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Old Jun 29th, 2007, 14:44   #16
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Thanks for prompt reply.

Now I can access the report. Thanks.
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Old Aug 22nd, 2007, 19:42   #17
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Its a nice colection from govt for promoting the trekking route in uttaranchal.

Good for collectiona and reference
http://chitrang.srivastava.googlepag...kingReport.pdf
I think that it is better, when referring to a document, to give the URI of the original document, rather than that of a privately downloaded copy. In that spirit, a better URL for the above report is http://gov.ua.nic.in/uttaranchaltourism/Master%20Plan%20For%20Trekking %20Routes/Final%20Master%20Plan/Trekking%20Report.pdf

The report, titled `Master plan for development of trekking routes in Uttaranchal,' was prepared for the Uttarakhand Government by a private company, and is perhaps not of great value. For instance, the section on the Kuari Pass has whole passages lifted, without attribution, from the Lonely Planet guide to `Trekking in the Indian Himalaya.' I would not be surprised if the report is mostly based on information from other sources, rather than on original field work. In any case, there are some other similar reports, e.g., on Dayara Bugiyal, at http://gov.ua.nic.in/uttaranchaltour...er%20Plans.htm
However, most of the links there lead to Microsoft Word files leaving those of us who use Unix in the lurch --- unless one installs OpenOffice or some other kludge.

There is a similar report, titled `Master plan for eco-tourism in Valley of Flowers-Hemkunt belt,' and prepared for the Government of India by another private company, at http://www.tourism.nic.in/survey/val...%20Flowers.pdf

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Old Aug 23rd, 2007, 00:33   #19
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Suggestion to the moderators

I think this thread --- and Jeroen's definitive posting on the Milam glacier teahouse trek --- would be more relevant and useful on the `Trekking and Mountaineering in India' forum, and suggest that both the threads be moved there.

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Old Aug 25th, 2007, 17:44   #20
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yeah, this report is not exactly of great value....coz it has many wrong references (ex: showing some of the garhwal treks in kumaon, etc). it seems as if someone has done a copy paste job and also taken the layout from a Kotler's marketing book ... which is not even good enough for a first semester student's marketing project.
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Old Aug 25th, 2007, 18:16   #21
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I think this thread --- and Jeroen's definitive posting on the Milam glacier teahouse trek --- would be more relevant and useful on the `Trekking and Mountaineering in India' forum, and suggest that both the threads be moved there.
It is best to contact the moderators directly with suggestions.

Both threads can be found in both forums by means of redirects. Experience teaches that people will complain whether threads are moved one way or the other, so apparently it's hard to please everyone Some threads will end up under Trekking or whatever their subject may be and some under the appropriate states, with redirects if one of the mods notices and/or can be bothered, and usually with respect to the poster's original choice, unless completely misplaced to begin with.
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Old Aug 25th, 2007, 21:47   #22
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It is best to contact the moderators directly with suggestions.
Sure, will do that next time around.

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Yes, I understand the difficulty. It seems a pity that there doesn't seem to be a forum analogue of symbolic links between files.

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Old Aug 25th, 2007, 22:28   #23
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Sure, will do that next time around.
Yes, no problem btw, it's just we may overlook it. It also detracts from ongoing threads, as in this case (sorry peeps).

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I understand the difficulty. It seems a pity that there doesn't seem to be a forum analogue of symbolic links between files.
Assuming I think what you mean, that's an idea yes. Passing it on to the powers that be

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Yes, I understand the difficulty. It seems a pity that there doesn't seem to be a forum analogue of symbolic links between files.
How exactly do you picture this? It's under review so your comments would be welcome.

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Old Aug 27th, 2007, 14:57   #24
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How exactly do you picture this? It's
under review so your comments would be welcome.
A typical URL for an IM thread (with a single page, for simplicity) looks like
Code:
http://www.indiamike.com/india/kerala-f39/tours-in-kerala-t42947/
Assuming there was no major tweaking and URL rewriting at the HTTP server, it looks like there is a directory (named `kerala-f39' in this case) on the server for each forum, a subdirectory therein (named `tours-in-kerala-t42947' in this case) for each thread on that forum, and a file `index.html' in that subdirectory. Assuming that this view is correct, I was thinking of something on the following lines.

