Getting to Lohajung from Kanpur/Lucknow/Delhi

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Hi all,

I'm planning a short trek to Bedini Bugiyal (part of the Roopkund route) during the long weekend at the start of April. The first hurdle seems to be getting to Lohajung within the time constraints.

We'll be taking the Wednesday off from our college in Kanpur, so we can leave after Tuesday afternoon. There seem to be only two options of reaching Kathgodam by train: Ranikhet from Delhi and Bagh from Lucknow.

Ranikhet is problematic because it departs at 10:40 PM, giving us too little time to reach Delhi from Kanpur after classes get over around 5 PM. Bagh departs from Lucknow around midnight, so that's great. But, it reaches Kathgodam at 9:30. SO what I want to know is if we reach Kathgodam that late, will it still be possible to get a car to Lohajung the same day? We have to get back by Monday morning, so can't afford to waste a day, have to be in Lohajung ready to start the trek to Wan on Thursday.

If the train options are not possible, what else could we do? Any bus/car options available?

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I'm planning a short trek to Bedini Bugiyal (part of the Roopkund route) during the long weekend at the start of April. The first hurdle seems to be getting to Lohajung within the time constraints.

We'll be taking the Wednesday off from our college in Kanpur, so we can leave after Tuesday afternoon. There seem to be only two options of reaching Kathgodam by train: Ranikhet from Delhi and Bagh from Lucknow.

Ranikhet is problematic because it departs at 10:40 PM, giving us too little time to reach Delhi from Kanpur after classes get over around 5 PM. Bagh departs from Lucknow around midnight, so that's great. But, it reaches Kathgodam at 9:30. SO what I want to know is if we reach Kathgodam that late, will it still be possible to get a car to Lohajung the same day? We have to get back by Monday morning, so can't afford to waste a day, have to be in Lohajung ready to start the trek to Wan on Thursday.

If the train options are not possible, what else could we do? Any bus/car options available?

Thanks!

Palash
Hi Palash,

If you are planning to go only up to Bedni then according to me two days of trekking (from lohajung to bedni and back)are enough unless you plan to spend an extra day at Bedni and Ali.

Though the time of arrival for Bagh Express at Kathgodam is 9:30 am, it can not be relied as it tends to get late. If it is the case then you might find it difficult to get a cab from Kathgodam/Haldwani towards Lohajung because most of shared cabs leave early. If you are planning a hire a cab entirely for your team than you might get it any time; however, you will have to scout for it.
Shared cabs will take you up to Deval and from there you will have to take another cab (another two hours of journey)

One option for you is to take Delhi-Deval Bus (Uttarakhand State Transport), which goes right up to Lohajung. You can return to Kathgodam by the same bus on Sunday morning. It starts at 5 am from Lohajung.

In my view, take wednesday Ranikhet Express, and catch Delhi-Deval from Haldwani (if you want to avoid tedious bus journey from Delhi).

Hope it Helps.
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Palash,
If you can bunk Tuesday as well, then you have the option of the excellent 12209 Garib Rath Express, leaves Kanpur Central at 6.15 am (Tuesday only), reaches Haldwani at 14.40 same day. 3A only, seats always available. If you then hire your own car, you can make it to at least Deval by 8 pm, where there is a GMVN.

If you can't bunk, and come to Delhi -
you can take the ANVT KGM Express, leaves Wednesday morning from Anand Vihar at 6 am, reaches Haldwani at 11.33 am. You can then still get to Lohajang by evening.

You should also look for train connections at Bareily, Rampur, Moradabad - will save you from coming to Delhi. You might have to change trains in the middle of the night, but so what?

I mention Haldwani in each case because that is the hub for the up-country transport, buses and share-jeeps originate there. At Kathgodam you have to take whatever is coming along, and may not get all seats in one vehicle.
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Lohajung to Bedni is two days of trekking (Lohajung to Didna 5 hrs) and (Didna to Bedni 6 hrs)...attempting whole trek in 1 day will be very tiring

In case you are in a hurry you can descend to Wan from Bedni the same day you reach Bedni........however I would strongly suggest spending a night in Bedni to enjoy the meadows

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If you are planning to go only up to Bedni then according to me two days of trekking (from lohajung to bedni and back)are enough unless you plan to spend an extra day at Bedni and Ali.

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Hi,

Thanks for the really helpful replies. We can't bunk Tuesday, and would of course prefer to avoid long-distance bus journeys, so the ANVT KGM Express option seems best. After reaching Haldwani at 11:30, what options will we have for getting to Lohajung? If we have to hire a car, how much is that likely to cost now?

And yes, there will be first-time trekkers in our team, so Lohajung to Bedni in one day is not really viable. We'll have to stop at Didna. Incidentally, if we do not carry tents then will we get places to stay at Didna and Bedni? Thanks again!

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you may get to stay in village in Didna.........but for Bedni you have to carry all your supplies........

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Originally Posted by StonedMe View Post Hi,

Thanks for the really helpful replies. We can't bunk Tuesday, and would of course prefer to avoid long-distance bus journeys, so the ANVT KGM Express option seems best. After reaching Haldwani at 11:30, what options will we have for getting to Lohajung? If we have to hire a car, how much is that likely to cost now?

And yes, there will be first-time trekkers in our team, so Lohajung to Bedni in one day is not really viable. We'll have to stop at Didna. Incidentally, if we do not carry tents then will we get places to stay at Didna and Bedni? Thanks again!

