Char Dham by walk?

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Dear Rajkumar / Yadav,

Please read below link. Does this route presently exists ??

https://www.telegraphindia.com/10707...y_8091091.asp#

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Originally Posted by vijay.ssa View Post Please read below link. Does this route presently exists ??
You are talking about Panpatia col, so yes, this is a doable, but this is not a trek route in normal sense. It is a typical high altitude expedition that requires you to be well prepared with all mountaineering equipment and would also need prior experience.

The trek starts from Badrinath and goes through places like Nilkanth khal, Panpatia glaier, madhmaheshwar, Ransi etc. So if you have done high mountain expedition before, you can attempt it, the total distance is about 80 Kms.
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vijay,

See if you can get hold of the Uttarakhand guide published by Nest & Wings.
(Shown here at top left - http://www.nestwings.in/ )

It lists the traditional Char Dham walking routes alongwith distances. There is also a map included which will show all the points with distances in between. Mind you, a lot of the traditional routes are now roads.

The other thing you can do is get to Yamunotri and join up with some sadhus . There are still a few that cover the routes on foot.
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Originally Posted by kranthi444india View Post Ohhh Can you give Guidance from your knowledge to plan my trip
@kranthi444india,

Where you able to complete the Yatra..?
Please let me know more details of about the route planned or your experience.

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#20 Jan 7th, 2017, 22:49
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There are two old books about Chardham Yatra from early 20th and late 19th century that sheds some light on the walking experience in those days.
1. Wanderings in the Himalaya by Swami Tapovan Maharaj
2. In the lap of the Himalayas: Holy wanderings by Swami Akhandananda
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Very difficult to find nowadays.
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Originally Posted by Dilliwala View Post Very difficult to find nowadays.
Friends,
There is an Ashram at Rishikesh with popular name "108 Baba kale Kamli wale ". This name was suggested by Grahwal Nigam official when I strongly requested that I'm willing to do by & not interested in PACKAGES...

It is situated in market area of Rishikesh.
I'll share the website also. They manage all Dharamshala along the traditional route. So before starting yatra one can visit their Ashram where they give complete route & directions of traditional route.
The GNL official also said many people do the Yatra by foot. It is challenging both interms of time & strain.
But it can be overcome by the spiritual thought which motivated us & blessings of almighty.

Even I enquired with few of my friends from Uttarakhand. Every one motivates that its not uncommon & very much feasible.

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Another gem on travels in Garhwal is by the polymath Rahul Sankrityayan, a great traveller of Himalayas in the last century.
It's published in Hindi in 1951 and titled Himlayaa Parichay Part-1 ( Garhwal ).

You will find all the details about the pilgrim routes to Chardham.temples. ( halts and distances )
It's more than a travel book. A treasure trove.

And the great thing is it's available for download here:
http://ebookspdf.in/himalaya-paricha...-ebook-format/

I wish they would soon digitize and upload his other books on Kumaon, Nepal etc.

Enjoy reading and travelling !
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Please help me for kumayun trip

I'm planning a trip in May with family of 6+1

Day 0- Reach lalkuan by train at 9.30

Day 1- Nainital

Day 2- Leave for Kausani

Day3- Kausani

Day 4 - Leave for Munsyari

Day 5 - Munsyari

Day 6- Munsyari

Day 7- Leave for lalkuan, my train at 16.30hrs

my days are fixed kindly suggest itinerary and cab operator for SUV from haldwani or nainital

I can skip nainital and add chakori
please help accommodation at this places
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If you prefer doing it alone, without prior hiking experience, then better to follow the motor roads, with minor shortcuts here and there. You don't need a map for this. If you want to trek, there are several routes depending on how technical you want it to be. But as already said, it'd require extensive equipment, and you'll need to cook your own food daily in addition to ample prior experience.

Most technical route (but doable by average hikers) with only 10-15 kms walk on motor road: Yamunotri - Bali Pass - HKD - Borasu Pass - Chitkul - Lamkhaga Pass - Gangotri - Audens Col - Mayali Pass - Kedarnath - Mandani Valley - Ransi - Madmaheshwar - Panpatia Col - Khirao - Badrinath

Doing this solo as a pilgrimage is next to impossible.

