Short Trek for High Altitude

Trishul · Apr 28th, 2007, 14:31

You can do Dodi tal & Shastra Tal in 4 days from Last road head

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prasham

I am willing to go for a trek preferably that can be completed in 4-6 days. I love trekking in higher altitudes (more than 14,000 Fts). Late may - mid june is preferred timing.

Have any suggestions? URGENT.

Rashmig · Jun 11th, 2007, 22:56

I am new here so I think I will be able to get away with some stupid questions.
1. What is shortest possible time in which Goecha La trek can be completed, starting from Siligudi. Please know that nobody will be responsible for advice given here. I am responsible for my actions. I know that if I try to emulate veterans I may put myself at risk. Still what is shortest span anybody has done or seen anybody doing Siligudi-Goechala-Siligudi
2. What is bhujkharak , is it local name of Bhujbasa , en route to Gangotri?
3. If I plan to trek to tapovan, what is best itinerary .This qs is different from first one, here I am asking best and optimum itinerary ,not the fastest possible
4. Is it ok to post same content on several threads? why am I asking==coz my queries are about two different areas (sikkim and garhwal)and I feel people on Indiamike discuss one particular area in one thread so many experts of one area may not read this post unless it is in their fav section.
5. Avidtrekker is specially requested to give his advice

AvidTrekker · Jun 12th, 2007, 02:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rashmig

I am new here so I think I will be able to get away with some stupid questions.
1. What is shortest possible time in which Goecha La trek can be completed, starting from Siligudi. Please know that nobody will be responsible for advice given here. I am responsible for my actions. I know that if I try to emulate veterans I may put myself at risk. Still what is shortest span anybody has done or seen anybody doing Siligudi-Goechala-Siligudi
2. What is bhujkharak , is it local name of Bhujbasa , en route to Gangotri?
3. If I plan to trek to tapovan, what is best itinerary .This qs is different from first one, here I am asking best and optimum itinerary ,not the fastest possible
4. Is it ok to post same content on several threads? why am I asking==coz my queries are about two different areas (sikkim and garhwal)and I feel people on Indiamike discuss one particular area in one thread so many experts of one area may not read this post unless it is in their fav section.
5. Avidtrekker is specially requested to give his advice

NO 1 Goecha la

Shiligudi - Darjeeling - Yuksom by road in 2 days or one & a half days.

Then the day wise schedule... I have nothing to add here (from the standard) coz the places depend on accommodation available.... if you are carrying your own tent, cooks etc, you can vary the route...

Again, if you are thinking of shortening the time, you will have to do "two" padaavs in one day... i don't think you will be able to do it... unless you are superwoman.... if you really are... then you don't need my advice.

Yuksom - Bakhim - Dzongri - Thangsing - Samiti Lake - Goecha La - Thangsing - Tsoka - Pemayangtse - Darjeeling - Shiligudi

So its 12 days Shiligudi to Shiligudi. If you don't mind hiring private taxi and very long hill drives, you can chop off two days in the driving portion. (you will be dog tired and in no shape to trek the next day)

NO 2 TAPOVAN

Ascend.. gangotri - bhujbasa - gaumukh - tapovan [4 days]

You can descend in three days back to gangotri

Read this archival thread

Just trek the distance which is do-able. Don't try to cram in "as much as possible". It will ruin your holiday.

Happy trekking

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machadinha · Jun 12th, 2007, 02:38

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Originally Posted by Rashmig

4. Is it ok to post same content on several threads? why am I asking==coz my queries are about two different areas (sikkim and garhwal)and I feel people on Indiamike discuss one particular area in one thread so many experts of one area may not read this post unless it is in their fav section.

Nope. Kindly stick to 1 post per identical query & think about the best forum or existing thread to post it in. In case of cross-state questions, the Itinerary forum might suit you for instance; while mountaineering and similar questions often end up in the general Trekking forum, or if it's mostly about transport then one of those forums might do, etc.

Alternatively, break up your question into the relevant parts pertaining to this or that forum or thread. (If you have an outlined plan however you're probably better off keeping it all together on one clearly defined thread.) Or as succinctly summed up in the site's forum rules:

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No Multiple Postings [...] Find the board you want your post in and post it. Posting the same message in multiple forums is not allowed.

On the general art of getting the answers you're looking for, see also How to get the most out of the Itinerary section. While it deals with that specific subject, it can easily be related to any other.

Rashmig · Jun 12th, 2007, 19:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by AvidTrekker

NO 1 Goecha la

Shiligudi - Darjeeling - Yuksom by road in 2 days or one & a half days.

Then the day wise schedule... I have nothing to add here (from the standard) coz the places depend on accommodation available.... if you are carrying your own tent, cooks etc, you can vary the route...

Again, if you are thinking of shortening the time, you will have to do "two" padaavs in one day... i don't think you will be able to do it... unless you are superwoman.... if you really are... then you don't need my advice.