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I think you didn't get solution for reaching Kanpur to Haldwani. You are saying that you will be late if you catch Bagh exp. You will also be too late by ANVT KGM exp. And you will have to waste a night in Delhi. Now in case of Ranikhet exp, you don't need to catch it from Delhi. Use Ghaziabad. It departs from GZB at 23.26, so you will have to catch 12003 Shatabdi from Kanpur at 16.50. I think you can manage to reach station before 16.50.
If it is not possible, you have only option of Bagh exp. It rarely runs late. You will be on time. But never forget to get off at Haldwani. All buses, jeeps runs from Haldwani. No need to go to Kathgodam.
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Originally Posted by NEERAJ JAT JI View Post I think you didn't get solution for reaching Kanpur to Haldwani. You are saying that you will be late if you catch Bagh exp. You will also be too late by ANVT KGM exp. And you will have to waste a night in Delhi. Now in case of Ranikhet exp, you don't need to catch it from Delhi. Use Ghaziabad. It departs from GZB at 23.26, so you will have to catch 12003 Shatabdi from Kanpur at 16.50. I think you can manage to reach station before 16.50.
If it is not possible, you have only option of Bagh exp. It rarely runs late. You will be on time. But never forget to get off at Haldwani. All buses, jeeps runs from Haldwani. No need to go to Kathgodam.
Well, Dilliwala seemed to imply that cars for Lohajung will still be available even if we reach late, so I assumed it would be okay. If that is true, then Bagh is also a good option. Can you please confirm that cars will be available for Lohajung when Bagh reaches Haldwani?

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Originally Posted by StonedMe View Post Hi,

And yes, there will be first-time trekkers in our team, so Lohajung to Bedni in one day is not really viable. We'll have to stop at Didna. Incidentally, if we do not carry tents then will we get places to stay at Didna and Bedni? Thanks again!

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Hi Palash,

I think, Neeraj has provided excellent option for reaching Kathgodam/Haldwani. I belong to Haldwani and based on my experience I mentioned that Bagh Express tends to get late.

Approach towards trekking varies from people to people. I personally try to avoid travelling hassles (changing multiple trains, less sleep during journey etc.), and be as fresh as possible when starting the trek. That's why I suggested to take it easy and use two days to reach Lohajung.

Based on my personal experience, Bedni can be done in a single day (even with first time trekkers, unless the age does not permit). I started from Lohajung at 7 am and reached Bedni (via Wan) at around 5 pm without over-exerting myself. If your budget permits, you can hire a jeep to go up to Wan and save your energy and time.I have not attempted Bedni/Roopkund from Didna as yet but according to locals, it is more tiresome as compared with Wan route.

Remember, even if you reach Haldwani at around 10 am, it would be a touch late to start for a tiresome journey towards Lohajung (and start a tiresome trek the very next morning). I would rather split my journey to Lohajung in to two days and enjoy some quality time at a place like Kausani or Gwaldom for a day.

Last but not the least, you will have to take your own tent for Bedni. Locals at Wan would be able to provide that on hire.

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You miss the beautiful Ali Bugyal if you take the Wan-Bedni route.......the journey from Ali to Bedi through the meadows is memorable

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Based on my personal experience, Bedni can be done in a single day (even with first time trekkers, unless the age does not permit). I started from Lohajung at 7 am and reached Bedni (via Wan) at around 5 pm without over-exerting myself. If your budget permits, you can hire a jeep to go up to Wan and save your energy and time.I have not attempted Bedni/Roopkund from Didna as yet but according to locals, it is more tiresome as compared with Wan route.
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Originally Posted by Khak View Post You miss the beautiful Ali Bugyal if you take the Wan-Bedni route.......the journey from Ali to Bedi through the meadows is memorable
That can be done while coming back, which would be relatively less tiresome.
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yes that's possible....
Wan - Bedni and then Bedni - Didna-Lohajung is possible in 2 days......

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Hi,

I personally prefer to minimize car travel time and maximize walking time in the mountains, going by car tends to be a singularly uncomfortable experience for me. I would rather exert a bit on the journey to Lohajung and then take my time on the trek.

Changing trains in Ghaziabad seems just a bit of hassle to me. Photofreak, how late is Bagh usually in your experience?

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Originally Posted by StonedMe View Post Well, Dilliwala seemed to imply that cars for Lohajung will still be available even if we reach late, so I assumed it would be okay. If that is true, then Bagh is also a good option. Can you please confirm that cars will be available for Lohajung when Bagh reaches Haldwani?
If you hire your own taxi, there is no issue with what time of day you arrive. In connection with which, if the ANVT KGM Express weren't an option for you, I wouldn't have mentioned it. If you arrive at Haldwani 11.30 am, there'll be PLENTY of taxis willing to take you to Deval at least. You'll have to pay around 3000 though. Same applies to Bagh Express, even if it's a few hours late.
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Originally Posted by StonedMe View Post Hi, I personally prefer to minimize car travel time and maximize walking time in the mountains, going by car tends to be a singularly uncomfortable experience for me. I would rather exert a bit on the journey to Lohajung and then take my time on the trek.
Hi Palash,

It is still not clear how you wish to reach Lohajung...is it by hiring an entire cab (from Haldwani) for you/your team or is it by a shared cab or/and bus.

If former is the case then as Dilliwala said, it does not matter when you reach Haldwani. You will manage to find a cab to take you to Lohajung.

If latter is the case then in my view, you will find it difficult to reach Lohajung on time if you arrive Haldwani later than 9 am.
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