No sense!

bora · Jul 14th, 2005, 23:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by docgirl2005

Again sorry for saying you were crass, I really didnt mean it. If theres any place on the net, where I would feel no shame to apologize its here on Indiamike. Because I think its the best site out there...and some of the best people too..no joke..believe me I have been burned on other sites...lol..

This very aptly puts the IM spirit in perspective. Thanks DG.

Rob_The_Pom · Jul 15th, 2005, 00:46

S'okay, DocGirl! The words to quote are just cool.

As are his words to Jerusalem, social commentary in a hymn, now there's clever stuff!
Anyway I'm

again.

I'm just puzzled how someone can get rather stressed about trekking?
Ah well...

Nick-H · Jul 15th, 2005, 00:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaushiks

... ... ... The height may be around 30ft or more. You wear your life jacket and jump. Nothing harmful can happen. However, if you have never jumped from a height, you might get scared. A lot of people go, stand, look down and come down walking. They know very well, the fear is irrational. ... ... ...

No! Not irrational at all. I can not abide the feeling of falling six feet, let alone thirty! I would never voluntaraly do such a thing.

And a thirty-foot drop is way enough to hurt you. Sailors get taught specific techniques for walking off the side of a ship wearing a life jacket, and they also get told why those techniques are necessary, like the upward force of the lifejacket could break your neck if not tied and held properly...

kaushiks · Jul 15th, 2005, 01:22

Yeah, all those techniques are very necessary after a certain height, no doubts. 30ft or may be 20ft don't know. However, if your qualified rafting guide asks amatuers to jump and promises it is safe, you can imagine. Thats the kind of height, it is. Not the ones sailors jump from with training. Infact, most of us, jumping from any height into some river would be quiet irrational and not to be done. It becomes rational in this case, because a professional tells you it is totally safe and explains why and encourages you to jump. Any risk and he will be lynched by everybody around.

steven_ber · Jul 15th, 2005, 01:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by steven_ber

Aristocat has ruffled his own feathers more than anyone else has.

Though not always unintentionally.

Quote:

Originally Posted by trekker2

Those who fail to understand usually lack an education.

Jul 15th, 2005, 02:00

Those who think they understand may have misunderstood.

webtraveller · Jul 15th, 2005, 02:33

You have to appreciate impact of the first post of Aristocat. 65 replies in just little more than 24 hours.
Keeping it aside, Question to Aristocat.
"Why do people watch television for extented times?
specially, the couch potatos?, They dont get any exercise, build up fat, increase cholesterol, get heart attack. And still they prefer to be couch potatoes than just go out for jogging, walking etc. Ask them, they will tell it is better way than jogging, walking or even trekking.
So, it is purely individual tastes and approaches.

I would like to narrate you a small incident.
When I was back in India, the company where I used to work conducted a leadership training in Madikeri, Coorg, Western Karnataka. We left in the evening to reach Madikeri by morning to the resort where we have to stay.
About 10 Km away from the resort, the bus had a breakdown. And the driver informed us that the we are just a few kms away from the resort (he did not give the exact distance). He told, the assisstant has to go to Madikeri by some means and get help. It may take any where between 4 to 5 hours to get the bus in shape. The time was 5.00 am in the morning. And if we are stuck for 5 hours just in the bus waiting for help, it may well become 10am.
The guide and training lead suggested few options with possible consequences.
1. Stay there. We may have to wait until almost mid morning without coffee, breakfast.
we were already tired by the long journey. Needed a bath also.
2. Walk the distance. Dont know the exact distance but a few kms. Though it was a cold morning, we could walk off in an hour or so. But we would be getting a good bath, coffee, breakfast.

So we started off. Some people took their entire baggage. I myself was a great hater of walking, now has to hike for some time. So a few of us took what is essential like a pair of cloths, toothbrush etc in a small backpack.

We headed to the resort. It was all the 10 Kilometers, all the exersion, about 3 hours. Everybody was cursing after sometime in the beginning. But The last two hours were the highlight. We became kind of accustomed to the walking (hiking). Started enjoying the morning, chatting, joking, singing, helping (those who carried huge packs). That was really good.
We reached by 8.30am. The bus came by 8.40am. Just 10 mins after we reached. But still we thought it was the best.

