When nature calls/How to crap in Indian Himalayas?

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#1 Aug 6th, 2011, 08:51
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Okay. So you can laugh indeed before I can start. And anyway, its scary thought waking up in midnight to attend nature's call and then digging a hole and while you do it, don't-know-what animal bites off your a**.

Keeping lame humor aside, I have few queries:

What are the best practices for(attending nature's call indeed) in Indian Himalayas while on overnight hike/trek? I have seen lot of common tips(dig 6 inch hole etc etc) on different sites. Do they apply here as well? or we Indians have some other "jugaad" for it ? How you can dig holes easily? etc.


Of course, one would like to use well made toilets when they are available but what when they are not?

I need to survey these guys who do it on railway tracks. Wonder how they wash with what looks like few drops of water.

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Carry a lotha and some water (need not be bottled) and look for a bush. It would be cool to carry a small plastic hand spade but have yet to see this..
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explosionsinthesky,
The common tips apply in general. A small stick might help for digging. Might be useful to locate a site near the tent for nocturnal dumps.

How did the railway track survey go?
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Originally Posted by edwardseco View Post Carry a lotha and some water (need not be bottled) and look for a bush. It would be cool to carry a small plastic hand spade but have yet to see this..
Maybe this?
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/3-in-1-...-compass-46445

Ok. Water it is.
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Originally Posted by mars13 View Post explosionsinthesky,
The common tips apply in general. A small stick might help for digging. Might be useful to locate a site near the tent for nocturnal dumps.

How did the railway track survey go?
Thanks for the suggestion.

Survey... well, I am turned off by thinking of that smell on railway tracks
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Avoid places by the streams/water sources (leeches might find you unmentionables very delightful) if you can't find any bushes then look for a rock !
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Originally Posted by livinhimalayas View Post Avoid places by the streams/water sources (leeches might find you unmentionables very delightful) if you can't find any bushes then look for a rock !
That was indeed a great suggestion. Thanks.

Going Chandrataal next month. so need to find rocks around and away from lake
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Nice topic... here are some tips:

1. Get a head lamp. For night/early morning visits it makes life a lot easier if you don't have to hold a torch all the time, you know what I mean, it's the age of hands free.
2. Don't worry about wild animals. If you worry too much, it will take longer to do your job. Just forget everything, and get it over with. Singing a song often helps one to relax, also keeps animals and other humans away.
3. Below snowline, find trees or boulders to crouch behind. Dig a hole if you can, not always easy even with a stick. Some sports stores like Wildcraft sell folding shovels, but it might be an overkill. Can't dig a hole, then find a hole. Can't do either, cover the ... ermm... remains with dead foliage, pine needles, etc.
4. Above snowline, digging can be literally a pain in you know where, especially if you are in a hurry. Snow can get pretty hard overnight. If you are in a group, it's best to dig a latrine trench when you make camp, and cover it when you leave.
5. Whatever you do, don't be a lazy bum and to save effort hang your posteriors over ledges or crevasses. It's downright dangerous. IF you have no choice but to utilize a steep slope in the landscape, make sure to anchor yourself well.
6. Avoid streams, avoid lakes, avoid areas near waterfalls/springs. People downstream use that water for drinking for god's sake.
7. Avoid paths, yes elementary isn't it? You'd be surprised how many people avoid effort of walking off the path into the jungle and just relieve themselves right on the well trodden track.
8. Carry a toilet paper roll. Water is unpractical in high-altitude.
9. Wash you hands... with soap... please!
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Originally Posted by vko View Post Nice topic... here are some tips:

1. Get a head lamp. For night/early morning visits it makes life a lot easier if you don't have to hold a torch all the time, you know what I mean, it's the age of hands free.
2. Don't worry about wild animals. If you worry too much, it will take longer to do your job. Just forget everything, and get it over with. Singing a song often helps one to relax, also keeps animals and other humans away.
3. Below snowline, find trees or boulders to crouch behind. Dig a hole if you can, not always easy even with a stick. Some sports stores like Wildcraft sell folding shovels, but it might be an overkill. Can't dig a hole, then find a hole. Can't do either, cover the ... ermm... remains with dead foliage, pine needles, etc.
4. Above snowline, digging can be literally a pain in you know where, especially if you are in a hurry. Snow can get pretty hard overnight. If you are in a group, it's best to dig a latrine trench when you make camp, and cover it when you leave.
5. Whatever you do, don't be a lazy bum and to save effort hang your posteriors over ledges or crevasses. It's downright dangerous. IF you have no choice but to utilize a steep slope in the landscape, make sure to anchor yourself well.
6. Avoid streams, avoid lakes, avoid areas near waterfalls/springs. People downstream use that water for drinking for god's sake.
7. Avoid paths, yes elementary isn't it? You'd be surprised how many people avoid effort of walking off the path into the jungle and just relieve themselves right on the well trodden track.
8. Carry a toilet paper roll. Water is unpractical in high-altitude.
9. Wash you hands... with soap... please!
That was some awesome reply with amazing details.
Cheers mate. I will keep all the things in mind.
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Very usefull advice given above. I wish every trekker was instructed in this!

10)... and bring a lighter to burn your toiletpaper.

The Annapurna circuit is also called Toilet paper circuit...

-Lui
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Originally Posted by Lui_DK View Post Very usefull advice given above. I wish every trekker was instructed in this!

10)... and bring a lighter to burn your toiletpaper.

The Annapurna circuit is also called Toilet paper circuit...

-Lui


Thanks for heads up Lui.
Indeed! Many first timers have doubts such as me. Maybe if name of the thread can be changed to something else more appealing perhaps? and made sticky by mods?

I will surely try to burn toilet paper if i use any. Moreover, I always try to keep mountains clean. at least from my own garbage. I pick plastic etc from the trail. Not in loads but whatever I can and dump it back into hotel dustbin or something when I comeback.
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Don't even think about burning toilet paper while you are under the tree line. Forest fires are a real menace. Pine needles catch and spread fire very fast. It's best to bury toilet paper, it decomposes fast enough in the damp environs. It might be a good idea to burn toilet paper in colder weather, may be above snow line, but by then you'll learn not to bother.

Title of the thread is fine, instead of "How to crap" may be it should be "How to take a crap", (grammatically more correct) but who cares.
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How to crap" may be it should be "How to take a crap", (grammatically more correct)
Not so. One may crap, for it is a verb as well as a noun. One may also have a crap. As to taking a crap --- I'd rather leave it! . Suspect that that is American usage?

Leaving aside the pedantry... I vote this thread as being IM's most useful toilet thread ever
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Originally Posted by vko View Post 8. Carry a toilet paper roll. Water is unpractical in high-altitude.
9. Wash you hands... with soap... please!
This i realized when i went potty in pang on the manali - leh highway ...... cold water on bum is a very unpleasant feeling .


11. Carry a small bottle of hand sanitizer ...
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Originally Posted by Nick-H View Post Leaving aside the pedantry... I vote this thread as being IM's most useful toilet thread ever
Even better than Peeing in the sink?
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