Trip to Gangotri and Gaumukh

ribhu95

Sahitya,

I would suggest you to moderate your responses....

Do note the following :

1. You solicited information.
2. Forum members provide the same on a voluntary basis and with the best of intentions.
3. Inputs given might be right or wrong, but the intentions have always been right.
4. If you believe you have precise information, do feel free to act on the same. Nobody will grudge you for the same.
5. Wish you a succesful trip.......hoping you provide the members a trip report and trip photos...

Cheers

ribhu

livinhimalayas

Thank you Ribhu for what you said.

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delhiwala

Sahitya,

Your post is not in good taste....

The facts are:

1. No road travel is allowed after 8 PM in uttarkhand Hills. And that's for travelers safety..

2. In emergency it's permitted, but only in emergencies....

3. No bus is run on that route in night. NOT EVEN IN EMERGENCY.

4. Mountains do bite....Every year thousands return to their families in coffins. These are mostly those people who underestimate the power of nature. Saying poetic sentences like mountains embrace won't work if you are caught in a tricky situation, mountains have no heart. If it embraces anybody, it's for eternity....

5. That kind of permits are granted only to experienced mountaineering teams and expeditions ? It's certainly not for the people whose only experience of mountaineering is watching 'Cliffhanger' in an AC room.

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sahitya

@ ribhu & livinhimalayas - i respect ur opinions and i have nothing against anyone here personally. if my statement "are u pulling my leg, taking my case" has offended anyone, i am extremely sorry, but it was only in humor.
as far as what i wrote further was from my recent experience, i believed i have every right to contradict a certain information. if not then please let me know, coz it seems a little autocratic then. i have been contradicted at several occassions and i have accepted that.

@delhiwala - whatever the facts are come from personal experiences. what might be fact to u might be fiction to me. secondly, whatever my views on the mountains are "personal" making a mockery out of it is exactly what u accuse me doing "not in good taste". poetic form or prose form i am not asking u to judge it. u have every right to judge my informations but why aim at personal aspects.
as far as cliffhanger goes, buddy this really shows how u judge a book by its cover. just for ur information i have training in mountaineering taken from the course carried out at the Mountaineering and Allied Sports Institute.

cheers and peace

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livinhimalayas

Sahitya,
From what you have written in the post quoted above and in other posts what comes across is your ignorance about the mountains and your lack of respect for them. You may have done a course in mountaineering but it certainly doesn't reflect in your lack of respect for the mountains. That i think is the first lesson taught and learnt.
To set the score right here since you have started it - Delhiwala is a NIM graduate, I don't think you get any better than that. I live in Uttarkashi and know this area more than you can sitting in Mumbai.
Your facts seem to be pretty skewed and you personal experience pretty meager from what you have posted on this thread. Also Delhiwala is a regular mountain traveller as can be judged by his posts all across the forum. Before trashing members on the forum who may be more experienced rethink. Also if you want to trash everyone's opinion and information, I wonder what are you doing on this thread asking questions. You should use your vast personal experience to plan your trip and not waste the time of members who would rather utilize that same time in helping someone else.

delhiwala

Sahitya,

Facts remain facts, they can't be fiction for anybody....

Anyway, my best wishes for your trip....

WeaKnee

I liked that

sahitya

livinhimalayas,
with due "respect",
as i mentioned above, u can definately oppose my FACTS & they have been opposed and so i have and i have nothing against that. i m not getting offended at that. u questioning my respect or thoughts about the mountains is getting personal.
delhiwala stated about my mountain experience as watching cliffhanger, i never questioned his mountaineering experience. nor did i mention anything less of his experience because i am not under-estimating him. he and for that matter u too are under-estimating me.
i have already apologised for terming ur information as "not concrete" which i repeat was my mistake. but i stated so only after speaking to the person at DFO, that too i have stated previously.
believe me i have lived in mumbai all my life and i m still not aware of a lot things. i at no point have mentioned that what i m stating is correct, but its my side of the story which unfortunately is not matching with what u mentioned."trashing" is too harsh a word being used for my contradiction.at no point did i make a statement that ur facts are "skewed" up. all i said was ur informatino doesn't sound concrete. sorry again for that
with a humble heart, i ask can't non agreement of a certain information be accpeted on this forum? if not, i wont.

delhiwala -
facts remain facts , ok i respect that. but many facts have turned fiction in my life and many fictions have turned to facts. not opposing u, just my viewpoint. sorry again for the contradiction. thanks for the wishes. i appreciate it.

thanks and peace

sks551

I hadn’t checked the thread for last couple days and very surprised to see some of the comment made by sahitya.
He has taken his comments back and I think we should leave it to that.

When I joined the IM about 3 months back, I soon realised some of the IM members like livinhimalayas , delhiwala and several others I could name go out of their way to help others. They didn’t had to do that. They help others because that's how they are and I do appreciate their help.
A lot of people write a lot of things hiding behind the internet which some times might be hurtful to others. I think we should consider how would you feel if someone said the same thing to you!!

ribhu95

Dear Forum Members,

With divine grace, we completed our trip succesfully. Thanks to all the forum members who had left behind details, who responded to queries and PMs. We sincerely appreciate the responses.