That day, near the camp fire, Guide cum Trainging Lead announced that, the whole morning affair was a setup. They planned it such a way that, the bus driver will announce breakdown just 10 Kms away etc. The bus was perfectly alright. Part of the leadership and team building training.

Lots of learning points. But I myself started walking. I started to like walking and hiking. May not be with huge packs on the back but still with a small backpack, with a few friends.

You try it once. Dont tell me I drove you to addiction.
Cheers!!

----
World is still not enough.

steven_ber · Jul 15th, 2005, 02:45

OK, lets try again.....

Aristocat and 2 other 'members' who have posted on this thread are the same person, even if they disagree with themselves...

But, no harm done.

agni5454 · Jul 15th, 2005, 03:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by steven_ber

OK, lets try again.....

Aristocat and 2 other 'members' who have posted on this thread are the same person, even if they disagree with themselves...

But, no harm done.

can you give us the names of those two "members" so that i can promptly add them to my ignore list?

Chances are if a person has multiple IDs on ONE site, they are trolling.

Dr Funkenstein · Jul 15th, 2005, 03:16

I've never trekked yet but it's top of my list of stuff to do on my next trip. I wasn't really up to it physically last time I was in India (and this is possibly still the case - we'll see) but one look at the glacier you can see from the Rohtang Pass told me that I really MUST get a bit closer to the mountains if it's at all possible.

There's something other-worldly about the Himalayas that I've never really experienced anywhere else. Rob's post made me feel nostalgic for something I've never even experienced. How's that work, then?

snowcrab · Jul 15th, 2005, 03:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by steven_ber

OK, lets try again.....

Aristocat and 2 other 'members' who have posted on this thread are the same person, even if they disagree with themselves...

But, no harm done.

Have to be a little slicker than use the same DNS for every posting. Good work mods.

skell · Jul 15th, 2005, 03:20

Some people must like the sound of their own "voice" so much that being one person isn't enough. Or perhaps he's practicing for the debate team.

Rob_The_Pom · Jul 15th, 2005, 03:32

Someone arguing with themselves? What a silly thing to do!

DrF, I reckon waking up in the morning in somewhere like Kalpa, where the first thing you see is the Kinnaur Kailash range is just as fabulous....
And the view from there is close!

Now I'm making myself feel whistful and nostalgic....

(PS I reckon the triple troll is fairly obvious (at least 2 of them anyway), but I'm keeping my mouth closed).

docgirl2005 · Jul 15th, 2005, 03:41

Ohhh I just figured it out myself...yea I only notice one other suspicious member.....Goodness I am so slow today..

LoL...OK all this talk about trekking has piqued my interest... I will start slow, maybe a nice walk at my local state park..yea.. Fresh air sounds so appealing right now...Tata

Charlene DD · Jul 15th, 2005, 04:51

these extra id's??

all too confusing for an internet virgin like me.

Jul 15th, 2005, 00:46	#62
Rob_The_Pom offcourse essentric Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seoul, South Korea Posts: 1,299	S'okay, DocGirl! The words to quote are just cool. As are his words to Jerusalem, social commentary in a hymn, now there's clever stuff! Anyway I'm again. I'm just puzzled how someone can get rather stressed about trekking? Ah well... __________________ There is no God but Dawkins and Hitchens is his prophet.

Jul 15th, 2005, 03:16	#70
Dr Funkenstein Joolay !!! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Manali, Himachal Pradesh Posts: 854	I've never trekked yet but it's top of my list of stuff to do on my next trip. I wasn't really up to it physically last time I was in India (and this is possibly still the case - we'll see) but one look at the glacier you can see from the Rohtang Pass told me that I really MUST get a bit closer to the mountains if it's at all possible. There's something other-worldly about the Himalayas that I've never really experienced anywhere else. Rob's post made me feel nostalgic for something I've never even experienced. How's that work, then? __________________ Out There Somewhere : My Travel Blog.

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Jul 15th, 2005, 01:22	#64
kaushiks Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: don't live anymore Posts: 446	Yeah, all those techniques are very necessary after a certain height, no doubts. 30ft or may be 20ft don't know. However, if your qualified rafting guide asks amatuers to jump and promises it is safe, you can imagine. Thats the kind of height, it is. Not the ones sailors jump from with training. Infact, most of us, jumping from any height into some river would be quiet irrational and not to be done. It becomes rational in this case, because a professional tells you it is totally safe and explains why and encourages you to jump. Any risk and he will be lynched by everybody around.

