No sense!

iwanttogoback · Jul 14th, 2005, 20:25

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I must have seen Kick Boxer 2 with Jean Claude Van Dame some twenty times but it doesnt make it a good movie.

oh i don't watch it because it's a good movie. perhaps i just watch it because it's on.

rab · Jul 14th, 2005, 20:38

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Carrying a pack or not, I can't think of anything better than rising early on a cold morning, and sitting (or standing) with a nice cup of tea watching the first rays of the sun hitting the top of an enormous mountain or beautiful valley.

Almost as wonderful as that is the sound, not an engine starting or a door slamming, just your own breathing, maybe a bird calling and the sound of a river flowing.

There are few places on Earth where we can find real peace; trekking in the mountains is one such place...

Can't agree on the "nice cup of tea" sentiment (yuk!!!) but love Rob the Pom's post!

Aristocat · Jul 14th, 2005, 21:18

EDIT NOTE - this individual post was started as a new thread, I have merged it into this thread, there is no point in having 2 threads on the same subject. - steven_ber.
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Seem to have ruffled quite a few feathers by just wanting to know what one gets by lugging a heavy backpack over steep paths. From being accused of posting negative comments to being a troll to comments about my education. But nobody seems to have come forward with a very convincing reply. I have been asked here to “try it once”, the very words I was once asked in a bar by a dope dealer. I also fail to understand the pleasure derived by smoking dried leaves rolled in paper or by wearing a coat made from the skins of slaughtered animals. Would those also be considered negative comments? This not being the appropriate forum, I did not care to post them here but I do feel similarly about those, and some other, issues. If posting such queries on such a forum makes me a troll, then where do I look for answers? No ‘matured IMers’ put in any thoughtful feedback on what I say is senseless. Besides, one can only explain what one has thoroughly understood. No, I have no reason to be angry at any trekker/s as has been suggested and if I have been crass, then best to ignore rather than reply. And a last push to the summit may be just that…the last. There are many places one can find peace but the best place is within oneself. One treks and climbs to challenge one’s limit and to see how far one can go but if it kills you then you never know, do you? And if it doesn’t then when do you know that you have reached your limit? Can anybody tell me why it is done? And does my education really matter?

goangoangone · Jul 14th, 2005, 21:32

All goes for a bit of healthy debate

Personally, I don't fancy lugging heavy items up mountains either, but everyone to their own. I suspect the idea is to go to places that are inaccessible by transport and enjoy the open air and scenery.

Jul 14th, 2005, 21:49

The proof of the pudding is in the eating. Unless you experience a trek, you will never know. And treat it exactly as such. An experience. Either bad, or good. If bad, then do not go on any more treks. If good, then enjoy going on more treks. The beauty of trekking is that there will always be one to suit your taste, your ability and your budget. And there are plenty of agencies who organise treks and arrange guides. You are sure to find one in your town. Start by taking a walk in the park and then move on to harder stuff. Find out for yourself. Enjoy!!!
And with due apologies, I take back my comment on education.

steven_ber · Jul 14th, 2005, 21:54

I've never understood why so many people love trekking, but that’s because it just doesn't appeal to me, the places people trek to appeal to me, but I wouldn't enjoy myself if I had to carry a large backpack and set up a tent every night.

I asked a friend why he enjoyed trekking, after his replies I said "it sounds OK, but it's just not my kind of thing", he then asked me why I loved India and guess what, he said "it sounds OK, but it's just not his kind of thing".

Rob_The_Pom · Jul 14th, 2005, 21:57

I stand by my earlier post on the subject, which Rab has seconded above (except the bit about the cup of tea), as full justification as to why trekking is fantastic.

If you don't fancy giving trekking a pop, fine, your choice, but don't castigate those who have actually bothered to TRY it (and loved it) as someway deficient.

As goangoangone and Steven_Ber say, to each their own. We all have different tastes and preferences, loves and loathes.
Most of us have issues with things that we think are stupid, but you might notice that they are rarely posted as an OP on IM (especially as someone's first post), or if they do they get told where to go.

kaushiks · Jul 14th, 2005, 21:59

When you come rafting from Devprayag to Rishikesh, right at the end at Neem, when the last rapid has passed by, there is a small cliff jump point. The height may be around 30ft or more. You wear your life jacket and jump. Nothing harmful can happen. However, if you have never jumped from a height, you might get scared. A lot of people go, stand, look down and come down walking. They know very well, the fear is irrational. The height is not so much to hurt you. You have a life jacket to prevent you from sinking. Everybody around does it and they don't even drink water. There are people and rafters waiting at the base cheering you but still many a person doesn't jump. I always wondered how they would feel, not being able to do something simple like that even though your rational mind tells you its ok.There are many such oppurtunities during trekking, where one comes over irrational fears and blocked in limitations. You may buy that extra stock in Nasdaq that you couldn't risk though you always thought you should. Or tell that girl how you felt instead of carrying on being too scared to face reality. It is actually a terrible feeling to live these fears. Before taking such adventure activities you wouldn't even know you had such dumb limitations. You will know when you over come them. Just try it once. You will get addicted.