Itinerary :

Our itinerary was as follows :

Day 0 - Blore- Delhi (Ginger)
Day 1 - Delhi - Dehradun (train); Dehradun - Barkot (Chauhan Annexe)
Day 2 - Barkot - Yamunotri - Barkot (Chauhan Annexe)
Day 3 - Barkot - Uttarkashi (Monal)
Day 4 - Uttarkashi - Gangotri (GMVN)
Day 5 - Gangotri - Chirbasa - Gangotri - Harsil (GMVN)
Day 6 - Harsil (GMVN)
Day 7 - Harsil - Chamba (GMVN)
Day 8 - Harsil - Haridwar - Delhi (Ginger)
Day 9 - Delhi - Blore

Acco : All was well. Food was pretty decent and good vegetables for our kids at Chauhan annexe and monal. GMVN Chamba was a scary experience....no power, no water and food poisoning for our little one. And they charged us for providing hot water for bathing.

Medical assistance : Our little one had some challenges...We needed a preventive medical assistance in barkot (fever) and some medicines in uttarkashi...Chauhan annexe and monal organized for the same efficiently.

Transport : Shubhyatra was a major let down....The owner naveen mohan is a nice person. But he gave us a driver who does not understand safe driving by himself nor understands when told. also, the driver did not know the way to some of the places....we had expected much better from shubhyatra...

Chirbasa - Most of the forum members had advised against taking our younger one to Gaumukh. So we did a day trek till Chirbasa. It was an amazing experience.

Mode - Yamunotri - our little one took a pittu for up and walked down by herself. Rest of us walked up and down.

Chirbasa - Little one took a pittu both up and down but for about 3 kms. Rest of us walked up and down.

Ponies for Gaumukh - Ponies are available for Gaumukh at Gangotri. 15 ponies per day. Rates might depend on demand on a given day.

Photos - Expect to provide the link in a day or two.

Thanks again for the forum members.

Cheers

ribhu

sandeepbwn

I was in fact avoiding this thread for quite a time simply because I felt we were mere repeating the same things `n' number of time & for uncesessary reasons.

Sahitya,
We were posting replies to your queries (almost repeative) by providing info & facts. If fictions only sound music to your ears, we all are helpless. We could & only post facts however bitter it seems to you or hurt your ego of doing something by violation of existing laws & rules.

I hope we all have provided enough info regarding your plans. Buddy read it simple. Once the gate is closed, you can't go beyond. Hope you will not bug everyone at IM by repeating your query.

I know I'm sounding rude, but couldn't help by reading your approach to senior members like Delhiwala & livinhimalayas.

All the best

livinhimalayas

Sahitya either you have the facts or you don't, you can't make up facts that is lying if you know what I mean.
You spoke to the DFO office they gave you a date then you go around doubting the person who gave you information - by saying the person who gave you the info at the DFO office was not sounding sure.
Then when I confirmed what the guy had said you again said my information was wrong. I didn't give a date only said it always closes a few days before the temple does. Normally it is at least five days before and I was surprised that when you got the date as 15th. Well good for you that you got it from the horses mouth, but seemed to doubt him too till I came along confirming it. Then you go around asking if I was pulling your leg or what ever when I posted about the curfew. I don;t know where you have been in the mountains, around here what I have said stands to be true. Try coming up from Rishikesh after 8.00 pm and you will find out the truth. They will stop you and probably have you park all night at the gate and leave you only at 5.00 am or at the earliest at 4.30. This is not a new rule on the mountains around here has been in force for as long as I can remember and have been visiting the mountains which is probably longer than you are old.

My dear, by first soliciting information and then calling it false, you are doing nothing but undermining our intelligence and experience as well as credibility. We don;t need to under estimate you at all, you have done that for yourself. By constantly doubting every bit of information you got including the one given by DFO.

Thank you for being magnanimous enough to apologise. A lot of people wouldn;t have done that on this forum.

That is the truth and that is pretty apparent from your posts too that your knowledge of the rules and regulations around here is pretty meagre.

Well then what are you saying?

And what may be your side of the story? that people can freely walk to Gaumukh and beyond whenever they want, that people can drive up to gangotri after the official closing of the temple without a permit or an official letter of some sort, or that there is no curfew on mountains, or.. or .. or....

what would you term the comment as if not trashing the facts that someone is giving you. It may not 'sound concrete' to you but does that mean that I and a few other old mountain hands have been writing lies or falsifying facts on this forum, not only for you but for the others too, and misleading everyone. God knows what you wanted to hear from the forum!!
It seems you wanted everyone to agree with you that you could go off to Gomukh and beyond. Sorry to disappoint you but that is not how things work out. I would suggest you go and get your information at a place where it 'seems more credible' to you.

livinhimalayas

Thanks a lot guys for your comments they are heartily appreciated. Thank you.

livinhimalayas

We'll wait for your pics Ribhu, sorry to hear that your little one was not well.

sks551

ribhu,
So glad to hear that you have done your trip. Sorry to hear that your little one wasn't well...

I am a bit worried that Shubhyatra was a major let down....
We will be starting our trip in about a week and Shubhyatra is providing the transport to us. I'll send an email to Naveen and complain about your experience.
Please post your photos.....