Jul 15th, 2005, 02:00	#66
trekker2 Posts: n/a	Those who think they understand may have misunderstood.

Jul 15th, 2005, 02:33	#67
webtraveller Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 191	You have to appreciate impact of the first post of Aristocat. 65 replies in just little more than 24 hours. Keeping it aside, Question to Aristocat. "Why do people watch television for extented times? specially, the couch potatos?, They dont get any exercise, build up fat, increase cholesterol, get heart attack. And still they prefer to be couch potatoes than just go out for jogging, walking etc. Ask them, they will tell it is better way than jogging, walking or even trekking. So, it is purely individual tastes and approaches. I would like to narrate you a small incident. When I was back in India, the company where I used to work conducted a leadership training in Madikeri, Coorg, Western Karnataka. We left in the evening to reach Madikeri by morning to the resort where we have to stay. About 10 Km away from the resort, the bus had a breakdown. And the driver informed us that the we are just a few kms away from the resort (he did not give the exact distance). He told, the assisstant has to go to Madikeri by some means and get help. It may take any where between 4 to 5 hours to get the bus in shape. The time was 5.00 am in the morning. And if we are stuck for 5 hours just in the bus waiting for help, it may well become 10am. The guide and training lead suggested few options with possible consequences. 1. Stay there. We may have to wait until almost mid morning without coffee, breakfast. we were already tired by the long journey. Needed a bath also. 2. Walk the distance. Dont know the exact distance but a few kms. Though it was a cold morning, we could walk off in an hour or so. But we would be getting a good bath, coffee, breakfast. So we started off. Some people took their entire baggage. I myself was a great hater of walking, now has to hike for some time. So a few of us took what is essential like a pair of cloths, toothbrush etc in a small backpack. We headed to the resort. It was all the 10 Kilometers, all the exersion, about 3 hours. Everybody was cursing after sometime in the beginning. But The last two hours were the highlight. We became kind of accustomed to the walking (hiking). Started enjoying the morning, chatting, joking, singing, helping (those who carried huge packs). That was really good. We reached by 8.30am. The bus came by 8.40am. Just 10 mins after we reached. But still we thought it was the best. That day, near the camp fire, Guide cum Trainging Lead announced that, the whole morning affair was a setup. They planned it such a way that, the bus driver will announce breakdown just 10 Kms away etc. The bus was perfectly alright. Part of the leadership and team building training. Lots of learning points. But I myself started walking. I started to like walking and hiking. May not be with huge packs on the back but still with a small backpack, with a few friends. You try it once. Dont tell me I drove you to addiction. Cheers!! ---- World is still not enough.

Jul 15th, 2005, 02:45	#68
steven_ber Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: London, England. Posts: 9,574	OK, lets try again..... Aristocat and 2 other 'members' who have posted on this thread are the same person, even if they disagree with themselves... But, no harm done.

Jul 15th, 2005, 03:20	#72
skell Maha Guru Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: The OC Posts: 975	Some people must like the sound of their own "voice" so much that being one person isn't enough. Or perhaps he's practicing for the debate team.

Jul 15th, 2005, 03:32	#73
Rob_The_Pom offcourse essentric Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seoul, South Korea Posts: 1,299	Someone arguing with themselves? What a silly thing to do! DrF, I reckon waking up in the morning in somewhere like Kalpa, where the first thing you see is the Kinnaur Kailash range is just as fabulous.... And the view from there is close! Now I'm making myself feel whistful and nostalgic.... (PS I reckon the triple troll is fairly obvious (at least 2 of them anyway), but I'm keeping my mouth closed).

Jul 15th, 2005, 03:41	#74
docgirl2005 Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: usa Posts: 443	Ohhh I just figured it out myself...yea I only notice one other suspicious member.....Goodness I am so slow today.. LoL...OK all this talk about trekking has piqued my interest... I will start slow, maybe a nice walk at my local state park..yea.. Fresh air sounds so appealing right now...Tata

Jul 15th, 2005, 04:51	#75
Charlene DD Account Closed Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Essex, UK. Posts: 13	these extra id's?? all too confusing for an internet virgin like me.

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