Yuksom - Bakhim - Dzongri - Thangsing - Samiti Lake - Goecha La - Thangsing - Tsoka - Pemayangtse - Darjeeling - Shiligudi

So its 12 days Shiligudi to Shiligudi. If you don't mind hiring private taxi and very long hill drives, you can chop off two days in the driving portion. (you will be dog tired and in no shape to trek the next day)

Avid once again i am here with questions.
I am no superwoman but this superman friend of mine plans to do goecha la in 9 days from Siligudi to Siligudi. i am not likely to join him but i want to win a bet as well, will serve him right ...so i asked that question from you. Am i likely to lose this bet?

btw why all plans for goecha la being discussed on this board involve a different route for coming back? is it possible to do this in 9 days if sumone takes shortest route to la and comes back same way? well.. i know you are not responsible for me losing face or bet or life ... just asking your advice. I saw that you are always accurate in ur opinion ..thanks in anticipation

himadventures · Jun 12th, 2007, 19:51

I think- we have gone little aside as I am interested to know what he thinks about rushing towards ALTITUDE.
Although AVID and many other experienced people have expressed thier views and contributed time and energy on this subject...I am just interested to know if message has reached home !

Rashmig · Jun 12th, 2007, 20:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by himadventures

I think- we have gone little aside as I am interested to know what he thinks about rushing towards ALTITUDE.
Although AVID and many other experienced people have expressed thier views and contributed time and energy on this subject...I am just interested to know if message has reached home !

He says that he knows a group of amature trekkerst that included females, who did it in 9 days (sili2sili) without ANY sort of problems so he doesnt see whats the doubt.

dooms · Jun 12th, 2007, 22:03

Typically you can take a shortcut while coming back from Goecha La without visiting Dzongri.I guess it should be possible on the way up too.
My guess on how your friend might do it safely
Day1. Siliguri - Yuksom
Day2. Yuksom - Tsoka
Day3. Tsoka - Dzongri
Day4. Dzongri - Rest and Acclimatization.
Day5. Dzongri - Thangshing
Day6. Thangshing - Samiti Lake
Day7. Samiti Lake - Goecha La - Samiti Lake
Day8. Samiti Lake - Tsoka (Shortcut)
Day9. Tsoka - Yuksom Start early from Tsoka and reach Yuksom early and travel all day to Siliguri (Not sure about this).

I havent done this trek but had planned to do it last year. So any mistakes in the itinerary/acclimatization-process may please be corrected by more knowledgeable people.

AvidTrekker · Jun 13th, 2007, 14:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rashmig

Avid once again i am here with questions.
I am no superwoman but this superman friend of mine plans to do goecha la in 9 days from Siligudi to Siligudi. i am not likely to join him but i want to win a bet as well, will serve him right ...so i asked that question from you. Am i likely to lose this bet?

btw why all plans for goecha la being discussed on this board involve a different route for coming back? is it possible to do this in 9 days if sumone takes shortest route to la and comes back same way? well.. i know you are not responsible for me losing face or bet or life ... just asking your advice. I saw that you are always accurate in ur opinion ..thanks in anticipation

Its possible.... but someone [not he, but others who are following him and are not as strong] may get HAPE/HACE and maybe die doing it. They may actually do it and live.... but they won't enjoy the trek, that's certain. He is doing it just to satisfy his ego. BTW, how will he prove that he did it? Photos are a dime a dozen on the net, and pic editors allow one to insert your pic in the right place...

You should have mentioned the bet in the very first instance. You have also wasted my time and this Forum's time...

I will not be answering such foolishnesses from now on. Lately I have come across increasing numbers of fools rushing in where angels fear to tread, and some other misguided members chastising me for warning such "rushers" about the fact that their life is on the line. India has enuff population, i suppose... one less won't matter much.

Trishul · Jun 13th, 2007, 16:24

Dodital is the best trek for you you start from rishikesh to uttarkasi to sangamchatti by bus then sangamchatti to agoda to dodital

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prasham

I am willing to go for a trek preferably that can be completed in 4-6 days. I love trekking in higher altitudes (more than 14,000 Fts). Late may - mid june is preferred timing.

Have any suggestions? URGENT.

Rashmig · Jun 13th, 2007, 17:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by AvidTrekker

You should have mentioned the bet in the very first instance. You have also wasted my time and this Forum's time...

I will not be answering such foolishnesses from now on. Lately I have come across increasing numbers of fools rushing in where angels fear to tread, and some other misguided members chastising me for warning such "rushers" about the fact that their life is on the line. India has enuff population, i suppose... one less won't matter much.

