Haridwar-Tungnath-Deoriatal-Badri Narayan in October

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#1 May 19th, 2017, 17:48
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Hi IMers,

I am planning for a trip to Tungnath-Deoriatal-Badrinath early October this year. I will have my parents and relatives (total 8, mostly elderly) with me, and they will follow the Haridwar-Rishikesh-Badrinath route (and not trek). In total I will have roughly 10 days (which includes my travel to and from Kolkata).

Here's what I have planned so far.
Night 1: Upasana/Kumbh Exp.
Night 2: Haridwar
Night 3: Chopta (for trekkers), [Haridwar for the rest]
Night 4: Tungnath, [Rest proceed to Rishikesh]
Night 5: Buffer (Either Tungnath or Chopta) [Rest to Rudraprayag]
Night 6: Deoriata [Rest to Badri]
Night 7: Badri
Night 8: Badri
Night 9: Train
Night 10: Train (reach Howrah in the morning)

Now, I need your help in a couple of things:
1. Is the day 9 journey too much (particularly for the elders)? This day, we are planning to come down to Haridwar from Badri and catch the train at night

2. I have heard that the treks are relatively easy. However, me and my wife will be trekking for the first time. Is it safe and is it possible to do it without putting a lot of stress on our physical abilities?

3. Is the Day 6 plan reasonable? On that day, we are planning to come down from Tunganath in the morning, reach Sari, and hike to Deoriatal.

4. Is early October a good time to visit. My priority is of course to view the peaks from Chandrashila, Deoriatal, and even Badrinath. Last year, we went to Kumaon during this time, but we were unlucky and could not see the peaks in our 12 days trip! So, this time we are a bit confused and desperate too!

Any suggestion to make the itinerary more compact is welcome. Personally, I would prefer to travel more on a day, and use the extra day to stay in place and explore it.

thanks a lot in advance!
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2. I have heard that the treks are relatively easy. However, me and my wife will be trekking for the first time. Is it safe and is it possible to do it without putting a lot of stress on our physical abilities?
Yes, these are relatively easy treks & can be done without much difficulty. If you start for Chandrashila from Tungnath before Sunrise , you may hire a guide.


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3. Is the Day 6 plan reasonable? On that day, we are planning to come down from Tunganath in the morning, reach Sari, and hike to Deoriatal.
If possible come down to Chopta after doing Chandrashila on day 5 . Otherwise things could be hectic. Deoria Taal is a short trek of 2.5 Kms but it's a pretty steep route.


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4. Is early October a good time to visit. My priority is of course to view the peaks from Chandrashila, Deoriatal, and even Badrinath. Last year, we went to Kumaon during this time, but we were unlucky and could not see the peaks in our 12 days trip! So, this time we are a bit confused and desperate too!
Yes, October is a nice time. Last year (Oct'16) we had nice views of mountains & peaks throughout our trip in these areas.
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thank you so much for such a quick reply, and glad to know that you had a great view last year. I hope that luck would prefer us this time.

And thank you for your suggestion on Day 6. Actually, i wanted to keep a buffer day, in case we do not get a good view from Chandrashila. Otherwise, we will come down to Chopta and spend the night there. But, in case we don't, do you suggest us to add one more day there? Also, is it a reasonable ask to travel from Badri to Haridwar in one day? I reckon the distance is around 300KMs?
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Originally Posted by Joydtraveller View Post And thank you for your suggestion on Day 6. Actually, i wanted to keep a buffer day, in case we do not get a good view from Chandrashila. Otherwise, we will come down to Chopta and spend the night there. But, in case we don't, do you suggest us to add one more day there?
You can get nice views from Tungnath itself. Usually sky remains remains clear in October . Staying two nights in Tungnath could be really tough due to the extreme weather conditions. Also in Tungnath rooms are very basic. No electricity is there & getting a bucket of hot water could be challenging.