There are many variations possible - like instead of Borasu - Lamkhaga, can go for Dhumdharkandi from Ruinsara Tal, but you'll have to add a couple of days of road walk from Harsil to Gangotri along motor road. Badrinath is the crux - I'm not aware of any route to reach there directly outside of motor road or highly technical routes.

For a less technical walk (but still, not for an inexperienced hiker): Yamunotri - Bali pass - Ruinsara Tal - Dhumdharkandi Pass - Gangotri - Belak, Budha Kedar, Ghuttu - Kedarnath - Mandani Valley - Ransi - Madmaheshwar - Kachni Khal - Ghiavinayak pass - Bansinarayan - Urgam - Helang - Badrinath.

Again several variations possible here as well. Might not even be the most optimal route - I fitted what routes I was aware of.

You will not save much time by taking interior routes as walking speed on motor roads will be much higher than mountain trails, but it'll avoid sound of blaring horns and smoke and give you ample time alone in the deep mountains, which according to me, is as much a pilgrimage as visiting the dhams.
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Originally Posted by the_blue_bharal View Post Most technical route (but doable by average hikers) with only 10-15 kms walk on motor road: Yamunotri - Bali Pass - HKD - Borasu Pass - Chitkul - Lamkhaga Pass - Gangotri -
Wow! Jolly long way around, isn't it?

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There are many variations possible - like instead of Borasu - Lamkhaga, can go for Dhumdharkandi from Ruinsara Tal, but you'll have to add a couple of days of road walk from Harsil to Gangotri along motor road.
From Dhumdhar Kandi down the Siyan Gad would lead to 3-4 km downroad from Harshil only, near Jhala. From Lamkhaga down the Jalandhari Gad would lead to Harshil. So extra road distance is 3-4 km only.
Or did you mean finding a way direct from Lamkhaga over the mountain ranges to Lanka or thereabouts? I don't know the terrain, but I can imagine that to be quite technical too.
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Originally Posted by rajkumar View Post There are two old books about Chardham Yatra from early 20th and late 19th century that sheds some light on the walking experience in those days.
1. Wanderings in the Himalaya by Swami Tapovan Maharaj
2. In the lap of the Himalayas: Holy wanderings by Swami Akhandananda
I have both of those, I also have another good little book somewhere, that's simply called Char Dham, more of a guidebook but shows hand drawn maps of footpaths/trails, just searched high & low for it, but can't lay my hands on it right now.
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Originally Posted by Dilliwala View Post Wow! Jolly long way around, isn't it?

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From Dhumdhar Kandi down the Siyan Gad would lead to 3-4 km downroad from Harshil only, near Jhala. From Lamkhaga down the Jalandhari Gad would lead to Harshil. So extra road distance is 3-4 km only.
Or did you mean finding a way direct from Lamkhaga over the mountain ranges to Lanka or thearabouts? I don't know the terrain, but I can imagine that to be quite technical too.
Right. I don't know why I thought Lamkhaga Pass is between Chitkul and Nelang, and the valley opens up near Bhaironghati on the highway, so will avoid most of the motor road, which was my aim.
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Out of curiosity, I got to ask you all- Did anyone feel near to the god or found some peace while doing the Char Dham?
I started this thread a couple of years earlier, when I planned on this trip. Unfortunately, the trip did not happen. But the curiosity is still there.
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Originally Posted by streetcat View Post Out of curiosity, I got to ask you all- Did anyone feel near to the god or found some peace while doing the Char Dham?
I started this thread a couple of years earlier, when I planned on this trip. Unfortunately, the trip did not happen. But the curiosity is still there.
Peace and Serenity abound at all places above 10k ft
It's only disturbed by presence of humans.
In my opinion, lesser visited temples like the Panchkedar, Anasuya Devi, Kalishila have better vibes than the chardham.

Maybe chardham too are peaceful when there is less crowd but I think presence of concrete destroys positive vibes of any region, and 90% of Indian construction is concrete based. Stone and wooden building preserve good vibes even when there are a lot of humans around, and this style of construction remains only in non-touristy places and even there, it's fast vanishing.

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