Short Trek for High Altitude

Prasham

I am willing to go for a trek preferably that can be completed in 4-6 days. I love trekking in higher altitudes (more than 14,000 Fts). Late may - mid june is preferred timing.

Have any suggestions? URGENT.

vistet

14,000+ feet within a couple of days - can´t think any way of achieving this from the usual starting points. And I´ would feel some concern seeing anyone doing it , not exactly safe ascent rates.

Prasham

Right at the start of my thread i have crossed bad luck. Instead of receiving any positive suggestions I have started getting ADVICE.

I know that its tough but maybe I can start some trek which has its Base Camp at 8-10K feets. So instead of advising me please suggest me some trek that can be completed max within 6 days. I don't have any more time.

I am sorry if you feel that my reply is little rough but then thats how I am.

Bye & Thanks anyways.

AvidTrekker

Politeness is a virtue. Roughness may be good as an individual, but when the individual wants to talk to someone, especially on a public forum, politeness helps.

For example, "I want to jump off a good scenic cliff above 14000 feet with a 5000 foot drop without a parachute but carrying an open umbrella as a windbreaker. Please suggest me some such scenic cliff" sounds a very good question and is worded very politely indeed.

No person in his right mind would answer such a question, even though politely asked.

vistet answered the post suitably warning you of the dangers of AMS

If you care so little for your own health; there are many things you can do sitting at the Computer. Eat a fluorescent tube light for example, or even the Computer monitor. People have done it. Its not as dangerous as going to 14000 feet plus in two days.

Indian Army Jawans are flown to Leh from Delhi for posting onwards to Siachen. They have a compulsory layover peroid of seven days where they are told to sleep for seven days except for a shit and pee. This is for acclimatization. The Army Jawans are very very fit. They can trek 3000 feet up in an afternoon carrying a 40 kilo kit. I really doubt whether you can carry a 40 kilo load up 3000 feet in half a day. If they require acclimatization at their fitness levels, so do all of us.... in fact much more so.

Which is what vistet was trying to tell you politely so far.

I know someone who was very wise like you and died in 2004 in Leh becoz "he had only seven days to trek".

I know a few people who have had AMS at 10K feet. [your starting figure]

If you are superman, you can fly to 14000 feet in 6 mins, why take 6 days for such a simple task??

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ba9rn

Very well put AT. Maybe if the OP can swallow his pride and talk with a little politeness (he lives in Heaven after all ), he might be rewarded with some suggestions.

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Prasham

PLEASE DON'T BE SO ANGRY. I CAN'T STAND YOUR ANGER ESPECIALLY WHEN I FEEL THAT YOU ARE MY REAL GURU AS FAR AS TRAVELLING/TREKKING IS CONCERNED.

Avidtrekker, i didn't mean to hurt or be rough with anyone on this forum. If i did I am really SORRY.

I am from gujarat and into my dad's business. I don't get many chances to visit offbeat places like this and hence I was little more than curious. Thanks for reminding me of the risks.

Can you help me out. I have 6-7 days from delhi - XXXXXX - delhi and then I shall have to return to gujarat. Can you suggest some desitantion? PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEE.

Moreover I have been to 14.5 K feets twice (Bhrigu Lake, Nr. Manali). Ofcourse I had aclimatization of about 3-4 days at 10000 ft. This is just for your information for your suggestions, if any.


Sorry once again.

AvidTrekker

All these treks are from the Kangra Valley...

From Mcleodganj, trek to Triund, then to Laka pass top [also called Indrahar Pass] then return back

Here again, you will be going from 10000 [Triund] to Indrahar Pass at 15000 plus. Its tough. AMS is possible.

Minkiani Pass is another neighboring pass, from Kareri Lake. Roughly same height.

A safer ascent is to Thamsar ka Jot via Billing and Rajgundha coz you will ascend in four [or five days] instead of three days in the other two passes.