Sorry avid , when i asked i treid to make myself clear that about goecha la i wanted to know best possibility. Sorrry if i wasted ur time.

here is how i framed my question...still i know you are answering hundreds of qs here so maybe you felt it waste of time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rashmig

What is shortest possible time in which Goecha La trek can be completed, starting from Siligudi. Please know that nobody will be responsible for advice given here. I am responsible for my actions. I know that if I try to emulate veterans I may put myself at risk. Still what is shortest span anybody has done or seen anybody doing Siligudi-Goechala-Siligudi

kshithish · Jun 14th, 2007, 17:03

here are some of the available options
1) Triund Mcloedganj HP
2) Churdhar Peak HP
3) Tugnath Chandra Shila peak Uttarakand

This Places can be covered in 2 to 3 days time

Rashmig · Jun 14th, 2007, 17:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by kshithish

here are some of the available options
1) Triund Mcloedganj HP
2) Churdhar Peak HP
3) Tugnath Chandra Shila peak Uttarakand

This Places can be covered in 2 to 3 days time

How much hieght is gained from Chopta to Chandrashila peak.
Is it safe to do it in one day for ordinary woman.
Somebody told me that option of sleeping at Tungnath is available , is it necessary for ordinary woman to sleep-over at Tungnath before climbing further to Chandrashila peak?

kshithish · Jun 14th, 2007, 20:19

Chopta is at 2600 Mtrs and Tungnath is at 3600 Chandrashila is at 4190 Mtrs. The Aultitude gain from Chopta to Chandrashila is 1600 Mtrs aprox in a 6.5 Km Trek. I have seen lot of ladies of all ages going upt Chandrashilla and returing back on the same day. But to be on a safer side it is recommened to take break at Tungnath. At tungnath there are small and safe accomodation available were they provide you with A bed and rajai to spent the night rooms would be on a sharing basis they will charge you 150 to 200 bucks for a night( kalikamli lodge is the best option in tungnath). Start from Chopta around 2 or 3 pm and you ll be in tungnath depending on your Physiacl capablity in 2 to 4 hours I mean before sun set, and next day start early by 4 AM to Chandrashila It would take another 2 hours for 2 Km climbe. The most beautiful time to be on the summitis at the sunrise the view is Breath taking. If you require I can provide you with contact numbers of the lodge owners etc.

Rashmig · Jun 14th, 2007, 23:00

Thanx kshitij please mail me contact numbers of Chopta and Tungnath

Jun 11th, 2007, 22:56	#47
Rashmig Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 14	newbie I am new here so I think I will be able to get away with some stupid questions. 1. What is shortest possible time in which Goecha La trek can be completed, starting from Siligudi. Please know that nobody will be responsible for advice given here. I am responsible for my actions. I know that if I try to emulate veterans I may put myself at risk. Still what is shortest span anybody has done or seen anybody doing Siligudi-Goechala-Siligudi 2. What is bhujkharak , is it local name of Bhujbasa , en route to Gangotri? 3. If I plan to trek to tapovan, what is best itinerary .This qs is different from first one, here I am asking best and optimum itinerary ,not the fastest possible 4. Is it ok to post same content on several threads? why am I asking==coz my queries are about two different areas (sikkim and garhwal)and I feel people on Indiamike discuss one particular area in one thread so many experts of one area may not read this post unless it is in their fav section. 5. Avidtrekker is specially requested to give his advice

Jun 14th, 2007, 23:00	#60
Rashmig Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 14	Thanx kshitij please mail me contact numbers of Chopta and Tungnath Last edited by machadinha : Jun 15th, 2007 at 00:05. Reason: removed full quote

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dooms Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 164	Typically you can take a shortcut while coming back from Goecha La without visiting Dzongri.I guess it should be possible on the way up too. My guess on how your friend might do it safely Day1. Siliguri - Yuksom Day2. Yuksom - Tsoka Day3. Tsoka - Dzongri Day4. Dzongri - Rest and Acclimatization. Day5. Dzongri - Thangshing Day6. Thangshing - Samiti Lake Day7. Samiti Lake - Goecha La - Samiti Lake Day8. Samiti Lake - Tsoka (Shortcut) Day9. Tsoka - Yuksom Start early from Tsoka and reach Yuksom early and travel all day to Siliguri (Not sure about this). I havent done this trek but had planned to do it last year. So any mistakes in the itinerary/acclimatization-process may please be corrected by more knowledgeable people.

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kshithish Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NewDEelhi Posts: 6	Chopta is at 2600 Mtrs and Tungnath is at 3600 Chandrashila is at 4190 Mtrs. The Aultitude gain from Chopta to Chandrashila is 1600 Mtrs aprox in a 6.5 Km Trek. I have seen lot of ladies of all ages going upt Chandrashilla and returing back on the same day. But to be on a safer side it is recommened to take break at Tungnath. At tungnath there are small and safe accomodation available were they provide you with A bed and rajai to spent the night rooms would be on a sharing basis they will charge you 150 to 200 bucks for a night( kalikamli lodge is the best option in tungnath). Start from Chopta around 2 or 3 pm and you ll be in tungnath depending on your Physiacl capablity in 2 to 4 hours I mean before sun set, and next day start early by 4 AM to Chandrashila It would take another 2 hours for 2 Km climbe. The most beautiful time to be on the summitis at the sunrise the view is Breath taking. If you require I can provide you with contact numbers of the lodge owners etc.

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