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Also, is it a reasonable ask to travel from Badri to Haridwar in one day? I reckon the distance is around 300KMs?
Sorry I've never been to Badrinath. You'll surely get suggestions & advice from more experienced IM-ers on this . But generally speaking, you may utilize your buffer day on this route
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Badrinath to Haridwar in one day is possible even in October. But you have to start very early, by 04:30 or 05:00 Hrs. Just after landing in Badrinath, book the return ticket from the bus stand without fail.
For own cab/taxi/vehicle start as early as possible. You shall reach haridwar by 4-5 PM, if the roads are OK.
You may check the itinerary once. Just see if this one is ok: Haridwar/ Rishikesh (Night-1)- Ukhimath (Night-2)- Deoriatal (Night-3), Tungnath (Night-4) and then Chandrashila in next day early morning- Badrinath (Night-5 & Night-6)- Haridwar (Night-7) and take night train to Kolkata. Badrinath to Haridwar in one go will be hectic, but doable for young persons considering no kids/aged persons in the group. No problem if you/your group hire a vehicle/jeep.
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Thanks for your response Rajat. From what I can understand so far, it will be more reasonable then to replace the buffer day with a halt in between Badrinath and Haridwar. I will have elderly people in the group. In that case, what could be a possible stay? Provided on their way up, they will stay at Rudraprayag, is there any other point of interest en route? Also, considering I have very limited number of days in hand, I was thinking if I could stay somewhere in between (Srinagar for example) and the next day, travel directly to Delhi to catch the Rajdhani exp. Is that a feasible option?

Also, is there a reason you are suggesting Deoriatal before Tungnath?

thanks!
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Based on your suggestions so far, here's the tentative itinerary so far:
Day 0: Board Rajdhani Exp.
Day 1: Reach Delhi. Take an overnight train to Haridwar (preferrably the Nandadevi AC SF)
Day 2: Reach Haridwar early morning, and travel to Chopta
Day 3: Trek to Tungnath
Day 4: Trek to Chandrashila to see sunrise and come down to Chopta. Stay at Chopta
Day 5: Reach Sari and trek to Deoriatal
Day 6: Come down to Sari, and travel to Badrinath
Day 7: Stay at Badrinath
Day 8: Stay at Rudraprayag/ Srinagar
Day 9: Travel to Haridwar and catch the Upasana Exp.
Day 10: Train
Day 11: Reach Howrah

What do you think of this plan?
(although I would have loved to spend an additional day in Tungnath or Deoriatal )
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Day 6: Come down to Sari, and travel to Badrinath
2.5 km down hill trek + 24 km more drive if you choose Deoriatal after Tunganath.
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Day 0: Board Rajdhani Exp. [Better to take Direct train to Haridwar from Kolkata if you have aged persons in group.]
Day 1: Reach Delhi. Take an overnight train to Haridwar (preferrably the Nandadevi AC SF) [If you plan SDAH or HWH to NDLS Rajdhani and then Nandadevi AC train, book at the earliest. Getting Nandadevi tickets is not easy.]
Day 2: Reach Haridwar early morning, and travel to Chopta [1. Again, this option becomes hectic if you have aged persons in the group. 2. First point shall be Deoriatal via Sari Gaon instead of Chopta. ]
Day 3: Trek to Tungnath [Check whether aged people can do the hike. It's at high altitude.]
Day 4: Trek to Chandrashila to see sunrise and come down to Chopta. Stay at Chopta [Probably aged people have to rest at Tungnath if they are not superfit.]
Day 5: Reach Sari and trek to Deoriatal [Deoriatal first and then Chopta/Tungnath/Chandrashila.]
Day 6: Come down to Sari, and travel to Badrinath
Day 7: Stay at Badrinath
Day 8: Stay at Rudraprayag/ Srinagar
Day 9: Travel to Haridwar and catch the Upasana Exp.
Day 10: Train
Day 11: Reach Howrah

(although I would have loved to spend an additional day in Tungnath or Deoriatal ) [It's very cold, so staying one more night with aged/children will be difficult. In Deoriatal you have to stay inside the tent. Tungnath does not have good staying options. All are basic facilities there. And nights are longer in October.]
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hi Seaface and rajatchakraborty,

thanks for your advices. The trekking will be done by me and my wife (both around 30). The aged members will have a parallel itinerary which will include a longer stay in Haridwar, then proceed to Rudraprayag, and from there to Badrinath. In Badrinath, the two groups will meet again and we will come down together

