treks without guide?

vijay4pratap

hi,
we are a group of three trekkers from delhi & NCR. we trek without guides and on our own. we have done (i) gangotri-tapovan (ii) mana, hemkund & VOF (iii) pindari glacier.

i would like to request all of u to guide us which treks we can take in gharwal on our own.

i would also request u to guide me which treks are suitable for mid may and early june onwards.

in anticipation
vijay

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Well guide is required where chances of getting lost are there or the trail is over difficult terrain.
If the trail is good and clear and you have the experience there is no need to carry any guide.
Having a guide or porter can be of good help to both the sides.
Try the Dodital trek. Start from Uttarkashi and get down at Hanumanchatti.
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Amitava343

Friends the trek I would suggest is Har-Ki Dun.(My Photographs are posted here).
From Dehradun bus goes upto a place called Sankri. All Travellers are required to register at Natwar. You don't have to do anything the bus automatically stops at the police station at Natwar and the conductor requests all tourist to go in and register. You are entering Banderpunch National Park. At Sanri poreters guides are available (If you reqquire them). The first stop is Taluka it will take about 4 to 5 hours. Rest house meals avaible.
The next stop is Sima across the river is Osla at a height. The only place in India to have a Duryodhan temple.
The next day cross the rive pucca bridge should be there by now, climb till the T junction. On the left it goes to Osla to the right to Har Ki Dun again rest house meals availabe. If you are lucky the view you will not forget. I had visited Har ki Dun in the first week of October for the first time in 1993 it was crystal clear. I had visited it again but that was on the way to Borasu Pass in August 1999, it was white out then but then it was August. Very popular trek for Bengalis and you might meet many.
Don't miss my photos in this site
Happy treking
Amitava343

Dilliwala

While that's the practice, it is possible to go upto Sankri without a permit. Going further requires obtaining a permit from the Forest Dept.

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You don't have to do anything the bus automatically stops at the police station at Natwar

Forest Check-post

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You are entering Banderpunch National Park

Govind National Park.

Amitava343

There is no question of any permits. You just have to register your names there pay a small amount for your cameras, they issue a certificate but it is never checked anywhere, but its better to keep it safe.
for foreigners the charges a bit heigh as compared to Indians

Natwar is before Sankri hence maybe you have to register before Sankri. My photographs ofHar ki Dun are here have a look its under landscapes

Dilliwala

If I understand correctly, you last entered Govind in 1999. Therefore please do not assume that nothing has changed since then.
Even though procedures are slightly different for passengers of public buses, not only does one have to pay per head, but vehicles also have to pay (only if they intend to go beyond Sankri though), so it's not just a camera fee that's charged. And in return a piece of paper granting permission is given, i.e. a permit.
Anyone intending to go upto Sankri only does not have to pay anything.
Even so they keep a look-out at Sankri for anyone who "changes their mind" and decides to go further. In 2005 I paid at Sankri to drive to Taluka and back.
And yes, they do check the permits carefully on exit (at Naitwar), to see that no one has underpaid number-of-days-wise.

All of the above has been valid for at least the last 5 years.

Amitava343

Diliiwala
I ented Sankri valley in 2005 "Without a permit". Things have most certainly changed since 1999. Before Sankri the stream has taken the bridge away I was there during the moonsoons.
I went up to Taluka came back the same way I was not asked by anyone regarding the permit. In Natwar the place has changed so much there also nobody asked about my permit, on the contary I asked if I should go and register myself, the locals told me "not required".

Dilliwala

Typical desi answer, but I assure you it is required. If you didn't get stopped/checked, that happens. Another member ks_bluechip went to HKD and back and paid nothing. But ranjan154 was there last November and his info corroborates what I'm saying.

arjunm

A little off track but a related question.

Our group is doing the Rupin pass this June. We would be travelling through Netwar and going up to Dhaula by Jeep.

1. Do we have to pay the permit fees?
2. How much is it per head?
3. Any other fees to be paid?

Arjun

Dilliwala

Hmm, very good Q. Normally I wud have said the Rupin valley is outside the park area but this map shows otherwise. But there are core-areas and buffer-areas and maybe Dhaula is in the buffer-zone where you don't have to pay. Best is to tell the Park checkpost staff at Naitwar exactly what your route is and they'll tell you if you have to pay.
If you need to know earlier, best is to call DFO Tons office at Purola, tel. 01373-223328.

As I recall I paid 40 bucks each for 2 persons, plus 50 bucks for the car in '05. Not sure if this was for one day or for a 3-day period; we returned to Sankri after a few hours at Taluka.

Amitava343

I fully agree with Dilliwala, you should register so that no further hassel are encountered on the way and the rules are changing everyday.
I do not know about Rupin Pass but in 1999 I was on the Borasu,at the last stage before entering Chitkul there is an ITBP camp, people are very polite at the same time tough also. They asked if I had a permit which I did not have, they asked for identification again answear was NO after much talking they let me go, after which I always carry an indification with me on all my Himalayan Trip just in case.
For Rupin may not be required ask if you have to go through any terrain which is procted on under ITBP or if there is camp there, if so atleast carry your Identification.