renunciate and/or a highly resourceful individual to remain so silent and obviously in charge of their faculties... which rules out any of the more speculative and edgy scenes that a person may explore, as all of them are temporary enchantments and the thing evaporates for overwhelmingly everyone. Jonathon's physical presence has mysteriously yet quietly ceased to be, on the banks of Ganga. There's some little comfort in that perhaps.
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Originally Posted by Paleface View Post itchycoo was probably taken aback by your 'agent orange' idea for cleaning up the social ills of India as successfully as North America has, that is if there is any yardstick to go by.. can it ever be done with 14M new ones every year?
His profile preference explains his (ermm) confusion. . The 14m who - Indians? The Indians are fine, it's the select few foreigners who come and smoke and stay and disappear that give the bad reputation and set benchmarks that authorities draw from.


I only mentioned it because there seems to be a stereotyping/stigmatism thing happening with police who are quick to blame disappearances on drugs and/or those needing to extend their vacation illegally in search of finding themselves or a teacher or the like. These assumptions and associated motivational delays due to biases undoubtedly waste precious time in the immediate days following a disappearance such as Jonathan's case. Not at all irrelevant & not necessary with a little bit of crackdown one would think.
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And the inaccurate assumption there is that the Police don't know their beat and what goes on in it, whereas in fact they do like the back of their hands - as is borne out by the trail going cold.

If so motivated, which in Johnathon's story they were (according to David), the Indian Police will find anyone. Moreover experience in Rishikesh dictates that although the hills may be a large geographical area there is ultimately no-where to hide so completely, everyone gets known.. still, it is a feasible long shot.
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Originally Posted by Paleface View Post And the inaccurate assumption there is that the Police don't know their beat and what goes on in it, whereas in fact they do like the back of their hands - as is borne out by the trail going cold.
Trails can go cold for a number of reasons. I'm a big believer in The First 48. I'm not sure if that's in the Indian Police's modus operandi/dna. Based on what was quoted in the papers - I'm thinking not. I do believe the brief yet decent media coverage of the disappearance prodded/motivated the authorities in the right direction..... for awhile at least.
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Might do you some good "to rest your eyes in shades of green" Peak???

.......but probably not! KK
SOS: Missing Person...

Please look at this thread: http://www.indiamike.com/india/uttar...012-a-t159252/

He could be anywhere now: You might have met him, be able to help, or give information.
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Originally Posted by kullukid View Post Might do you some good "to rest your eyes in shades of green" Peak???

.......but probably not! KK
I do just that every day and in being surrounded by nature in a very rural region. However, I don't think one necessarily needs to literally inhale any greenery in order to be influenced by it in a positive and constructive way.

Having said that, I'm not totally against the use of recreational drugs but I do believe the reputation of that 'scene', particularly in India by a certain demographic of budgeting foreigners, may well contribute significantly to the delay(s) of police investigations/motivations and as a result those crucial 'first 48 hours' often becomes more like the 'first 48 days'. Too doggone late.
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I'll be in Tiruvannamalai on the 30th. I'll keep my eyes open for him.
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David did you get Jonathan?
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Sadly, they have not got him so far!

But let's keep praying for him!!
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Yes Hope for the best
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