Roopkund after Milam Glacier

chits007 · Oct 16th, 2007, 14:08

Thanks devleenas for info..

One thing have you looked for Suraj Kund ?? . I heard its a lake somewhere near Milam Glacier..very few know the route.

Its bad that ITBP guys took the camera ..may be if one plan in Sep they are little flexible. In May its season time and so many trekker flourish the area so they have to be little bit cautioned.

For permit, If one can send their photo and ID proof, some guide can arrange it before hand. That will save a day and you can skip Lilam and head straight to Bugudiyar.

Yes if one has time one should club ND-EBC , require couple of days.

Where are your pics of trek ? and which time frame you went there ?

devleenas · Oct 16th, 2007, 14:26

We went there in June .
Ya SurajKund is beyond Milam Glacier but we didnt find the way and moreover you will need equipments to go that far which we didnt carry .
We were fools to submit all our cameras. We saw people carrying their still camera's to the Galcier .
My trek pics are in flicker . Forgot the link and i dont have t access from office .
Will paste the link sometime later . For now pasting four of them here

chits007 · Oct 16th, 2007, 14:27

whats the altitude of surja kund and what special gears its requires ?

Your pics are not here...make sure to resize them to 800*600 in order to upload at IM

devleenas · Oct 16th, 2007, 14:31

sorry missed the files.
Find them here
had to compress the images for attaching

1st : at Martoli , The house where we stayed was a beautiful log house
2nd : Bridge Ganga pass view
3rd : Glacier walk after Nahardevi.
4th : Adorable Silky goats and Lambs on the Milam Trek . They can scare you with their looks
and you will feel absolutely jealous how they hope skip and jump on those snowy paths

devleenas · Oct 16th, 2007, 14:32

sorry chits , no idea of Suraj Kund altitude .
Yes you need gears to go there

Almoraboy · Oct 16th, 2007, 20:08

suraj kund lies beyond milam glacier. will require at kleast 1 day from milam village itself. hence u need to takwe tents to go there and sleep.

uttam · Oct 16th, 2007, 21:07

Strange is the only word which comes to my mind whenever i think of the way ITBP works. I did Milam Glacier NDEB Camp trek in 2006, luckly they did not ask us to submit our cameras with them before we went to the glacier. Such ITBP created problems to trekkers are there in Kinnaur also. At times it appears ITBP makes its own rules independent of other Government agencies. So far i have been lucky with them. Anyway, if photos and report of my trek is of any help to any one, here is the link:-

http://uuttam.multiply.com/photos/al...st _Base_Camp
http://uuttam.multiply.com/journal/i...a dadevi_east

AvidTrekker · Oct 17th, 2007, 00:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by devleenas

Our guide knew a guy there who had just returned from a hunt in the upper tracks of the glaciers sorrunding Milam Village. He went to collect what he named “Kira Grass” , one end of it is grass like and the other end resembles a dead worm. Till date I dint know what it actually is. Tried googling it but didn’t get much help. According to Kushal (the guy) Tibetans buy them at exorbitant prices.

The scientific Latin nomenclature for Kira Grass is Cordyceps.

See this link.

chits007 · Oct 17th, 2007, 00:56

@Avid..
Please shed some light of Suraj Kund also..how good is the trail? is it worth going? does trekker often ( i guess not)..anywhere we can see pics of that lake?

for ITBP i guess we can butter them

with magazine and some good sweets ( ladoo's etc) ..what all you say ?

AvidTrekker · Oct 17th, 2007, 01:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by chits007

@Avid..
Please shed some light of Suraj Kund also..how good is the trail? is it worth going? does trekker often ( i guess not)..anywhere we can see pics of that lake?

for ITBP i guess we can butter them

with magazine and some good sweets ( ladoo's etc) ..what all you say ?

I have not been to Suraj Kund myself. In September, [less snow] the trail is open and a local guide may be hired. You will still be walking on the glacier and the lateral moraine [rough on boots and ankles] Without rucksacks the trip can be done to Suraj Kund and back in a longish day carrying only food water and raincoat etc.

There are two camping grounds up there marked on the map. You will require full equipment to camp there for a day.

chits007 · Oct 17th, 2007, 01:45

which map ? leomann ?is it there in lonely planet ?

devleenas · Oct 17th, 2007, 11:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by AvidTrekker

The scientific Latin nomenclature for Kira Grass is Cordyceps.

See this link.

I should have known whom to ask

ya , thats what Kushal showed us

AvidTrekker · Oct 19th, 2007, 10:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by devleenas

I should have known whom to ask

ya , thats what Kushal showed us

The kira refers to the hindi word for worm which is keeDaa.

Quote:

which map ? leomann ?is it there in lonely planet ?