PS : However, I trek because it is fucking good.

docgirl2005 · Jul 14th, 2005, 22:07

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No, I have no reason to be angry at any trekker/s as has been suggested and if I have been crass, then best to ignore rather than reply.

I apologize for saying you are crass. Crass as defined by the Merriam-Webster Dictionary means "having or indicating such grossness of mind as precludes delicacy and discrimination".. you were certainy not crass.

You must understand a little about this site, Indiamike is a cool easygoing forum. Usually newcomers will introduce themselves and ease in. This being your first post, i found this first post a bit odd I guess. So I assumed that you might have had a "beef" with some trekkers and needed to vent here. Again its good to know you arent hating on anyone and simply want an answer. I suspect this being your first thread, people werent sure of the seriousness of your question... All too often, when newbies post their first with such a I guess "controversial thread"...people tend to assume its a troll. Had you been around more, I am sure the question wouldnt be suspected as a troll.

Again sorry for saying you were crass, I really didnt mean it. If theres any place on the net, where I would feel no shame to apologize its here on Indiamike. Because I think its the best site out there...and some of the best people too..no joke..believe me I have been burned on other sites...lol..

Anyways I hope someone can answer that for you. I personally am not a trekky type..lol..."Hello Taj Hotel, please book me a room with a view of the pool..." thanks..lol

Rob_The_Pom · Jul 14th, 2005, 22:10

Completely off-topic, but I love your favourite quote Docgirl!

Just wanted to let you know!

Cheers

RTP

docgirl2005 · Jul 14th, 2005, 22:21

Hey RTP, how is my reply to the OP off topic? I called him crass and after realizing his true intentions/my mistake I apologized. Since the original poster was wondering why he ruffled a few feathers, I thought I just give my reason for my first post and how intros are usually made for newbies.. I dont see how this is off topic?

It seemed to me that not only did he want an answer for his trekking question but also about why feathers were ruffled in the first place.

Oh well...thanks for shooting me down..

Tata..

kaushiks · Jul 14th, 2005, 22:25

LOL. RTP was saying his appreciation of your qoute of William Blake was off-topic. Not to worry, it happens in virtual world

.

steven_ber · Jul 14th, 2005, 22:29

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Originally Posted by docgirl2005

Hey RTP, how is my reply to the OP off topic? I called him crass and after realizing his true intentions/my mistake I apologized. Since the original poster was wondering why he ruffled a few feathers, I thought I just give my reason for my first post and how intros are usually made for newbies.. I dont see how this is off topic?

It seemed to me that not only did he want an answer for his trekking question but also about why feathers were ruffled in the first place.

Oh well...thanks for shooting me down..

Tata..

Rob was saying that his own reply was off-topic.

Aristocat has ruffled his own feathers more than anyone else has.

lotus blossom · Jul 14th, 2005, 22:40

ah, but look where the troll has taken us, to this place of song and music!

always look for the silver lining...

docgirl2005 · Jul 14th, 2005, 23:00

Ohhhhhhhhh...Oops

Sorry I misunderstood guys...

Hehe..

Sorry RTP...guess I read it wrong..my bad my bad

Take care!

Jul 14th, 2005, 21:18	#48
Aristocat Account Closed Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 104	Ruffled feathers EDIT NOTE - this individual post was started as a new thread, I have merged it into this thread, there is no point in having 2 threads on the same subject. - steven_ber. -------------------------------------------------- Seem to have ruffled quite a few feathers by just wanting to know what one gets by lugging a heavy backpack over steep paths. From being accused of posting negative comments to being a troll to comments about my education. But nobody seems to have come forward with a very convincing reply. I have been asked here to “try it once”, the very words I was once asked in a bar by a dope dealer. I also fail to understand the pleasure derived by smoking dried leaves rolled in paper or by wearing a coat made from the skins of slaughtered animals. Would those also be considered negative comments? This not being the appropriate forum, I did not care to post them here but I do feel similarly about those, and some other, issues. If posting such queries on such a forum makes me a troll, then where do I look for answers? No ‘matured IMers’ put in any thoughtful feedback on what I say is senseless. Besides, one can only explain what one has thoroughly understood. No, I have no reason to be angry at any trekker/s as has been suggested and if I have been crass, then best to ignore rather than reply. And a last push to the summit may be just that…the last. There are many places one can find peace but the best place is within oneself. One treks and climbs to challenge one’s limit and to see how far one can go but if it kills you then you never know, do you? And if it doesn’t then when do you know that you have reached your limit? Can anybody tell me why it is done? And does my education really matter?