If you don't have much trekking experience, [it appears that two times Bhrigu lake 13900 ft is not much] avoid the treks above. It will be very tiring.

If you really feel like listening to my words, do something like the Jari to Chandrakhani Pass trek [Kullu valley]..... its a circular route and can be done in 6 days and you will touch a respectable height.

Even if you are a good trekker, going from 10000 to 15000 should take at least 5 days.

day 1 at 10000 acclimatize and rest [loaf around, take pics]
day 2 10000 to 11800 [average 1800 feet per day gain]
day 3 11800 to 13500
day 4 13500 rest and acclimatize
day 5 13500 to 15000

Return in 2 or 3 days.

The locals can climb from 10000 to 15000 in a single day. I have seen that even they get mild AMS symptoms [headache and loss of appetite] In spite of spending their lives on the mountains, they too have too suffer mild AMS symptoms now and then.

Best thing would be accumulate 18 days holidays and do a proper trek going upto 5000 meters plus.

All the best and Happy trekking !!

Prasham

Thank you for your suggestions & I hope you have forgiven me now. Also I assure you that in future I shall me more careful.
Thanks again.

Bye

tasuray

You can think about Kedar tal. Gangotri to Bhujkharak - stay. Bhujkharak to Kedarkharak & stay.Kedarkharak to Kedar Tal and back to Bhujkharak. Bhujkharak to Gangotri.But risk is yours.Very tough route so if any thing happens don't blame me.Approx. 18 kms from Gangotri at 15000 ft.

marshaltit

Though I am not a very experienced trekker I surprised the way senior members react to prasham's question.Is it really that difficult to trek above 14000 ft in 6 days or so?for examle Goecha La trek in Sikkim one has to climb 6000ft to above 15000ft in just 5 days(standard schedule yoksom to goecha la).taking medicine like coca helps greatly in such situation.

jyotipg

Hi Marshal,

Goeche La Trek is 5 days one side. Here prasham has been asking for a trek which can be completed in 4-6 days.

I second Avid's opinion. Many people dont know the value of acclimatisation and pay heavily for it.

I had once advised a group of three very fit trekkers planning to go to Tapovan. Inspite of my asing then for a mandatorily acclimatisation day in Gangotri, they didnt do.. And this what happened to them.

The first one started feeling breathlessness in Bhojwasa(3800m). He started thinking that he is going to die soon and was ready for a airlift. He had to be moved to lower altitude immediately.

The second one started getting major headache and uncomfortable in Tapovan.

The third one(the strongest and fittest of the three) also started getting headaches and he couldnt get any sleep for 3 nights).

I donno how much they would have enjoyed this trek at all.

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AvidTrekker

Please bother to read OP a little more carefully again.

He has stated 6 days Delhi to Delhi.

Which means going upto 14000 in two or three days.

You say that you are not an experienced trekker. If something bad happens to someone after "taking coca" [which is a banned substance and can give you 20 years in jail], would you acknowledge responsibility for such a harebrained tip??

Bhaswaran

Hi

I am planning for Tapovan and will be having one night at Harsil, one night at Gangotri, and one night at Bhojwasa before finally ascending to Tapovan. I think that will be okay for acclimitazation. Any help will be appreciated.

I have also learnt about homeopathic medicine "Coca". Is it banned nowadays? I also remember somewhere that trekkers can take allopathic medicine, "Diamox" which acts in the same way but have to take lot of water for it.

Prasham

Hi,

I am getting more than confused now. Lets just forget about Trekking in high altitudes.

Which is the nearest destination to Delhi which is accessible by car/jeep/bus and is at height of atleast 14-15000 fts. Any suggestions.

Please.

Bhaswaran

Go to Manali from Delhi, and from there go to Ladakh or Spiti.

But I cannot understand why u r so fond of those 14-15000 ft heights. From Delhi, there are so many pictersque places all around - Garhwal, Kumaon, Himachal , in 1-2 nights journey.

enjoy