Each line below is a command in an interactive shell. The strings "[2]%", etc., are the shell prompts.

Code:
[1]% mkdir -p forum-1/thread-1.{1,2,3} forum-2/thread-2.{1,2}

[2]% touch forum-1/thread-1.{1,2,3}/index.html

[3]% touch forum-2/thread-2.{1,2}/index.html

[4]% ls -R forum-*
  forum-1: thread-1.1/ thread-1.2/ thread-1.3/
    forum-1/thread-1.1: index.html
    forum-1/thread-1.2: index.html 
    forum-1/thread-1.3: index.html
  forum-2: thread-2.1/ thread-2.2/
    forum-2/thread-2.1: index.html
    forum-2/thread-2.2: index.html

[5]% echo "foo" >> forum-1/thread-1.2/index.html

[6]% cd forum-2 && ln -s ../forum-1/thread-1.2 && cd ..

[7]% echo "bar" >> forum-1/thread-1.2/index.html

[8]% echo "baz" >> forum-2/thread-1.2/index.html

[9]% cat forum-1/thread-1.2/index.html
foo
bar
baz

[10]% cat forum-2/thread-1.2/index.html
foo
bar
baz

[11]% diff -r forum-1/thread-1.2 forum-2/thread-1.2 && echo "SAME"
SAME
Commands 1, 2, and 3 create directories corresponding to two forums, the first with three threads, the second containing two threads, and populate the thread subdirectories with `index.html' files. Command 4 shows the tree structure (I have reformatted the actual shell output to save space).

Command 5 adds some text to `thread-1.2/index.html', and is intended to simulate a posting to that thread.

Command 6 creates a symbolic link from `forum-2' pointing to `thread-1.2' in `forum-1'. At this point, `thread-1.2' is visible in both the forums.

Command 7 simulates a posting to `thread-1.2' in `forum-1', while command 8 does a posting to the same thread in `forum-2'.

Commands 9, 10, and 11 indicate that `thread-1.2' is the same in both the forums. One can post to it from either forum, and its contents are the same irrespective of which of the two forums it is viewed from.

Needless to say, this picture may be a gross simplification, and may be quite incorrect. In any case, it describes what I was thinking. I am sure that my description could be improved; please let me know if something looks dubious. Mooching about a few days ago, I stumbled upon the thread `Allow mods to put threads in multiple forums' on the discussion board at http://www.space.com/ You may be interested in that too.

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Old Dec 14th, 2007, 04:12   #25
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Phew, I'm relieved that I'm not the only one who thinks that report is a farce - just another consultant out to make an expensive buck.

There are some real howlers in there, and I wud never have known of the plagiarism if u hadn't pointed it out, Raghu!

PS: Unix, huh? Is that why u can't use the website's own smileys?
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Old Dec 14th, 2007, 17:35   #26
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There are some real howlers in there
All part of corporate quick work, I suppose. The consultants don't seem to have either the resources or the interest to organize proper field work and produce a report that is worthwhile.

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Unix, indeed. However, the reason I avoid those cute images is just that I am not used to smilies as such. "Emoticonally challenged" seems a common enough name for the condition!

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Unix, indeed. However, the reason I avoid those cute images is just that I am not used to smilies as such. "Emoticonally challenged" seems a common enough name for the condition!

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Oh, what I meant was whether the forum-supplied ones (to the right of the write-box) don't show in Unix (I'm Unixally-challenged ), cos I've seen u use " :-) ". And can u see the forum-supplied ones others use in their posts?
Doesn't really matter, just curious.
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that's really neat . Thanks
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Old Dec 14th, 2007, 22:05   #29
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Oh, what I meant was whether the forum-supplied ones (to the right of the write-box) don't show in Unix (I'm Unixally-challenged ), cos I've seen u use " :-) ". And can u see the forum-supplied ones others use in their posts?
Good one that, Dilliwala, although I can't really imagine you challenged! My apologies for not getting to the point earlier. To clarify, the forum-supplied smilies are certainly visible next to the reply area in my browser window, and I can indeed use them, . Similarly, the smilies in others' postings are also visible in my browser window.

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Where is the question of commenting on the quality of the report?
I think the most important thing is that you get an Idea where else you can go. Small errors can be clarified and ?????????
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