The only concern at this stage is the view of the peaks. Although people are assuring me saying October is a great time, i am still a little doubtful. Hence the extra day.
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My Suggestion:

Day-0: Train from Howrah at 13:00 hours (Direct train to Haridwar)
Day-1: Reach Haridwar by afternoon, Stay at Haridwar or reach Rishikesh by late afternoon (5 PM-6 PM) and Stay at Rishikesh. [Advantage of Rishikesh over Haridwar is if you go by public vehicle like Jeep- these are available early morning from Natraj Chawk (next to GMVN Bharat bhoomi hotel).]
Day-2: Haridwar / Rishikesh to Ukhimath and Night stay at Ukhimath,
Day-3: Ukhimath to Sari Gaon and then Sari Gaon to Deoriatal by trek. Night stay at Deoriatal . (permanent tent of Lakhpat singh negi or smaller tent rented from Sari gaon or from the local dhaba at Deoriatal)
Day-4: Deoriatal to Sari Gaon and then proceed to Chopta by Car/Jeep. Trek to Tungnath from Chopta and Night stay at Tungnath. [Tungnath accomodations are very basic.]
Day-5: Early morning (I started by 4 AM with headlamp and torch) trek to Chandrashila, enjoy the sunrise. (There is a reason to start so early. Just after sunrise the view of distant mountains becomes hazy due to mist.). After that walk down to Chopta. And proceed to Mandal-Gopeshwar-Chamoli-Joshimath and then to Badrinath. You can reach Badrinath by 7-7:30 PM. You should reach Joshimath by 3 PM otherwise shared jeep becomes unavailable, and the vehicles are not allowed to move because night driving in that route is restricted for general public vehicles (I VISITED IN 2012, RECENT VISITORS MAY PLEASE UPDATE THE PRESENT CONDITIONS.)
Night Stay at Badrinath. [Pre-booking is must for family/ large groups, avoid the Bhagabat Path days.]
Day-6: Night Stay at Badrinath.
Day-7: Start early from Badrinath and night stay at Rudra Prayag.
Day-8: Rudraprayag to Rishikesh/ Haridwar. Night stay at Rishikesh/ Haridwar.
Day-9: Enjoy Rishikesh/ Haridwar. Take night train to Howrah.
Day-10: In train.
Day-11: Very early morning reach Howrah.
Practically, this itinerary takes your 10.5 days (or 11 days). On early arrival at Howrah, you can comfortably join office/ resume your business.
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hmm...sounds good...and you are spot on about the leaves! the number of days is what i am counting now...

and once the itinerary is set...i will ask for your help in finding accommodation, transport, and other details. Trust me, this is going to be a long thread.

But thanks so much for the help so far.
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You can knock off on day-8 if you have no plan for river rafting. Enjoy the evening ganga aarti and take night train to howrah. Full day at Haridwar/ Rishikesh is not required in that case.
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No plan for river rafting. So, i guess half day will do...and that will help me save a day.
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After some deliberations and considerations, we have finally decided to go as couple (my parents have opted for Puri instead ), and we have tweaked the plan accordingly. So, here is the tentative itinerary:
Sat: Upasana Express
Sun: Haridwar
Mon: Chopta
Tue: Tungnath trek
Wed: Chandrashila trek, come down to Chopta, and proceed to Ukhimath
Thur: Deoriatal trek
Fri: Buffer day
Sat: Travel to Haridwar and catch the Upasana exp.
Sun: Train
Mon: Reach howrah early morning.

Now, for the buffer day, we were considering Syasaur. Anyone has any idea if the GMVN is there? Otherwise, can you suggest a nice quite place to spend a day in?

Regarding the trekking I contacted Heera Singh Negi and he charged Rs 800/- per day per head (includes tent, food, and guide/porter cost). Any feedback on him? Or any other reliable person to contact?

Does the tent at Deoriatal comprises beds and quilts? or do we need to carry sleeping bags and all?
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