things needed to survive in cold desert for 8 days

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things needed to survive in cold desert for 8 days

could anyone give me list of things needed to survive in cold desert

where can i find shoes to walk on snow
and what other gears I need to walk on glacier
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1.snow boot.
2.gaiter.
3.windproof pants & jackets.
4.Good pair of snow mitten.
5.sleeping bag (giving warmth below -10c)
6.Sun glass
This are primary gears you should take.There may be lots other survival gears and it depends on where when,youre going.
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Adding to what Himalayantreker has already said...and if that cold desert has lots of snow and you are planning to do lots of trekking...

1. Down jacket
2. Balaclava wind stopper
3. Ice Axe & crampons (if you are planning to do any serious trekking in snow)
4. Good rucsack.
5. Sunscreen SPF above 30
6. Warm wollen socks
7. Good pair of gloves (apart from mittens)
etc

You can hire these things from NIM

http://www.nimindia.net/Equipment%20Hire.pdf

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do u know any place in himachal where I can hire those things


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Originally Posted by Manzey View Post Adding to what Himalayantreker has already said...and if that cold desert has lots of snow and you are planning to do lots of trekking...

1. Down jacket
2. Balaclava wind stopper
3. Ice Axe & crampons (if you are planning to do any serious trekking in snow)
4. Good rucsack.
5. Sunscreen SPF above 30
6. Warm wollen socks
7. Good pair of gloves (apart from mittens)
etc

You can hire these things from NIM

http://www.nimindia.net/Equipment%20Hire.pdf

Cheers!
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OP,
You need to define where you are going and what time of year. If not then there is a risk that you end up carrying a lot of stuff you wont use or missing out stuff that you do.
I can easily take 25kg of gear if a horse is going to carry it on a long trek in a cold season but if I am backpacking then anything over 15kg is tough when you have to carry 1-2 litres of water as well. Whatever you use for a winter trek in HP will suffice but spend the money on a good pair of boots first
hiring is cheaper but the stuff you can rely on is the stuff that you bought.........
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it will be snow all around a lot and i might have to walk on glaciers so mainly walking on snow and ice a lot
no firewood no fuel around with avg elevation abovr 5000mt
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You need to define where you are going and what time of year. If not then there is a risk that you end up carrying a lot of stuff you wont use or missing out stuff that you do.
I can easily take 25kg of gear if a horse is going to carry it on a long trek in a cold season but if I am backpacking then anything over 15kg is tough when you have to carry 1-2 litres of water as well. Whatever you use for a winter trek in HP will suffice but spend the money on a good pair of boots first
hiring is cheaper but the stuff you can rely on is the stuff that you bought.........
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I am concerned that you dont realise what you are doing, dont let me patronise someone who is experienced, but a winter trek, or even an spring/autumn one in Ladakh is not for beginners. If you are need to ask what equipment you need for a 5000+trek unsupported then you will have trouble completing it. food is heavy, depending on the type ,fuel adds 1-2 kilos, a tent 2 more unless you have high cost wertern state of the art stuff, never mind sleeping bag etc. Its 20+ kilos, more than I care to carry alone.
Please dont embark on this without research, people here can help but only with details of the route/season.
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I agree with "captain bruce" going out in the cold desert is not for newbies. There is a lot of risk involved and any person even the most experienced one will try to avoid doing alpine trekking in such hazardous place.
Proper planning is prerequisite. And the person doing so should be aware of the risk involved, and should be able to handle any emergencies that could arise.
I would advise "JINI.EE06B056" that you should first let us know the details of the cold desert. Then according to the geographic location of the cold desert anyone can suggest you life saving equipments needed and some essential and non essential things you need to carry out in the cold desert.
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+1000 to Captain and Poison. The OP doesn't seem to have any clue of what he/she is getting into. You sure seem to need a lot of preparation and planning and before all that info.
Don't plan that trip in a hurry.
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Absoluteley agree with your guys.

Are you planning to go in a group or alone with some porters / guides or is this an alpine style ?
Where are you planning to go for trek ? 5000 mts is quite an height which can cause severe AMS if you are not well acclimatized. I suggest you go through these threads once..

Coming down for air...AMS (Manali-Leh)... you better acclimatize!
http://www.indiamike.com/india/trekk...utions-t22982/

There are many more intresting thread in Mountaineering section.
http://www.indiamike.com/india/trekk...-in-india-f89/

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thats no a problem for me have lived in kaza for a long time

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Originally Posted by Manzey View Post Absoluteley agree with your guys.

Are you planning to go in a group or alone with some porters / guides or is this an alpine style ?
Where are you planning to go for trek ? 5000 mts is quite an height which can cause severe AMS if you are not well acclimatized. I suggest you go through these threads once..

Coming down for air...AMS (Manali-Leh)... you better acclimatize!
http://www.indiamike.com/india/trekk...utions-t22982/

There are many more intresting thread in Mountaineering section.
http://www.indiamike.com/india/trekk...-in-india-f89/

Cheers!
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it is north east to Losar in kaza spiti and elevation is nearly 5000mt near tsarap chu beginning

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Originally Posted by Poisonspy View Post I agree with "captain bruce" going out in the cold desert is not for newbies. There is a lot of risk involved and any person even the most experienced one will try to avoid doing alpine trekking in such hazardous place.
Proper planning is prerequisite. And the person doing so should be aware of the risk involved, and should be able to handle any emergencies that could arise.
I would advise "JINI.EE06B056" that you should first let us know the details of the cold desert. Then according to the geographic location of the cold desert anyone can suggest you life saving equipments needed and some essential and non essential things you need to carry out in the cold desert.
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Looks like you are planning the north route form kaza/ kibber over the parang la. Am I right? If you are then I have trekked it from the north side and can provide some info. Please give the proposed campsites and the date of starting. This will be important, otherwise any info will not be accurate.
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Originally Posted by JINI.EE06B056 View Post thats no a problem for me have lived in kaza for a long time
Whether you have lived in mountains or not, it will hardly make any difference. Your body needs to re acclimatized itself. So just forget you had been there for years. It is not immunization one shot and you are done for life.
There had been cases with professional mountaineers who had to be immediately grounded to low alties because their bodies could not acclimatize that time when they went to high alties.
Indian army is one of the best in high alties, they do have 7 days scheduled acclimatization regime.
And anything above 9000 ft. is considered as high alties. and at 5000 mts you are in excess of 6000+ ft. So be careful.
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Originally Posted by JINI.EE06B056 View Post it is north east to Losar in kaza spiti and elevation is nearly 5000mt near tsarap chu beginning
Are you going alone or in a group.
Going alone is not impossible but is surely not advisable due to few reasons.

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