Jul 14th, 2005, 21:32	#49
goangoangone Monsoon Loon Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Goa Posts: 1,535	All goes for a bit of healthy debate Personally, I don't fancy lugging heavy items up mountains either, but everyone to their own. I suspect the idea is to go to places that are inaccessible by transport and enjoy the open air and scenery. __________________ GoanGoan......here Last edited by goangoangone : Jul 14th, 2005 at 21:33. Reason: spelin'

Jul 14th, 2005, 21:49	#50
trekker2 Posts: n/a	Aristocat... The proof of the pudding is in the eating. Unless you experience a trek, you will never know. And treat it exactly as such. An experience. Either bad, or good. If bad, then do not go on any more treks. If good, then enjoy going on more treks. The beauty of trekking is that there will always be one to suit your taste, your ability and your budget. And there are plenty of agencies who organise treks and arrange guides. You are sure to find one in your town. Start by taking a walk in the park and then move on to harder stuff. Find out for yourself. Enjoy!!! And with due apologies, I take back my comment on education.

Jul 14th, 2005, 21:54	#51
steven_ber Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: London, England. Posts: 9,574	I've never understood why so many people love trekking, but that’s because it just doesn't appeal to me, the places people trek to appeal to me, but I wouldn't enjoy myself if I had to carry a large backpack and set up a tent every night. I asked a friend why he enjoyed trekking, after his replies I said "it sounds OK, but it's just not my kind of thing", he then asked me why I loved India and guess what, he said "it sounds OK, but it's just not his kind of thing". __________________ . How to get helpful replies to your transport/Itinerary questions. Train information.

Jul 14th, 2005, 21:57	#52
Rob_The_Pom offcourse essentric Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seoul, South Korea Posts: 1,299	I stand by my earlier post on the subject, which Rab has seconded above (except the bit about the cup of tea), as full justification as to why trekking is fantastic. If you don't fancy giving trekking a pop, fine, your choice, but don't castigate those who have actually bothered to TRY it (and loved it) as someway deficient. As goangoangone and Steven_Ber say, to each their own. We all have different tastes and preferences, loves and loathes. Most of us have issues with things that we think are stupid, but you might notice that they are rarely posted as an OP on IM (especially as someone's first post), or if they do they get told where to go. __________________ There is no God but Dawkins and Hitchens is his prophet.

Jul 14th, 2005, 21:59	#53
kaushiks Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: don't live anymore Posts: 446	When you come rafting from Devprayag to Rishikesh, right at the end at Neem, when the last rapid has passed by, there is a small cliff jump point. The height may be around 30ft or more. You wear your life jacket and jump. Nothing harmful can happen. However, if you have never jumped from a height, you might get scared. A lot of people go, stand, look down and come down walking. They know very well, the fear is irrational. The height is not so much to hurt you. You have a life jacket to prevent you from sinking. Everybody around does it and they don't even drink water. There are people and rafters waiting at the base cheering you but still many a person doesn't jump. I always wondered how they would feel, not being able to do something simple like that even though your rational mind tells you its ok.There are many such oppurtunities during trekking, where one comes over irrational fears and blocked in limitations. You may buy that extra stock in Nasdaq that you couldn't risk though you always thought you should. Or tell that girl how you felt instead of carrying on being too scared to face reality. It is actually a terrible feeling to live these fears. Before taking such adventure activities you wouldn't even know you had such dumb limitations. You will know when you over come them. Just try it once. You will get addicted. PS : However, I trek because it is fucking good.

Jul 14th, 2005, 22:10	#55
Rob_The_Pom offcourse essentric Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seoul, South Korea Posts: 1,299	Completely off-topic, but I love your favourite quote Docgirl! Just wanted to let you know! Cheers RTP

Jul 14th, 2005, 22:21	#56
docgirl2005 Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: usa Posts: 443	Hey RTP, how is my reply to the OP off topic? I called him crass and after realizing his true intentions/my mistake I apologized. Since the original poster was wondering why he ruffled a few feathers, I thought I just give my reason for my first post and how intros are usually made for newbies.. I dont see how this is off topic? It seemed to me that not only did he want an answer for his trekking question but also about why feathers were ruffled in the first place. Oh well...thanks for shooting me down.. Tata..

Jul 14th, 2005, 22:25	#57
kaushiks Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: don't live anymore Posts: 446	LOL. RTP was saying his appreciation of your qoute of William Blake was off-topic. Not to worry, it happens in virtual world .

Jul 14th, 2005, 22:40	#59
lotus blossom re-member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: revolving around the sun standing still Posts: 1,892	ah, but look where the troll has taken us, to this place of song and music! always look for the silver lining... __________________ Not all who wander are lost

Jul 14th, 2005, 23:00	#60
docgirl2005 Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: usa Posts: 443	Oops Ohhhhhhhhh...Oops Sorry I misunderstood guys... Hehe.. Sorry RTP...guess I read it wrong..my bad my bad Take care!

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