The US Army Map series which I downloaded from link given in IM. It shows a "suraj kund glacier" so i assume that the kund ought to be there. The global warming has taken a toll on most of these glaciers and i imagine that reaching suraj kund is not as difficult nowadays as before.

rolling_25 · Dec 1st, 2007, 09:55

Hi Devleena,

Thanks for your help and suggestion. I Was little busy with office work/tour, so could not reply. with the help of your travel log and suggestion, We made an Itinerary for Milam Glacier including Pachu Glacier via Gannaghar, but it is coming a long 23days (from KOL to KOL). Getting leave for so many days is tough, not only for me for other member too. Now we have decided to Visit Kuari Pass from Ghat. Thanks once again for your all help.

Rolling
(Somenath)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rolling_25/

PS:- i have seen the photographs you posted in Flickr, all are nice particularly photo no 141.

ashutosh69 · Dec 18th, 2007, 02:58

Guys ....check out Google earth with the "Community Layer" on. You would see the approximate location of Suraj Kund near Milam Village. Google Earth...for some reason has photographed Milam Village in High Resolution!!!

Oct 16th, 2007, 14:31	#19
devleenas Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 95	sorry missed the files. Find them here had to compress the images for attaching 1st : at Martoli , The house where we stayed was a beautiful log house 2nd : Bridge Ganga pass view 3rd : Glacier walk after Nahardevi. 4th : Adorable Silky goats and Lambs on the Milam Trek . They can scare you with their looks and you will feel absolutely jealous how they hope skip and jump on those snowy paths Attached Thumbnails

Oct 16th, 2007, 20:08	#21
Almoraboy Trekker Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: London.....Himalayas in between Posts: 953	suraj kund lies beyond milam glacier. will require at kleast 1 day from milam village itself. hence u need to takwe tents to go there and sleep. __________________ Trek blog over here

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Oct 16th, 2007, 14:08	#16
chits007 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Noida Posts: 269	Thanks devleenas for info.. One thing have you looked for Suraj Kund ?? . I heard its a lake somewhere near Milam Glacier..very few know the route. Its bad that ITBP guys took the camera ..may be if one plan in Sep they are little flexible. In May its season time and so many trekker flourish the area so they have to be little bit cautioned. For permit, If one can send their photo and ID proof, some guide can arrange it before hand. That will save a day and you can skip Lilam and head straight to Bugudiyar. Yes if one has time one should club ND-EBC , require couple of days. Where are your pics of trek ? and which time frame you went there ?

Oct 16th, 2007, 14:26	#17
devleenas Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 95	We went there in June . Ya SurajKund is beyond Milam Glacier but we didnt find the way and moreover you will need equipments to go that far which we didnt carry . We were fools to submit all our cameras. We saw people carrying their still camera's to the Galcier . My trek pics are in flicker . Forgot the link and i dont have t access from office . Will paste the link sometime later . For now pasting four of them here

Oct 16th, 2007, 14:27	#18
chits007 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Noida Posts: 269	whats the altitude of surja kund and what special gears its requires ? Your pics are not here...make sure to resize them to 800*600 in order to upload at IM

Oct 16th, 2007, 14:32	#20
devleenas Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 95	sorry chits , no idea of Suraj Kund altitude . Yes you need gears to go there

Oct 16th, 2007, 21:07	#22
uttam Travelling to return to strangers Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: New Delhi Posts: 166	Strange is the only word which comes to my mind whenever i think of the way ITBP works. I did Milam Glacier NDEB Camp trek in 2006, luckly they did not ask us to submit our cameras with them before we went to the glacier. Such ITBP created problems to trekkers are there in Kinnaur also. At times it appears ITBP makes its own rules independent of other Government agencies. So far i have been lucky with them. Anyway, if photos and report of my trek is of any help to any one, here is the link:- http://uuttam.multiply.com/photos/al...st _Base_Camp http://uuttam.multiply.com/journal/i...a dadevi_east

Oct 17th, 2007, 00:56	#24
chits007 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Noida Posts: 269	@Avid.. Please shed some light of Suraj Kund also..how good is the trail? is it worth going? does trekker often ( i guess not)..anywhere we can see pics of that lake? for ITBP i guess we can butter them with magazine and some good sweets ( ladoo's etc) ..what all you say ?

Oct 17th, 2007, 01:45	#26
chits007 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Noida Posts: 269	which map ? leomann ?is it there in lonely planet ?

Dec 1st, 2007, 09:55	#29
rolling_25 Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: KOLKATA Posts: 18	Hi Devleena, Thanks for your help and suggestion. I Was little busy with office work/tour, so could not reply. with the help of your travel log and suggestion, We made an Itinerary for Milam Glacier including Pachu Glacier via Gannaghar, but it is coming a long 23days (from KOL to KOL). Getting leave for so many days is tough, not only for me for other member too. Now we have decided to Visit Kuari Pass from Ghat. Thanks once again for your all help. Rolling (Somenath) http://www.flickr.com/photos/rolling_25/ PS:- i have seen the photographs you posted in Flickr, all are nice particularly photo no 141.

Dec 18th, 2007, 02:58	#30
ashutosh69 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 154	Guys ....check out Google earth with the "Community Layer" on. You would see the approximate location of Suraj Kund near Milam Village. Google Earth...for some reason has photographed Milam Village in High Resolution!!!

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